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Hi Gog, as a fellow history orientated person, and given you are battle hardened at FAC and have been eagle-eyed for me before, would you be up for a peer review of Corp Naomh maybe towards the end of next weekend, after I add a bit or two? Its in a sorry state as it stands but have a rough idea what needs fixing, although no map. Also, just to note its a dry run for tara brooch which I'm hoping might be eventually be one of my better, longer, and more substantial pages. Would very much appreciate your usual jaundice eye, on this and eventually the brooch (see what I did there haha; yes I have that much neck when it comes to getting top-notch peps on board). Ceoil (talk) 08:53, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi necky Ceoil. I am a bit up to my neck with RL, never mind three sets of WP coordinatorship. You may have noted that for pretty much the first time in the past four years there isn't a Gog article or two at FAC! Nevertheless, ping me towards the end of your fixing and I'll try to give it a copy edit. I don't promise my full, enhanced, pre-FAC version, but I'll see what I can do. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:58, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Much appreciated. Ceoil (talk) 16:08, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Gog the Mild, I know you have quite an interest in Byzantine history and have reviewed a large amount of articles relating to that topic. I was wondering if you would be interested in reviewing the article Apion (family)? It concerns one of the most influential families in Byzantine Egypt and can be found as a good article nominee for Royalty, nobility and heraldry. I nominated it in 2 October of this year and have been looking for a reviewer; I think you would be interested. GuardianH (talk) 04:41, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I saw that the TFA nomination is only currently accepting requests for dates after December 1, but that exceptions can be made under exceptional circumstances if it is discussed with TFA coordinators. I was wondering of the TFA for November 15th can be changed to E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (album) for the 40th anniversary of its release. I do not believe the current planned TFA has any significant anniversaries, and this album was rather significant. Thanks! T1980 (talk) 20:12, 17 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I may be able to accommodate you. It is more complicated than just substituting as there is the question of a balanced variety through the month. Does the article have a blurb? If not, could one be put at the top of this page. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:10, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is not blurb that I know of, so I made one and posted it at the location you requested. Please read and suggest any changes. Also, I'm not aware of any relevant free images that could be used, but perhaps there is something else that work. T1980 (talk) 23:02, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, I've formatted and trimmed the blurb to 1024 and added an image of Jacko Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:18, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Jim, that's good of you. T1980, done; but fyi it was an hour's work and included my informing an editor who I had told two weeks ago that they had a TFA that it had been pulled. So could you and any talk page stalkers be aware that this is very much an exception and that such changes are entirely at the discretion of the schedulers. There is clearly a good case for it running on 15 November, which is why I went to the trouble. But if you or any other readers of this would like an FA to run on a particular date then listing it on Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/pending and nominating it at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests at the appropriate time, would help things run smoothly. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 09:35, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I only actually learned that the anniversary recently, and probably would not have even noticed had the album not been on a list I saw last week.

I haven't been very active on wikipedia for a while, and this is my first TFA nomination since 2009 when Raul was still in charge, and my nomination of John Calvin for he 500th anniversary of his birth was well planned before it even became a featured article. Back then the nomination process was a bit different too. T1980 (talk) 12:41, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, and happy to help. Mostly I didn't want TPSs thinking that this was a routine activity. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:11, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Gog the Mild,

I just postponed deleting this draft as a CSD G13 (which I've done before) because, unlike most expiring drafts we see, it actually looks like an article. Do you think you'll return to working on it or submit it to AFC for review? I see so many bad, self-promotional drafts, it was nice to actually see a referenced article in Draft space. Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:32, 19 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Liz, and bless you for your thoughtfulness. I am not sure how the "article" ever escaped into main space - I took my eye off it for a moment and it was gone, long gone. When it was recaptured and released - quite appropriately - in draftland I thought that that was the last I would see of it. If I had realised that it was still pining I would have collected it - I think that the unilateral and unnotified renaming threw me off its trail. It has now rejoined the flock at User:Gog the Mild/Battle of Prison Valley. Having been prompted I may jump this up the list of "drafts" to prepare for FAC, but you know how it is: So many potential FAs, so little time.

In fine feel free to put the orphaned draft out of its misery and thank you for pausing on the "Delete" button and checking with me. I won't than you for saying nice things about the draft, as actually being referenced seems a low bar.

Gog the Mild (talk) 16:53, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gog, i had a quick question regarding this blurb for this article. does the image used in the blurb depict a scene from the weardale campaign? admittedly, i could not find anything noting that it was, and the inclusion of the depiction of the battle of la roche-derrien in the article made me wonder if this image was also not necessarily of the weardale campaign. if this is the case, i was contemplating adding "during the Anglo-Scottish Wars" at the end of the caption in the blurb to make this more clear. dying (talk) 23:30, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi dying. Yes, it is a representation of an event in the Weardale campaign. From the article "They occupied rocky heights immediately overlooking the fast-flowing river ... The English then sent heralds, inviting the Scots to abandon their positions and engage in a fair and open battle."

As it is an image of an event in the TFA it didn't seem necessary to spell out for a reader that the image and the article were related. If you feel it is necessary, then perhaps add "during the campaign". But, please, not "during the Anglo-Scottish Wars".

Battle of la Roche-Derrien image - fair point. Even approximately contemporary images are hard to come by, so I tend to use what is available and use a vague caption, so I can see how it is left open to doubt the images which do directly elate to the article. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:56, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

oh, sorry, Gog! my question was whether the image from froissart's chronicles depicts a scene from the weardale campaign rather than whether the english sent a herald to the scots during the weardale campaign, since i had trouble determining the former, and the latter is clearly mentioned in the article. however, if the illustration is indeed of the weardale campaign, then my suggestion to amend the caption is obviously moot. the reference to the anglo-scottish wars was based on the caption in the herald article, though the caption in the kingdom of scotland article, which states "in the period of the Hundred Years' War", made me wonder if the depicted incident occurred after the weardale campaign.

i share your frustration at often being unable to find contemporary images to illustrate an article, though after an editor made a valid point that some of my captions could be misleading, i personally try to be more explicit with my captions to avoid misleading anyone. (a particularly extreme example can be found here.) although i generally don't hold anyone else to that standard, i think tfa blurbs tend to be a bit stricter, which is why i thought i might raise the point with you here. in any case, thanks for addressing the issue! dying (talk) 23:37, 21 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you today for the article, introduced: "Another of Edward III's military campaigns, his first. One which left him weeping with frustration." - great introduction. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:20, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

... and today for Second Battle of Cape Finisterre (1747), introduced last year: "A typical naval battle from the age of sail. It was of some importance at the time, but seems to have been largely escaped detailed scholarly scrutiny. Which means that the article is short, but that I believe that it contains pretty much all there is to be said about the battle."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:27, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Gog,

I need some help with an article of mine and remembering the exchange we had I thought I'd come to you for some for advice. Back in August, after a many, many number of edits, I finally completed this article that I had created. However, since then, I've felt that there was a few things that need improving, and seeing that you are a more experienced editor than me, especially with articles about military history, I thought you'd be the best person to ask. I was intending to ask you around the same time I completed the article, but until recently I have been largely inactive on Wikipedia and didn't get around to doing it. Now that I'm getting back into the swing of things, I decided to return to my article and fix a few things.

I want the article to be in the best it can, so I was wondering what things you'd recommend changing – like what parts you think I should rewrite and things like that.

I also wanted to ask about citation style. When writing the article, I looked at the citation style of some featured articles and I took a leaf out of this article and placed a citation at the end of each sentence. However, I looked at the article about the Battle of Leuthen and noticed the citations in the battle section were more sporadic. Am I doing something wrong. Earle Bartibus Huxley (talk) 23:26, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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		On behalf of the Milhist coordinators, I hereby award you the Military History Writers' Contest Cup, for consistent performance during the 2021 Military History Article Writing Contest, accumulating a total of 455 points from 47 articles throughout the year. Congratulations and thank you for your efforts! Hog Farm Talk 02:02, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I also had to hand out Sturmvogel 66's from 2020, as it looks like that got forgotten, too. Hog Farm _Talk 02:02, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]