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Este es el formato normal de bienvenida que está en inglés y es de mucha ayuda cuando uno recién comienza a conocer Wikipedia.
Muchas gracias por escribir tus comentarios en el discussion page antes de editar el artículo. Aunque en principio en Wikipedia se permite editar con libertad, cuando no se está seguro es mejor discutir primero en el discussion(talk) page del artículo. De nuevo bienvenida (o bienvenido, no se jeje)  Rosa 19:09, 31 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Adding well formatted references is actually quite easy:

1. While editing any article or a wikipage, on the top of the edit window you will see a toolbar which says "Cite". Click on it.
2. Then click on "Templates".
3. Choose the most appropriate template and fill in as many details as you can. This will add a well formatted reference that is helpful in case the web URL (or "website link") becomes inactive in the future.
4. Click on Preview when you're done filling out the 'Cite (web/news/book/journal)' to make sure that the reference is correct.
5. Click on Insert to insert the reference into your editing window content.
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• Before clicking on Save page, check that a References header   ==References==   is near the end of the article.
• And check that   {{Reflist}}    is directly underneath that header.

7.  Click on Save page. ...and you've just added a complete reference to a Wikipedia article.

You can read more about this on Help:Edit toolbar or see this video File:RefTools.ogv.
Hope this helps, --Shearonink (talk) 17:11, 15 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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OK, thanks for your friendliness. That's just an automatic template for what I can type in myself using fewer characters. What gives me tizzies is this stuff. Personally, I think all history articles should be cited in the standard Chicago (or Turabian) style for the discipline. YoPienso (talk) 18:37, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yeah...due to your editing history/experience I figured you didn't really need any editing templates at all but I find this one useful especially for placing on new editors talk pages or for where editors are having trouble with citing information - thought you might need it someday here in WP-land. And YES! I find the "Sfn" style to be a real pain to deal with. I know some folks really like it but MAN it is so hard for me to code...I'm converting all the #TJF cites in the Jefferson article to direct linkage cites and it takes me *forever* just to get through one single ref conversion. The good news is after I get them all done I sure as hell will know how to do it. Shearonink (talk) 20:31, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It was a mistake on my part. Thanks for pointing it out. I've restored everything except for the link that violated the BLPEL. --Colombiaball (talk) 21:32, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. I think Matarife should also be linked because it's supposed to be about Uribe.

Two examples:

Rick Santorum is linked to a hate campaign against him, which in my view is worse than a show that accuses someone of crimes who actually has been accused of crimes similar to the ones depicted.

In Sarah Palin's BLP there are 2 links (one in the infobox and another in the text in the 2088 campaign section) to the SNL parodies of her.

Those links aren't in the "See also" section; maybe a link to "Matarife" in the narrative would be appropriate in the Uribe BLP. What do you think? YoPienso (talk) 02:04, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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What does a news article's "location in cyberspace" have anything to do with our access date? And no, access dates are not "standard in citations". There is a place for them, but not always. I didn't come here to argue with you about this. In fact, I don't really even want to talk about it. You are not going to be able to convince me that having an access date for a news story that was published in an actual paper newspaper in 1996 is useful for anything. Good day, Dawnseeker2000 06:30, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The access date tells the reader when the article was found at that site. Giving access dates is standard and is helpful. Note the last line in the section about citing webpages in the content guidelines:

Citations for World Wide Web pages typically include:

URL of the specific web page where the referenced content can be found

name of the author(s)

title of the article

title or domain name of the website

publisher, if known

date of publication

page number(s) (if applicable)

the date you retrieved (or accessed) the web page (required if the publication date is unknown)

YoPienso (talk) 06:50, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In other words, the access date is not required if there is a publication date. Dawnseeker2000 07:18, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's putting a backwards spin on it. In plain words, WP citations typically include access dates. What's your reasoning for eliminating it? Do you intend to remove all access dates from all citations? YoPienso (talk) 07:30, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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OK, thanks.
I'm trying to understand why people are writing walls of irrelevant text in the talk section I opened. YoPienso (talk) 03:25, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I am reverting your edit on Nancy Kulp that used Find A Grave as a source. I don't know the basis for your description of Find A Grave as "credible", but WP:USERGENERATED specifies Find A Grave as one of several "unacceptable user-generated sites". Eddie Blick (talk) 18:20, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I'm copying your comment here on my talk page to the article talk page and responding there. YoPienso (talk) 02:12, 31 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]