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:::::::::::Frankly, this is a bizarre idea. You're proposing to maintain a second Main Page which readers would have to click a link on the Main Page to get to, perhaps making it less likely they'll see those articles there than under "Latest news" on the Main Page. I don't get why, if it's important, we couldn't just put more leads on the Main Page, where they're more likely to be seen, which I would guess is your aim with this idea? Also, would the articles on the second Main Page be listed under "Latest news" in addition? [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 22:26, 5 June 2024 (UTC) |
:::::::::::Frankly, this is a bizarre idea. You're proposing to maintain a second Main Page which readers would have to click a link on the Main Page to get to, perhaps making it less likely they'll see those articles there than under "Latest news" on the Main Page. I don't get why, if it's important, we couldn't just put more leads on the Main Page, where they're more likely to be seen, which I would guess is your aim with this idea? Also, would the articles on the second Main Page be listed under "Latest news" in addition? [[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] ([[User talk:Heavy Water|talk]]) 22:26, 5 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::Yes they would also be on latest news. Idea would like an actual newspaper...there are multiple pages. I have no objection to placing it further down either if you want to though...@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 22:44, 5 June 2024 (UTC) |
::::::::::::Yes they would also be on latest news. Idea would like an actual newspaper...there are multiple pages. I have no objection to placing it further down either if you want to though...@[[User:Heavy Water|Heavy Water]] [[User:Me Da Wikipedian|Me Da Wikipedian]] ([[User talk:Me Da Wikipedian|talk]]) 22:44, 5 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:I really don't understand the rationale for this. Is there any other news site that does this or something like it? Am I missing some kind of best practice here? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 07:16, 6 June 2024 (UTC) |
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So 80% of the front page is now Виктор Пинчук / Viktor Pinchuk promoting himself and his publications without any conflict of interest being noted on any of the articles, and Wikinews is ok with this? Someone who isn't notable enough to have an article in any language of Wikipedia (see Wikidata:Viktor Pinchuk) gets to own Wikinews? What a joke this place is. 193.117.137.146 (talk) 09:42, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
Idea:Temporary extra page
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In rare cases, we have actually so much news that news disappear very quickly from the main page. Here is an idea for that. All news should stay for at least 2-3 days. If there are more than 5 published articles in the past 2-3 days, then the less recent articles should go on a second page. This would be linked to from the main page. Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 20:58, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting idea. At the moment the main page is built around the five leads. At the right hand side is a list of the latest twenty articles, including the five leads. So, would we have a second page with those fifteen articles that are no longer on the five leads? An alternative idea might be to increase the number of leads to perhaps twenty and have them all displayed in decreasing prominence? The German Wikinews main page has something like this, with capacity for up to fifty articles (I think). I am not sure if it is automated though. [24Cr][talk] 21:15, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- No, thats not what I'm saying at least. For example, the last 20 articles often streches back more than 3 months, those aren't really news. This would only be for the (rare) occurence where there is more than 5 articles published in a 2-3 day long period. Idea would be a second with anything not in the latest 5 but in the last 2-3 days.@Cromium Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 21:17, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, I see what you mean. So, for example at the moment we have seven articles from the last 3 days, and the oldest two of those would go onto a second page? [24Cr][talk] 21:36, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, exactly.@Cromium Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 21:36, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Me Da Wikipedian: I am not much good at code but feel free to start a subpage and play around with the layout. You'll probably need some new templates to match the five lead templates (although there are at least two unused ones around - one with a 6 and one without a number). [24Cr][talk] 12:31, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- I've made lead 9 and updated 6, does nothing for now. 7 and 8 are create protected, so I'll need help for those. 10 isn't needed...yet. I would need you to add a link on the Main Page, of course...working on a page 2 now... Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 20:28, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Cromium, now make an example Main Page 2 and 10 as well. Thoughts? Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 20:34, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Thank for unprotecting, I think Main Page 2 looks good now... Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 20:41, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Me Da Wikipedian: I've unprotected 7 and 8. I think there should be up to six leads, so they all look equal. At the moment lead 6 has prominence because it takes up double the width of the others. [24Cr][talk] 20:43, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- That could be said of lead 1 here too. If you still want I'll try to figure out how to change that. How is the rest of it. What would you think of adding a link to it somewhere on the Main Page, where and how?@Cromium Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 20:47, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, lead 1 has prominence because ordinarily it is the most recently reviewed article. I guess we could have six on the main page and six (or four) on the second page. However, then could we not have ten on the main page? I think we need input from others. I'll put it on the site notice. [24Cr][talk] 21:01, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know, for now I'm keeping as is. I think that the Main Page 2 could, pending approval, be put as a link on the Main Main Page (that sounds weird) in the current state, with minor issues like that to be worked out later@Cromium Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 21:07, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Frankly, this is a bizarre idea. You're proposing to maintain a second Main Page which readers would have to click a link on the Main Page to get to, perhaps making it less likely they'll see those articles there than under "Latest news" on the Main Page. I don't get why, if it's important, we couldn't just put more leads on the Main Page, where they're more likely to be seen, which I would guess is your aim with this idea? Also, would the articles on the second Main Page be listed under "Latest news" in addition? Heavy Water (talk) 22:26, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes they would also be on latest news. Idea would like an actual newspaper...there are multiple pages. I have no objection to placing it further down either if you want to though...@Heavy Water Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 22:44, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Frankly, this is a bizarre idea. You're proposing to maintain a second Main Page which readers would have to click a link on the Main Page to get to, perhaps making it less likely they'll see those articles there than under "Latest news" on the Main Page. I don't get why, if it's important, we couldn't just put more leads on the Main Page, where they're more likely to be seen, which I would guess is your aim with this idea? Also, would the articles on the second Main Page be listed under "Latest news" in addition? Heavy Water (talk) 22:26, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know, for now I'm keeping as is. I think that the Main Page 2 could, pending approval, be put as a link on the Main Main Page (that sounds weird) in the current state, with minor issues like that to be worked out later@Cromium Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 21:07, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, lead 1 has prominence because ordinarily it is the most recently reviewed article. I guess we could have six on the main page and six (or four) on the second page. However, then could we not have ten on the main page? I think we need input from others. I'll put it on the site notice. [24Cr][talk] 21:01, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- That could be said of lead 1 here too. If you still want I'll try to figure out how to change that. How is the rest of it. What would you think of adding a link to it somewhere on the Main Page, where and how?@Cromium Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 20:47, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Me Da Wikipedian: I've unprotected 7 and 8. I think there should be up to six leads, so they all look equal. At the moment lead 6 has prominence because it takes up double the width of the others. [24Cr][talk] 20:43, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Me Da Wikipedian: I am not much good at code but feel free to start a subpage and play around with the layout. You'll probably need some new templates to match the five lead templates (although there are at least two unused ones around - one with a 6 and one without a number). [24Cr][talk] 12:31, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, exactly.@Cromium Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 21:36, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, I see what you mean. So, for example at the moment we have seven articles from the last 3 days, and the oldest two of those would go onto a second page? [24Cr][talk] 21:36, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- No, thats not what I'm saying at least. For example, the last 20 articles often streches back more than 3 months, those aren't really news. This would only be for the (rare) occurence where there is more than 5 articles published in a 2-3 day long period. Idea would be a second with anything not in the latest 5 but in the last 2-3 days.@Cromium Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 21:17, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- I really don't understand the rationale for this. Is there any other news site that does this or something like it? Am I missing some kind of best practice here? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:16, 6 June 2024 (UTC)