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Files in Category:Alexej von Jawlensky

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Paintings by this painter are protected by copyright in the United States unless they were published before 1923. These paintings were made after 1922, "circa 1922" or at an unknown date, so they might not be in the public domain in the United States.

Circa 1922
Circa 1925
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Circa 1930
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Stefan4 (talk) 14:06, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Keep Keep all. I find it quite incredible how one person can destroy many people's work of many years without any pressing need. I hope you are quite pleased with yourself. As long as the copyright owners don't threaten Wikimedia, a warning tag would be totally enough. --FA2010 (talk) 14:09, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm just as unhappy about the lack of the w:rule of the shorter term in the United States as you. Luckily, we do at least have wikilivres:User:Transfer from Wikimedia Commons bot which uploads these images to Canada where the paintings are in the public domain. However, there is often no evidence of permission from the one who took the photos of the paintings, which might be a problem per COM:PDARTREUSE#Canada, and I don't know how many people there are who know about the Canadian server. --Stefan4 (talk) 14:28, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I asked about that on Wikilivres:Community_Portal and the small consensus was that they're willing to accept PD-Art images despite the unclear state of the law in Canada. Dcoetzee (talk) 11:37, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You should at least take the time to add proper undelete categories (undelete in...) to this deletion request if you are so super-knowledgeable in US copyright. Not taking this time I consider a gross violation of good conduct. --FA2010 (talk) 14:12, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki:VisualFileChange.js sorts all files alphabetically. Once the deletion requests have been created, I go through the list and sort the paintings by year. It seems that you commented on the deletion discussion before I had had the time to sort the files. --Stefan4 (talk) 14:28, 17 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Delete All of Alexej's works published 1923 or later were first published in Germany. In that country works of artists who died 1926 or later that were published 1923 or later had their US copyrights restored. All works will be transferred to Wikilivres. I admonish FA2010 for continued personal attacks against Stefan4, who is only enforcing our licensing policy in compliance with US law. It is our elected officials who are to blame for how far copyright law has departed from the realm of common sense. Dcoetzee (talk) 11:37, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I take this personally (since I have spend many many hours of my free time uploading art from a multitude of sources), and I think the attacks are rightly targeted personally at you two. These images haven't made any trouble for many years now, and the law situation hasn't change. There's a difference between enforcing policy because uploaders or external users could be harmed by wrong legal information, or enforcing policy just for the fun of it. Again: there's no pressing need. Where are the Jawlensky heirs that have enforced their rights? As long as they don't do that, it's enough to clearly tag the images, and not necessary at all to delete them. --FA2010 (talk) 16:36, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Even if content reusers could be adequately protected by warnings not to use these files in the United States, the uploaders are still liable for their uploaded files under the DMCA, and could be subject to lawsuits by the copyright holders even after the files are removed by their request. I don't want you or other affected uploaders to be held liable for our continued distribution of these works. Dcoetzee (talk) 01:20, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know if it would be possible to find out who you are, so it may or may not be possible to sue you. A pseudonym like "FA2010" doesn't provide much identification, but you might have posted more information somewhere else. It would be too bad if someone would decide to sue you for copyright infringement. Besides, if the WMF receives multiple DMCA takedown requests for files uploaded by you, then I think that the law says that you may have to be blocked, which would also be bad. I think that it is better if deletion requests are handled sooner rather than later so that they occur before any takedown requests would be sent. I also think that it is better if files are sorted correctly by undeletion years and with a request to upload the images to Canada (where they can stay for as long as the Canadian copyright law doesn't change). If other people were to nominate the files for deletion in a few years, they might not think of adding those extra categories. --Stefan4 (talk) 09:49, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Pre-1923 works kept, rest deleted. FASTILY (TALK) 06:44, 25 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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