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Some punks are ''anti-fashion'', arguing that punk should be defined by music or ideology. This is most common in the post-1980s US [[hardcore punk]] scene, where members of the subculture often dressed in plain T-shirts and jeans, rather than the more elaborate outfits and spiked, dyed hair of their British counterparts. Many groups adopt a look based on street clothes and [[working class]] outfits. Hardcore punk fans adopted a ''dressed-down'' style of [[T-shirt]]s, [[jeans]], [[combat boots]] or [[Sneakers (footwear)|sneakers]] and [[crewcut]]-style haircuts. Women in the hardcore scene typically wore army pants, band T-shirts, and hooded sweatshirts.<ref name="BrockmeierxDUO p. 12"/>
The style of the 1980s hardcore scene contrasted with the more provocative fashion styles of late 1970s punk rockers (elaborate [[punk hair|hairdos]], torn clothes, patches, safety pins, studs, spikes, etc.). [[Circle Jerks]] frontman [[Keith Morris]] described early hardcore fashion as "the...punk scene was basically based on English fashion. But we had nothing to do with that. [[Black Flag (band)|Black Flag]] and the Circle Jerks were so far from that. We looked like the kid who worked at the gas station or submarine shop."<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.citizinemag.com/music/music-0303_kmorris.htm |title=CITIZINE Interview - Circle Jerks' Keith Morris (Black Flag, Diabetes) |publisher=Citizinemag.com |date=2003-02-17 |accessdate=2011-12-04}}</ref> Henry Rollins echoes Morris' point, stating that for him getting dressed up meant putting on a black shirt and some dark pants; Rollins viewed an interest in fashion as being a distraction.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://m.complex.com/style/2013/04/29-things-you-didnt-know-about-punk-style/hardcore-punk |title=Hardcore punk of the '80s preferred simple, utilitarian style because it was better for moshing. — 29 Things You Didn't Know About Punk Style | Complex |publisher=M.complex.com |date= |accessdate=2014-05-20}}</ref> Jimmy Gestapo from Murphy's Law describes his own transition from dressing in a punk style (spiked hair and a [[bondage belt]]) to adopting a hardcore style (shaved head and boots) as being based on needing more functional clothing.<ref name="BrockmeierxDUO p. 12"/> A scholarly source states that "hardcore kids do not look like punks", since hardcore scene members wore basic clothing and short haircuts, in contrast to the "embellished leather jackets and pants" worn in the punk scene.<ref>{{cite news|url=https://www.duo.uio.no/bitstream/handle/10852/26264/BrockmeierxDUO.pdf?sequence=1 |title=Not Just Boys' Fun? |publisher=Duo.uio.no |page=12 |accessdate=2014-05-20}}</ref>
In contrast to Morris' and Rollins' views, one scholarly source claims that the standard hardcore punk clothing and styles included torn jeans, leather jackets, spiked armbands and dog collars and [[mohawk hairstyle]]s and DIY ornamentation of clothes with studs, painted band names, political statements, and patches.<ref>Lauraine Leblanc. ''Pretty in Punk: Girls' Gender Resistance in a Boys' Subculture''. Rutgers University Press, 1999. P. 52</ref> Another scholarly source describes the look that was common in the San Francisco hardcore scene as consisting of biker-style leather jackets, chains, studded wristbands, pierced noses and multiple piercings, painted or tattooed statements (e.g. an anarchy symbol) and hairstyles ranging from military-style haircuts dyed black or blonde, mohawks, and shaved heads.<ref>Skinheads: A Guide to an American Subculture. By Tiffini A. Travis, Perry Hardy. ABC-CLIO, 2012. P. 123 (section entitled "From San Francisco Hardcore Punks to Skinheads")</ref>
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Punks can come from any and all walks of life and economic classes. Compared to some alternative cultures, punk is much closer to being [[gender equality|gender equalist]] in terms of its ideology. Although the punk subculture is mostly [[Anti-racism|anti-racist]], it is vastly white (at least in predominantly-white areas, such as [[Los Angeles|L.A.]]).<ref name="ReferenceA">{{Cite journal | last1 = Traber | first1 = Daniel S. | last2 = | first2 = | year = 2001 | title = L. A.'s "White Minority": Punk and the Contradictions of Self-Marginalization | journal = Cultural Critique | volume = 48 | issue = Spring | pages = 30–64 | publisher = | jstor = 1354396 | doi = | url = | format = | accessdate = }}</ref> However, members of other groups (such as [[Black people|Blacks]], Latinos, and [[Asians]]) have also contributed to the development of the subculture.<ref name="ReferenceA"/> [[Substance abuse]] has sometimes been a part of the punk scene, with the notable exception of the [[straight edge]] movement. Violence has also sometimes appeared in the punk subculture, but has been opposed by some subsets of the subculture, such as the pacifist strain of [[anarcho-punk]].<ref name="LastName 1999">{{cite book | last = Sabin | first = Roger | title = Punk rock, so what? : the cultural legacy of punk | publisher = Routledge | location = London New York | year = 1999 | isbn = 978-0-415-17030-7 }}</ref>
[[File:924 Gilman Street (4).jpg|thumb|The graffiti-covered backstage area at the Gilman Street venue.]]
Punks often form a local scene, which can have as few as half a dozen members in a small town, or as many as thousands of members in a major city.<ref name="Grossman">{{cite news
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