Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of American films of 2023

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was draftify. Overall consensus is for the article to be moved to Draft namespace. The article is now located at Draft:List of American films of 2023. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 09:28, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This was moved as an AFC submission, but I moved it back, and just now, it was re-moved to become an article. This should just be moved back to draft space. Thing is, Draft:2023 in film isn't even moved.

If you look to Draft:2022 in film, it is is still a draft, and Draft:List of American films of 2022 was forcibly moved to draft space after a deletion discussion.

The page is too soon, despite another reviewer's insistence. Thus, I am putting this here to put the page back to draftspace, with the full backing of a discussion. Starzoner (talk) 01:22, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 02:39, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 02:40, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Appears to me to be a good faith, (and bar 2 IMDBs) well-sourced list of films currently slated for a 2023 release. Wikipedia works from reliable sources. The thrust of the 2022 discussion referenced by Starzoner appears to be that "things may change". Which, indeed, they may. And we are capable of making changes if & when those changes occur. Meanwhile we have what we always have; a topic which is notable, and reliable sources providing information useful to that topic. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:47, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Draftify as WP:TOOSOON Donaldd23 (talk) 02:55, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The nub of TOOSOON is "If sources do not exist, it is generally too soon for an article on that topic to be considered." Sources exist. It is not too soon. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:57, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok then, Draftify per WP:CRYSTAL Donaldd23 (talk) 12:18, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Draftify as premature per WP:CRYSTAL, especially if we do not have 2022-related articles in the mainspace. Furthermore, I have doubts about listing items that are technically plans for films. If filming is underway, it is reasonably likely for a film to be completed. Before that, though, there is too much uncertainty. 2023 is certainly too far out to have an actual list on its own. If something is truly underway and targeted for 2023, then perhaps any future list should append "and beyond", like "2021 and beyond" or "2022 and beyond", and eventually spin off a new year-list after an arbitrary number of films listed for that year. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 03:17, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Draftify or Delete: WP:CRYSTAL. Anything in the article would be speculation.   // Timothy :: talk  03:40, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Draftify per all the above. Everything on that list is currently an untitled film that may be made. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 08:35, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Draftify Per point 1 of WP:CRYSTALBALL, future stuff should only be included if "almost certain to take place". I doubt that any film more than two years away from intended release is 'almost certain', and this entire list definitely isn't. And that's before we even broach the subject of notability. -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 10:43, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Draftify — Far too soon. Foxnpichu (talk) 11:51, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Draftify or delete per TimothyBlue. Cbl62 (talk) 22:41, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete As only 2/10 films here have actual names, and as I said in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2022 in film (2nd nomination), who knows if most of these films occur? We also have projects from 2021 that will undoubtedly back up into '22 and '23 because of the pandemic, and these projects could easily bump up to '24 or '25 (and may not even get a greenlight if the studios decide they don't make sense any longer). And we have List of American films of 2022 on an indefinite salt, thus I would support an equal salt here. Nate • (chatter) 08:34, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete 3 year out film release timelines are notoriously unstable. Even without the Pandemic this would be the case, the Pandemic has made such issues even more pronounced.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:08, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.