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::We seem to have more than two of these statues: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:MediaSearch&search=deepcategory%3A%22Statues_of_the_Lion_of_Saint_Mark%22+-deepcategory%3A%22Lion_of_Venice_%28ancient_bronze_statue%29%22&type=image] [[User:Enhancing999|Enhancing999]] ([[User talk:Enhancing999|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:34, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
::We seem to have more than two of these statues: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:MediaSearch&search=deepcategory%3A%22Statues_of_the_Lion_of_Saint_Mark%22+-deepcategory%3A%22Lion_of_Venice_%28ancient_bronze_statue%29%22&type=image] [[User:Enhancing999|Enhancing999]] ([[User talk:Enhancing999|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:34, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
:::* yeah, & that's the problem. this is a specific object. usually it's in st. mark's square venice, but under napoleon 1 it was taken/looted & put on this fountain in paris for a while (among all the other plunder he stole from venice & elsewhere... ). so the invalides fountain is a subcat of ''the statute'' BUT NOT a subcat of its location in venice... [[User:Lx 121|Lx 121]] ([[User talk:Lx 121|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
:::* yeah, & that's the problem. this is a specific object. usually it's in st. mark's square venice, but under napoleon 1 it was taken/looted & put on this fountain in paris for a while (among all the other plunder he stole from venice & elsewhere... ). so the invalides fountain is a subcat of ''the statute'' BUT NOT a subcat of its location in venice... [[User:Lx 121|Lx 121]] ([[User talk:Lx 121|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
:::** also, technically, it is debatable whether the statue is "properly" of the lion of st. mark, as the core of the sculpture seems to be from pre-christian classical antiquity. it was later repurposed into a st. mark's lion (& patched up repeatedly) [[User:Lx 121|Lx 121]] ([[User talk:Lx 121|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:40, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
:::** also, technically, it is debatable whether the statue is "properly" of the lion of st. mark, as the core of the sculpture seems to be from pre-christian classical antiquity. it was later repurposed into a st. mark's lion (& patched up repeatedly) [[User:Lx 121|Lx 121]] ([[User talk:Lx 121|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 20:40, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
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already there is c:Lion of Venice, Piazzetta San Marco MenkinAlRire (talk) 09:47, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This seems to be for a class, whereas Category:Lion of Venice, Piazzetta San Marco is for the one in Venice. Enhancing999 (talk) 09:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Possibly there is some overlap with Category:Statues of the Lion of Saint Mark
or Category:Fontaine des Invalides (a current subcategory of Category:Lion of Venice (ancient bronze statue)) should go elsewhere. Enhancing999 (talk) 10:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Keep - clearly the fontaine des invalides is a subset of the larger history of the same sculpture. open to a rename for the meta-category; otherwise, i'm not sure how to tie the 2 cats together? invalides doesn't fit as a sub-cat of the lion statue "in situ" in venice. Lx 121 (talk) 06:21, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It could go directly somewhere in   Category:Statues of the Lion of Saint Mark   or   Category:Statues of the Lion of Saint Mark by country.
We seem to have more than two of these statues: [1] Enhancing999 (talk) 14:34, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • yeah, & that's the problem. this is a specific object. usually it's in st. mark's square venice, but under napoleon 1 it was taken/looted & put on this fountain in paris for a while (among all the other plunder he stole from venice & elsewhere... ). so the invalides fountain is a subcat of the statute BUT NOT a subcat of its location in venice... Lx 121 (talk) 20:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • also,; technically, it is debatable whether the statue is "properly" of the lion of st. mark, as the core of the sculpture seems to be from pre-christian classical antiquity. it was later repurposed into a st. mark's lion stature(& patched up repeatedly) Lx 121 (talk) 20:40, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]