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::::Nobody calls 1) Danes, 2) Swedes or 3) Norwegians ''nationalists'' because of their four (4!) standardized mutually intelligible [[Scandinavian languages]], yet I'll be called a nationalist for even trying to rectify some things on BCS (worry not, true "nationalists" consider me just the opposite of that). Like it or not, nationalism has always been a driving force of language differentiation, language and the idea of ''nation'' go hand in hand. Language, somewhere and sometimes, does serve as one's national/ethnic identity (we have that in [[First language]]). Ideally, all Earthlings would be speaking the same language, but somehow we never agreed whether that'd be Latin, French, English, Spanish, or... hm... Russian.
::::UC Berkeley's prof. Ronelle Alexander in his BCS grammar describes this "reality" (→[[WP:NPOV|neutrality]]) much better than we do: to all POV-pushers of "one language" vs. "multiple languages" he answers "the language is simultaneously one and more than one". Wikipedia should describe what is, as opposed to what should be, and that includes how things (languages) are called. We have different models for that, as shown above for two other continua. But let's start with Czech and Slovak, they're so similar that you'll be allowed to write your PhD thesis in Slovak at a Czech university. How do they deserve different treatment than B/C/S/…? [[User:Ponor|Ponor]] ([[User talk:Ponor|talk]]) 16:37, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
:::::Linguists do NOT consider Czech and Slovak to be one language because the differences between them are greater than the differences between the Serbo-Croatian varieties. [https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/czec1260 Czech and Slovak], [https://glottolog.org/resource/languoid/id/west2804 Serbian-Croatian-Bosnian]. It's subjective linguistic reality from the judgment of a wide variety of real linguists (plural and representing a substantial number over time), not any kind of "bias" being pushed by people with a political ax to grind. --[[User:TaivoLinguist|TaivoLinguist (Taivo)]] ([[User talk:TaivoLinguist|talk]]) 17:34, 30 May 2023 (UTC)