Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Numberguy6: Difference between revisions

*Your answer to Q26 shows that you have no experience with AfD at all and is very concerning. How can you mark the AfD as no consensus or de facto keep the article if the subject fails to meet significant coverage? Person B is blindly stating that the article should be kept without any policy justification. You should delete the article as there is no in-depth coverage, as Person B also acknowledges, or at least relist the AfD so that someone else can come and cast their vote. [[User:Grabup|<span style="color:blue;">Grab</span><span style="color:red; font-size:larger;">Up</span>]] - [[User talk:Grabup|<span style="color:green;">Talk</span>]] 17:14, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

*:As I've seen on AfD, [[WP:NOTDATABASE]] is a strong policy-based argument and it's a reason why IMdB is not considered significant coverage, so a no-consensus close here would be rather peculiar. [[User:Conyo14|Conyo14]] ([[User talk:Conyo14|talk]]) 18:23, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

*:{{ping|Grabup}} [[WP:IAR]] ''is'' a policy. Frankly, I agree with person B: person A is just blindly quoting policy even when in this case it is clear it would be better to keep the article, since it is informative; person B is being pragmatic, and instead of quoting policy asking: what is better for readers? But Numberguy6 was supposed to answer the question, not me, and they did. And their answer was, in my opinion, a reasonable, satisfactory compromise. [[User:Cremastra|Cremastra]] ([[User talk:Cremastra|talk]]) 18:33, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

*::@[[User:Cremastra|Cremastra]]: So everyone should use that policy and save articles even they don’t meet [[WP:GNG]], [[WP:SIGCOV]]? [[User:Grabup|<span style="color:blue;">Grab</span><span style="color:red; font-size:larger;">Up</span>]] - [[User talk:Grabup|<span style="color:green;">Talk</span>]] 18:39, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

*:::::You said, “then deleting it would be a disservice to the project.” In that case, draftifying is a favorable option. At the very least, he should relist the AfD for more votes and opinions. He should not close the AfD during such a contentious time.<ins> For example, in a running [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lika O|AfD]], there are sources available, but they are promotional and don’t meet SIGCOV, GNG. On its [[Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Lika O|talk page]], a user is saying it should not be deleted because she is a good actress. Should you also support them?</ins> [[User:Grabup|<span style="color:blue;">Grab</span><span style="color:red; font-size:larger;">Up</span>]] - [[User talk:Grabup|<span style="color:green;">Talk</span>]] 19:07, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

*::Blindly quoting IAR is not any better than blindly quoting other policies, and can often end up as some variation of [[WP:ILIKEIT]]. Also, guessing "the spirit" of a policy (when it goes against its actual wording) can be highly subjective, especially since editors who worked on establishing this policy might not even all have had the same spirit in mind.<br>In the case of this specific example, even if there are several databases each giving different facts about the subject, the lack of in-depth sources placing these individual facts in context means that the article likely fails [[WP:INDISCRIMINATE]]. [[User:Chaotic Enby|<span style="color:#8a7500">Chaotıċ <span style="display:inline-flex;rotate:30deg;color:#9e5cb1">Enby</span></span>]] ([[User talk:Chaotic Enby|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Chaotic Enby|contribs]]) 19:29, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

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