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==Serious misquotings and falsifications of sources.==
==Serious misquotings and falsifications of sources.==
Hi Yannismarou. There is a major problem with the present Chams article as it is full of falsifications and misquoting of its sources. Until yesterday I had no idea about but in a day (until now) I found 14!! such cases in that article, indicating a consistent effort possibly from more than one editors. I really don't know how to manage the situation because I believe that they are many more such cases. I started to report the cases one by one to the discussion page and to edit the article but the falsifications are too many to do it by myself before an edit war will start again to stop any real work. Can you please take a look to the discussion and the already mentioning cases (I will give at least eight more) to make your checking and to tell me how to manage the situation. Can we freeze the article so to examine one by one every source on it? It is impossible to do it by myself when every day new references and edits are adding (by the same person), together with the hot debate in the discussion page. About the discussion I indeed believing that is used as an excuse to leave the article as it is. See for example what happened with the Igoumenitsa discussion (much to the same issue about Chams)[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Igoumenitsa#POV_pushing]. You will see much the same story. When I firstly edited the article the same persons asked me to go to discuss it before. After the usual hot debate of the first days, now I am taking one answer every week and after 21 days of almost no participation, the discussion is dead much the same as the article as we have “no consensus” to edit it. They simply don't care any more since the article is now effectively locked having not a single undesirable word. They have ten days to participate, having to answer a week before their last post. Thanks and sorry for the trouble. --[[User:Factuarius|Factuarius]] ([[User talk:Factuarius|talk]]) 06:35, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi Yannismarou. There is a major problem with the present Chams article as it is full of falsifications and misquoting of its sources. Until yesterday I had no idea about but in a day (until now) I found 14!! such cases in that article, indicating a consistent effort possibly from more than one editors. I really don't know how to manage the situation because I believe that they are many more such cases. I started to report the cases one by one to the discussion page and to edit the article but the falsifications are too many to do it by myself before an edit war will start again to stop any real work. Can you please take a look to the discussion and the already mentioning cases (I will give at least eight more) to make your checking and to tell me how to manage the situation. Can we freeze the article so to examine one by one every source on it? It is impossible to do it by myself when every day new references and edits are adding (by the same person), together with the hot debate in the discussion page. About the discussion I indeed believing that is used as an excuse to leave the article as it is. See for example what happened with the Igoumenitsa discussion (much to the same issue about Chams)[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Igoumenitsa#POV_pushing]. You will see much the same story. When I firstly edited the article the same persons asked me to go to discuss it before. After the usual hot debate of the first days, now I am taking one answer every week and after 21 days of almost no participation, the discussion is dead much the same as the article as we have “no consensus” to edit it. They simply don't care any more since the article is now effectively locked having not a single undesirable word. They have ten days to participate, having to answer a week before their last post. Thanks and sorry for the trouble. --[[User:Factuarius|Factuarius]] ([[User talk:Factuarius|talk]]) 06:35, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

== Request for clarification: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia 2 ==

Since you were one of the people in support of ''Proposal G'', I am informing you of the request for clarification I have put forth [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification#Request_for_clarification:_Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration.2FMacedonia_2_2], in light of its removal from the list of proposals brought forth to RfC. --[[User:Radjenef|Radjenef]] ([[User talk:Radjenef|talk]]) 18:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

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Re : Chalepas

It was a great idea to nominate this fact to DYK. Thanks for the information. --Lapost (talk) 05:13, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Βοήθεια για τη Μακεδονία

Αγαπητέ Yannismarou Θέλω να βοηθήσω τα άτομα (editors) που ασχολούνται με το θέμα της Μακεδονίας. Με επιστημονικά/ιστορικά στοιχεία και σε συνεργασία με καθηγητές πανεπιστημίων διεθνούς κύρους. Με ποιον να έρθω σε επαφή και με ποιόν τρόπο (πως μπορώ να στείλω κρυφό μήνυμα)?

Μπορείτε να επικοινωνήσετε μαζί μου στο bobptz παπάκι Τζιμαιλ τελεία κομ. Kavathes (talk) 11:07, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Someone has a sense of humour

Sorry but considering what some editors have to endure right now, I cannot help but :-) and :-) and :-) again. p.s. feel free to dlt my note. Politis (talk) 14:57, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Solar System

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I should have done this MUCH earlier! First time - learning & living! HarryAlffa (talk) 19:40, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ChrisO hands out illegal warning

I just got a warning from ChrisO for 'Original Research.' I was editing the list in the Macedonia Name Dispute page and I had just removed a reference used fort he Dutch position as it was a dead link. Then I noticed the two GOVT references on this page: [[1]] both point to Denmark using FYROM or FYR Macedonia yet Denmark was in the list under 'List of countries to be sorted.' I moved Denmark to countries which use FYROM, ChrisO immediately reverted stating you need a source that states how Denmark uses the name, not infer it yourself from a random document. I then informed him, the 'random document were two Danish Govt Pages that were already there as references concerning Denmark and reverted. ChrisO then proceeded to revert and dish me out with an 'Original Research Warning.' This time he changed his story and stated: you are inferring Denmark's position, but the documents you cite do not say anything about whether Denmark recognises the constitutional name or not. This is interesting. Most of the list is made up of Embassy pages using the word Macedonia, and immediately they are on the list, under countries who recognise the Republic of Macedonia. I wonder how many of those editors received warnings from ChrisO? I am going to make this action of ChrisO stick as his behaviour in general has downgraded the neutrality Administrators are supposed to have. Any help on how to make him come to account for this action would be most appreciated. He has put the case down here:[[2]] Reaper7 (talk) 13:58, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reaper7, I'm not going to comment on ChrisO's actions. I only have your side of the story. But I will say that the whole issue of Macedonia's name is in arbitration right now. What the heck are you doing editing the name or anything at all to do with the name when the arbitration is underway? That's just not being very smart. You, like everyone else, should be treating the name "Macedonia" (or any variation thereof) like it is a poisonous snake in any article you find it at. To rephrase the Miranda warning: "Anything you do can and will be used against you in the arbitration proceeding." (Taivo (talk) 21:59, 2 May 2009 (UTC))[reply]
OK, I notice that there's been some editing going on over at Macedonia naming dispute. To me that's just walking through a minefield with your fingers crossed while the arbitration is underway. So, Reaper7, you're not the only one playing with vipers and hoping you don't get bit. (Taivo (talk) 22:38, 2 May 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Oh rly?

Since you are so determined to chase me down, maybe you'd also care to answer my question I posed here [3]? (Preferably answer it here, to avoid yet more clutter on the arb page). Fut.Perf. 10:03, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, not better now. But please do let it stand like this; it will clearly demonstrate to the arbs the quality of your argumentation, and how well you understand what "AGF" means. Fut.Perf. 10:10, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Both here and there. AGF: "Most people try to help the project, not hurt it." Sorry if I am wrong, but by your FoF I got the slight impression that you don't exactly believe the first part of the sentence about Nikos with regards to the ARBCOM case.--Yannismarou (talk) 10:12, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ου ψευδομαρτυρήσεις κατά του πλησίον σου μαρτυρίαν ψευδή. Look again. Fut.Perf. 10:37, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(ce) I am not a fun of Ten Commandments! Fut, when 1) you believe that the X person is a disruption for the project on the Z topic, 2) you don't regard his contributions as useful on the Z topic but as a means for POV-pushing, then IMO you do not AGF, because I believe that 3) this user does not disrupt the project, 4) he is not a POV pusher, and his contributions are useful! In any case, I refute the argument that I am determined to chase you down. ChrisO yes; I made my case for his desysopping. You no, I never said you are a bad sysop. Chris is!--Yannismarou (talk) 10:45, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, you're a lawyer? You need a brush-up course on the trivium, especially the art of syllogism. Fut.Perf. 10:50, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No, I am not a lawyer; I am just a humble jurist. And, hopefully, I've saved myself from such boring courses.--Yannismarou (talk) 10:57, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe they would help your performance at Arbcom though. But I can imagine Bulgarian courses are probably more entertaining. Fut.Perf. 11:04, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Gmhm. I really don't know what is more boring, ARBMAC2 or Bulgarian courses!--Yannismarou (talk) 13:03, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Still, in the interest of making ARBMAC even more boring, you might consider resisting the temptation to spice it up by giving false evidence against thy neighbour. You may not be a big fan of the Ten Commandments, or you may or may not be a big fan of making fun of them, but human society in general has traditionally assigned a certain value to this particular one. Fut.Perf. 13:41, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And by the way, somebody ought to also try to reduce those turba choruses over at the arbcom page to a tolerable piano, there's too many false notes. Won't you be their singing master? They might listen to you; they certainly won't listen to me. Fut.Perf. 14:01, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Humph [4]. I suppose I've had enough intercourse with you to know your sense of humour, but are you sure the arbs do? Ου ψευδομαρτυρήσεις and all that jazz... Fut.Perf. 15:52, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Macedonians

Basically you can see Macedonians (Greeks) as an expanded version of the regional identity section of Macedonia (Greece). Regional identity has its roots and the history of that is in the article. Of course some summaries about origins, preface and geopolitical context for coherence are needed. Generally how do you see the article right now? Πως σου φαίνεται? Shadowmorph (talk) 22:48, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's a nice start, but it needs a lot of work, in order to acquire a proper structure, an even development of sections, a proper implementation of MoS guidelines etc. What I like a lot is the photographic material you've gathered and added.--Yannismarou (talk) 23:15, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Translation

Thank you for the translation. I completely forgot about it!. If you have some time, this user of late has been making some frustration changes and edits. Most prominently; Polykastro and Polykastro (municipality). Thanks. PMK1 (talk) 05:05, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You would an appropriate admin to see regarding this category, your ideas/opinions? PMK1 (talk) 12:12, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I thought id ask you first, in case to Greeks it meant something. To me a "northern Macedonian" is a Skopjan, funny. :). Anyways, it is where it should be. PMK1 (talk) 12:53, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Helios

I've been googling about this encyclopedia but I can't find any info about it. I'm not saying that it doesn't exist or that it's not credible, since you and some others have told me otherwise, but do you have any information about it? I'd like to check it (and the bibliogaphy it might cite) out.Drakein (talk) 06:13, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you for the information! Turns out the Greek National Library of Athens has it. Sorry for deleting it before, not finding anything online about it's content made me think "it's unknown and Greek therefore most likely biased". Will check it out. Drakein (talk) 08:59, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Input at ARBMAC2

I'd really like your input here: Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Macedonia_2/Workshop#Question_for_parties RlevseTalk 21:59, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edits

Re. [5]: Sorry, simple mistake on my part. I meant to revert the IP and hadn't noticed Chris had already done so.

Και κάτι άλλο, ίσως θα'ταν καλό να μην κάνεις πλάκες στο Αρμπκομ όπως αυτό που είπες τον Κρις κι εμένα κάλτσες προχτές. Μωρέ εγώ καταλαβαίνω το χιούμορ σου, αλλά αυτοί όχι. Χτες άκουσα από δυο άτομα ξεχοριστά στο IRC πως το κατάλαβαν σαν πραγματική κατηγορία. Παραλίγο να φας μπλόκο για τρόλλιγκ. Fut.Perf. 09:54, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your advice!--Yannismarou (talk) 09:56, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Δεν το σβήνεις καλύτερα τελείως εκείνο το παράγραφο; Εχουμε ήδη αρκετή σαβούρα και βαβούρα εκεί πέρα, δε νομίζεις; Fut.Perf. 10:04, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Не съм те виждал много време

...се фаган та вулгарика кье хаθикьес. Де леo един език никога не е достатъчен, алла мин τo πараκанис κьoлас. Реπo симера кье θа качo на дo кана имеил кье на еπикинoнисo ке ме кана филo месo MСН ама лахи. Ан тихи кье бис θа харo на маθo та неа су! -- Георги Тзимов 12:00, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Χα! Χα! Μπορεί να σε πετύχω το βράδυ! Ντασβιντάνε!--Yannismarou (talk) 13:18, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Надявам се да се видим днес. Трябваше да видя приятел но когато проверих моя MСН вие не са били там, съжалявам! (Ката лекси: Елпизо на се до симера. Иха на до (ена) фило, алла отан елегкса (то) МСН му ден се ида. Сигноми!) -- Георги Тзимов (talk) 14:59, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Vre manari mou, tria ma8hmata exw kanei o dolios ola ki ola! Ti me grafeis edw?!--Yannismarou (talk) 17:49, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Янни му θа се малосо, На дялексис то тахириθмо тмима. ден фтани пу ден се петихено поте сто мсн, ден мелетас киолас. Θа та пуме то септември ме тус кидемонес су…
Я су ре Гиорго Чифти. тасос логос 18:11, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
О ре педи, му лирсате евлогименои, и панагя кода сас, к’ ира на пяко то петегулио ма поте ден прокано о руфианос!
Телиа корфиатика опос панта. Хероме пoлу пу се ксанавлепo. Исе кe o монос пу θа скефтoтан на графи корфиатика (ке охи моно) ме тo кирилликo алфавитo. Акoма ден мпоро на стаматисо на гелао, моно пу на графо ине алли историа. О де Яннис графи ке Агглика. Акоми дең ехо синелθи апo афто. Полла филиа ке та ксаналеме. Доктор К. логос 22:14, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Аи ам андер аттак! Παιδιά, роборя много еэик българсҝиеэик!--Yannismarou (talk) 18:21, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Андер аттак? Лол. Янни мин иπерваллис. тасос логос 18:49, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Α, Георги! Симера де та име емесен. има Саки!--Сакис (Евровизия) 18:26, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ПНО САКИ!?! АФТО ТОН АСХИМАДРА? Ре его име пио оморфос... -- Георги Тзимов (talk) 20:44, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ьорги исе тзимани, яти де графис пьo сихна омос? Ипархун пoли пу се дяавазун тактика. Яни лигo ксилинос му фаникье о Сакис, лес на ихе трак?-- Αвг (Беседа)]20:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ЛОЛ, ехо копси тн гуики махери гиати м’ афта пу евлепа му епесе и триха… осо гя то саки фоваме оти θа мас фаи лахано то виоли ту хари потер гамоти… -- Георги Тзимов(talk) 20:59, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Кала канис я тин психики су игиа, oти мас липис падос, мас липис.-- Αвг (Беседа)21:13, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Симфоно ме тон Αвг. Доктор К. логос 22:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Βρε μην μου γράφετε τέτοια κι είμαι κι ευσυγκίνητος. Σ' ευχαριστώ βέβαια για τον καλό τον λόγο, αλλά δεν τον αξίζω σε καμία περίπτωση. --Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 21:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Kала, е, моно пииииип де су ехуме пари! Ти аллo тeс!--Yannismarou (talk) 23:21, 14 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Μνογκο ιντερεσνα σουπα οτ αζμπουκη, πριατελλη :) BalkanFever 14:45, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Λάικ ολ άδερ μπαλκάνιαν σουπς. Ιτ μαστ χαβ σαμθινκ του ντου γουίδ δι ινγκρίντιαντς άι πρεζουμ... χε χε χε -- Георги Тзимовски (talk)15:11, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Γκρεϊτ, μαυ άι φιλ λάικ ταρατορ... BalkanFever 15:23, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
јес бат ју гуил енд ап фартин јор гатс аут… ит гонт ерн ју ени френдс lol -- Георги Тзимовски (talk) 15:38, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Френѕ, еј? Донт ноy хау ју фокс ду ит вит де ѕаѕики, бат таратор из нот а комјунал мил фор ми :) BalkanFever 16:01, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
О но, Валкан Фивер хас дисковеред ас. Доктор К. логос 20:22, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ARBMAC2

Hey, I didn't know that overlapping proposals where a real issue there since there are a bunch. I wasn't sure if a wanted to post any proposals because I am not as familiar with this stuff as you guys. Yet I didn't want to appear as indifferent either. Any ones in particular that need revision? Shadowmorph ^"^ 19:33, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think there is any appearance of contradiction on my behalf? I still support the other proposals that I supported too. It is hard to follow all that is said there and maybe I have repeated myself. Shadowmorph ^"^ 19:39, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Athletics

This may be a distraction from you "Big 4" of articles to improve but your recent FA Stamata Revithi falls under the banner of WikiProject Athletics. Would you like to sign up?

Also, can I just say that I really appreciate your approach to the Macedonian situation? It is understandable that the name and cultural appropriation of aspects of Ancient Macedonia by the Republic of Macedonia is a frustrating situation for many Greeks. However, upon discussion with Greek people they often come to the conclusion that this appropriation is wrong because the people in Macedonia are a different people (Bulgarians or whatever...). Judging from your talk page you seem to realise that the supposed historical and current ethnography is not so clear cut. It might bruise certain Greek egos to find out that, ethnically, they have more Italian or Turkish roots than "Ancient Greek" ones (whatever that means!), but this is not an unusual occurrence. I appreciate your forethought on what is still a controversial topic. Any hopefully you're interested in the WikiProject! Cheers! Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)WIKIPROJECT ATHLETICS NEEDS YOU! 12:33, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yeah, and I noticed that you contributed much on El Greco. I actually used this as a good example of a lead in my essay at Wikipedia:Lead the way. So good work on that too! Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)WIKIPROJECT ATHLETICS NEEDS YOU! 12:37, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Greece-Kyrgyzstan relations

Can anyone help find references for: Greece-Kyrgyzstan relations. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 15:49, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User:Pyraechmes

First, you probably should ask User:DragonflySixtyseven as the blocking admin, not me. It's his block you're planning on overturning. Second, this area of article is bad enough with people's "sarcasm" and other comments that aggravate others. I've worked on the Serbian/Croatian Eastern European nonsense and indefinite blocks are sometimes the only thing to keep things sane. Third, the removal of inappropriate comments you find as a positive could also be seen as a way of cleaning up the talk page for the reviewing editor, but I'll assume good faith on that one. Frankly, being calm after you've been an idiot and you have no other choice is not an excuse to me. Plenty of people here are calm and nice when admins are around but act like idiots when left alone. Fourth, if you want to, make it clear nobody cares about hating Jews or his personal beliefs but about his conduct. Fifth, he's been here since January, been warned about the arbitration case, and still thought that was all a good idea. His judgment is not something I support at this point. Sixth, he has a host of copyright notices on his page, and comments like this don't indicate an interest in neutrality or in our source requirements. If he kept up the images problem, he'd get reported soon enough and find himself blocked for that. The fact that he didn't acknowledge it concerns me. However, I see you've been working with him quite a while. If you can get the original admin to go along, go ahead. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 19:53, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry about it. Note that Dragonfly's note on the block log said "block is for user's own good" so he might be more amiable to reversing than most. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 23:22, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA

Hi Yanni, I've nominated Autonomous Republic of Northern Epirus for 'GA' status, feel free to take a look and make comments for possible improvements. Thank youAlexikoua (talk) 08:29, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for delaying to respond! I'll have a look during the weekend.--Yannismarou (talk) 16:16, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Yanni. I'll make the corrections and answer soon to the p-r questions. Can't wait to improve this.Alexikoua (talk) 22:13, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is a POV abuse in the article Despotate of Epirus, someone insists that it was Albanian-speaking too (claiming that Albanian was equal used as Greek), although the sources he provides prove exactly the opposite about that state's identity. If you have time, take a look.

On Aut. r. of Northern Epirus, im working with the pictures right now, hope the descriptions are ok.Alexikoua (talk) 13:22, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try to find out some material for the July-October 1914 period, however I believe there is not much to find. Thank you.Alexikoua (talk) 18:27, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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ΑΓΑΠΗΤΕ ΓΙΑΝΝΗΣΜΑΡΟΥ (Γιάννης Μάρου; ή Μαρού΄)

ΕΧΩ ΧΙΛΙΑΔΕΣ ΑΡΘΡΑ ΓΙΑ ΤΟΝ ΑΝΤΡΕΑ ΣΑΒΒΙΔΗ, ΤΟ ΓΝΩΣΤΟ ΣΤΟΥΣ ΠΑΛΑΙΟΤΕΡΟΥΣ, ΩΣ ΗΡΑΚΛΗ ΤΗΣ ΚΥΠΡΟΥ.

ΕΧΩ ΓΡΑΨΕΙ ΛΙΓΑ ΛΟΓΙΑ ΓΙ ΑΥΤΟΝ ΒΑΣΙΖΟΜΕΝΟΣ ΣΕ ΑΥΤΑ ΤΑ ΑΡΘΡΑ, ΑΛΛΑ ΚΑΙ ΣΕ ΣΥΝΕΝΤΕΥΞΕΙΣ, ΚΛΠ ΕΠΙΠΡΟΣΘΕΤΑ ΕΙΜΑΣΤΕ ΣΧΕΔΟΝ ΣΥΝΟΜΗΛΙΚΟΙ (ΕΙΜΑΙ 70 ΧΡΟΝΏΝ)ΚΑΙ ΗΜΟΥΝ ΜΑΡΤΥΡΑΣ ΣΕ ΠΟΛΛΑ ΑΠΟ ΤΑ ΚΑΤΟΡΘΩΜΑΤΑ ΤΟΥ. ΟΠΟΙΟΝ ΗΛΙΚΙΩΜΕΝΟ ΡΩΤΗΣΕΙΣ ΣΤΗΝ ΚΥΠΡΟ ΘΑ ΣΟΥ ΔΙΗΓΗΘΕΙ ΚΑΤΙ ΓΙ' ΑΥΤΟΝ. ΕΞΑΛΛΟΥ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΧΙΛΙΑΔΕΣ ΟΙ ΚΥΠΡΙΟΙ ΠΟΥ ΠΑΡΑΚΟΛΟΥΘΗΣΑΝ ΤΗ ΣΥΝΑΝΤΗΣΗ ΤΟΥ ΜΕ ΤΟ ΔΗΜΗΤΡΗ ΚΟΥΤΑΛΙΑΝΟ, ΤΟΝ ΟΟΙΟ ΚΑΙ ΝΙΚΗΣΕ.

ΑΝ ΡΩΤΗΣΕΤΕ ΤΟΝ ΚΥΡΙΟ ΜΠΕΗ ΠΟΥ ΗΤΑΝ ΓΕΝΙΚΟΣ ΠΡΕΣΒΕΥΤΗΣ ΤΗΣ ΚΥΠΡΟΥ ΣΤΗΝ ΑΥΣΤΡΑΛΙΑ ΘΑ ΘΥΜΗΘΕΙ ΤΑ ΛΟΓΙΑ ΠΟΥ ΤΟΥΗ ΕΙΠΕ ΜΕΤΑ ΤΗΝ ΠΑΓΚΟΣΜΙΑ ΝΙΚΗ ΤΟΥ: "ΜΑΣ ΕΧΕΤΕ ΚΑΝΕΙ ΥΠΕΡΗΦΑΝΟΥΣ ΟΛΟΥΣ ΤΟΥΣ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ ΣΕ ΟΛΟΚΛΗΡΟ ΤΟΝ ΚΟΣΜΟ ΙΔΙΑΙΤΕΡΑ ΜΕΤΑ ΠΟΥ ΑΠΕΤΥΧΕ Η ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ ΟΜΑΔΑ ΑΡΣΗΣ ΒΑΡΩΝ ..." Τότε ο Σαββίδης ήταν 54 χρονών.

Εν πασει περιπτωσει,με ποιο τρόπο μπορώ να σας στείλω 13 σελίδες από φωτογραφίες άρθρων, μεταλλίων,κλπ;

Σας έστειλα μια επιστολή με το όνομα μου Charls Andre, αλλά πήρα e-mail ότι είχα κάνει παράβαση. Τι είδους παράβαση έκανα ακόμη δεν έχω καταλάβει. Σας έγγραψα όπως είχα οδηγίες.

Παρακαλώ επίσης όπως με βοηθήσεις λέγοντας μου πως να κατορθωσω να σας στείλω το φάκελλο με τα ντοκουμέντα. Είχα κάνει προσπάθεια να τον στείλω στη Wikipedia, αλλά μου λέχθξηκε ότι έπρεπε να χρησιμο- ποιήσω φάκελλο TIFF κλπ. Εγώ δεν καταλαβαίνω πολλά πράγματα από κομπιούτερς. Χρειάζομαι βοήθεια. Πεσ μου παρακλώ τι θα κάνω.

Φιλικά

Charls Andre (Υποψιάζομαι ότι δεν μπορώ να σου στείλων το e-mail μου. Γι' αυτό δεν σου τοπ στέλνω. Υπάρχει όμως στη σελίδα μου όπου κάνω log in.) Charls Andre (talk) 16:33, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RE: WP:GREECE

Thanks very much for your acceptance! I'll put some questions up at User:Garden/int2 and when I do so I'll tell you here (you could also watchlist that page if it is easier). Thanks again, look forward to the interview! weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 19:45, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Attalus I

Hi Yannismarou. I don't think we want breaks in the "refs", The rest of the "refs" use ";" between multiple cites. I've been converting the breaks to ";". Also I'm assuming you will add works being cited (Austin, Lagnavec, Gruen, et al) to the reference list? It would be ideal to have the works listed there before citing them. Paul August 21:38, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply on my talk page, I've replied there. Paul August 21:55, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And again. Paul August 22:02, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yannismarou, I've copied our discussion to Talk:Attalus_I#Recent_edits, so that other editors of that article might benefit or participate. Please see also some comments and a question I've written there concerning some of your edits. Thanks, Paul August 18:31, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above.

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On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Tiptoety talk 21:32, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss this

Pericles

Bibliography to add (just out):

Tracy, S.V. (2009) Pericles: a Sourcebook and Reader (Berkeley).

Thanks,

Bob L. Lugy01 (talk) 15:42, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You have been nominated for membership of the Established Editors Association

The Established editors association will be a kind of union of who have made substantial and enduring contributions to the encyclopedia for a period of time (say, two years or more). The proposed articles of association are here - suggestions welcome.

If you wish to be elected, please notify me here. If you know of someone else who may be eligible, please nominate them here

Discussion is here.Peter Damian (talk) 19:59, 15 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Advice needed

Hello Yannis! I cam across this newly-created account, where someone has copied my userpage verbatim (and copied stuff from other users' talk pages for his talk page). Aside from creating this page, the user doesn't appear to have any edits. I have left a warning in his talkpage, but it's possible he won't answer (my hunch is that this represents some form of vandalism, and the account will remain inactive). Would I be justified in unilaterally removing the content from the user page? Regards, Constantine 12:07, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the swift action. Cheers, Constantine 13:27, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This turned out to be a serial troll who did the same with multiple accounts; a number are now blocked. By the way Yanni, will you be taking part at Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Macedonia? There's a couple points where I had expected your input. Fut.Perf. 10:49, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I will!--Yannismarou (talk) 10:50, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your kind comments...

...but I really can't see how I could ever take part in that incredible situation. It is just beyond me. I really, trully, sincerely thank you for the compliments (that I really, trully, sincerely don't deserve). I 'll stick to fooling around occasionally:-)-Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 16:10, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Chams

Hi, Yannis, please take part on the discussion on Talk:Cham Albanians.Balkanian`s word (talk) 12:54, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try Balk, but δεν έχω χρόνο ούτε για να μην πω τι!--Yannismarou (talk) 18:30, 20 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We're holding a preferential vote to decide what proposals should go forward to the community and narrow down the vast selection that we currently have. Since you've commented at the above discussion, I thought you would appreciate the opportunity to participate Fritzpoll (talk) 08:27, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Info

I cannot locate what A B C, etc refer to, please point out. Thanks. Politis (talk) 15:27, 24 June 2009 (UTC) Dont bother, On track, I found it. Politis (talk)[reply]

RL end?

I dont know if you have much time; but I think that a 3rd opinion is really needed on Talk:Cham Albanians, cause the POVs are totally extreme and WP:IDONTHEARTHAT pai synefo. Can we have your thoughts in there?Balkanian`s word (talk) 16:37, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Serious misquotings and falsifications of sources.

Hi Yannismarou. There is a major problem with the present Chams article as it is full of falsifications and misquoting of its sources. Until yesterday I had no idea about but in a day (until now) I found 14!! such cases in that article, indicating a consistent effort possibly from more than one editors. I really don't know how to manage the situation because I believe that they are many more such cases. I started to report the cases one by one to the discussion page and to edit the article but the falsifications are too many to do it by myself before an edit war will start again to stop any real work. Can you please take a look to the discussion and the already mentioning cases (I will give at least eight more) to make your checking and to tell me how to manage the situation. Can we freeze the article so to examine one by one every source on it? It is impossible to do it by myself when every day new references and edits are adding (by the same person), together with the hot debate in the discussion page. About the discussion I indeed believing that is used as an excuse to leave the article as it is. See for example what happened with the Igoumenitsa discussion (much to the same issue about Chams)[6]. You will see much the same story. When I firstly edited the article the same persons asked me to go to discuss it before. After the usual hot debate of the first days, now I am taking one answer every week and after 21 days of almost no participation, the discussion is dead much the same as the article as we have “no consensus” to edit it. They simply don't care any more since the article is now effectively locked having not a single undesirable word. They have ten days to participate, having to answer a week before their last post. Thanks and sorry for the trouble. --Factuarius (talk) 06:35, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Request for clarification: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia 2

Since you were one of the people in support of Proposal G, I am informing you of the request for clarification I have put forth [7], in light of its removal from the list of proposals brought forth to RfC. --Radjenef (talk) 18:05, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]