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Files in Category:Fictional flags of Indonesia

Out of COM:SCOPE user-generated flags; violation of COM:NOTHOST, COM:SELFIE, COM:EV. A realistic educational purpose is a policy requirement for all Commons files. All files with no such purpose must be deleted: "Wikimedia Commons is not your personal free web host".

GPinkerton (talk) 18:44, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

As the designer of the first file and who made the category, I'm not against the nom. Bennylin (yes?) 16:00, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: Per nomination - Thanks everyone for participating and if you disagree with this decision please take it to Commons:Undeletion requests - unless there is a tech issue. Thanks for assuming good faith and happy new year!. --Missvain (talk) 19:40, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Files in Category:Fictional flags of Indonesia

Per the note in the main category there are no provincial flags of Indonesia. Making these fictional and/or completely fake. The status' of the flags are also extremely questionable since at least some of them come from websites with copyright notices. Whereas others are licensed as "own work" when in fact they are based on provincial shields. To make matters worse according to Template:PD-IDGov "There shall be no infringement of Copyright for: Publication, Distribution, Communication, and/or Reproduction of State emblems and national anthem in accordance with their original nature" and it's really clear if turning a State shield into a State flag would be in accordance with their original nature or not. I'd argue not since again, a lot of these are fake and/or based derivatives of derivatives that appear to be copyrighted to begin with. So the images should be deleted as OOS. As well as potentially COPYVIO. The main reason here being that it's pretty likely they are COPYVIO though.

Adamant1 (talk) 06:45, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indonesian provincial flag is really in use. See links below for evidence.

- https://regional.kompas.com/read/2020/11/25/17362011/jateng-jadi-provinsi-paling-informatif-ganjar-beberkan-kunci-suksesnya

- https://papua.inews.id/berita/provinsi-termuda-bendera-dan-lambang-pemprov-papua-barat-daya-diserahkan-kepada-mendagri

- https://seputarpapua.com/view/bendera-kontingen-npc-dikibarkan-di-stadion-mandala-jayapura.html

Ibrahim Muizzuddin (talk) 08:04, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ibrahim Muizzuddin: From what I understand there's only like 2 or 3 provinces that have official flags. The question with your evidence is if those particular flags were original or someone created them after they were uploaded to internet. If it's the later then they would still technically be fake, despite someone using them IRL. There's still the potential COPYVIO issues regardless anyway though. --Adamant1 (talk) 08:08, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete English wikipedia have removed many provincial flag from its infobox years ago, if you guys check any provincial website like this https://www.riau.go.id/ you can see the emblem but the flag are nowhere to be seen.

and also, why does so many of these flag suddenly becomes "own work" with creative commons license when it should be PD-IDGov if they're truly come from official sources?

If you guys want to delete those flags, there are others not mentioned yet in the above nomination :

File:Flag_of_Surabaya_City.png

File:Flag_of_Central_Papua_Province.svg

File:Flag of Highland Papua.svg

File:Flag_of_South_Papua_Province.svg

File:Flag_of_Tegal_City.png

File:Flag_of_Pekalongan_City.png

File:Flag_of_Southwest_Papua.svg

File:Flag of Batu City.png

File:Flag of Salatiga City.png

File:Flag of Madiun City.png

File:Flag of Kediri City.png

File:Flag of Magelang City.png

File:Flag of Mojokerto City.png

File:Flag_of_Semarang_City.png

File:Flag of Yogyakarta City.png

and everything in Category:Flags_of_cities_of_Indonesia

Afif Brika1 (talk) 12:04, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment There have been reports of ceremonial flags of provinces used by the governors since at least 2000. [1] [2]

For instance, here's a photo of the ceremonial Jakarta flag. [3] SVG-image-maker (talk) 14:42, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For the second link I meant [4] SVG-image-maker (talk) 14:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::{{Comment}} There have been reports of ceremonial flags of provinces used by the governors since at least 2000. [https://fotw.info/flags/id-prov.html] [https://fotw.info]
 ::For instance, here's a photo of the ceremonial Jakarta flag. [https://web.archive.org/web/20170225092946/https://metro.sindonews.com/read/1182997/171/wow-tunjangan-gubernur-dki-capai-rp3234-miliar-1487929191] [[User:SVG-image-maker|SVG-image-maker]] ([[User talk:SVG-image-maker|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:42, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
+:::For the second link I meant [https://www.fotw.info/flags/id-ba.html] [[User:SVG-image-maker|SVG-image-maker]] ([[User talk:SVG-image-maker|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 14:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

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