November 7

Hi,

I’d like to link Marianne (magazine, 1932–1940) to the fr:Marianne (journal, 1932-1940). Could someone help me? Thanks. 2A02:A420:10:2F9:FD51:BCF8:CBE0:A22E (talk) 08:22, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi IP 2A02:A420:10:2F9:FD51:BCF8:CBE0:A22E. Go to the left side bar of Marianne (magazine, 1932–1940) and look for "Add links" in the "Languages" section. Click on that and follow the guidance in the pop-up window. That should link the two articles together. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:49, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done, and Romanian tagged along. This is done under "Languages" to the left on the article (as seen on a laptop or in desktop view), but I don't know if unregistered editors can do it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:51, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, my name is Kigen Brian, Wikipedia account name is HottestHost254. I have been trying to create an edit for the University Page Contact which is wrongly cited as Phone: 0702 140074 whereas the true university contact should be Phone: 0709 153000

Kindly help.

Regards. HottestHost254 (talk) 09:08, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Generally speaking, Wikipedia articles do not give contact phone numbers. What is the page involved here?--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 09:11, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mount Kenya University HottestHost254 (talk) 09:12, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The article currently has no phone number I can see, but links to the university's own website. That's how it should be. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:18, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Courtesy link: Mount Kenya University --♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 09:52, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you HottestHost254 (talk) 11:48, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you HottestHost254 (talk) 11:48, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your addition of a phone number to Mount Kenya University was disallowed by filters. That is as it should be. Wikipedia is not a directory. -- Alexf^(talk) 11:30, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks HottestHost254 (talk) 11:49, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Is my sandbox (the one where I conduct tests on), visible or editable to other people? I want it to be completely private, since I do not want other people to see content that I personally test with. Is there a way to make it private? Wikipedian10282 (talk) 12:38, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikipedian10282 No there isn't, everything you can edit on WP can be seen by anyone who knows where to look. So there is absolutely stuff you shouldn't do as as tests/practise even in your sandbox, like copypasting copyrighted text into WP, WP:BLP-violations etc. For complete privacy, don't use WP. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:44, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That sums it up, thank you! Wikipedian10282 (talk) 12:45, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I was just wondering, why does wikipedia have so many HyperText and links? Wikipedian10282 (talk) 13:19, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by "Hypertext"? (Is it this? Or is it this?) Bazza (talk) 13:24, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the confusion. Yes, I meant wikilinks - Wikilinks Wikipedian10282 (talk) 13:27, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They are used for the reason we've been (mostly) using them — to provide easy access to further information when the reader may not completely understand what has been written. Bazza (talk) 13:46, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It helps that it's very easy to make wikilinks, e.g. changing example to [[example]] where HTML would be <a href="/wiki/Example">example</a>. But we do have limits at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking#What generally should not be linked. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:55, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Wikipedian10282 (talk) 15:06, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikipedian10282: you can think of it as a core technical policy of Wikipedia, embedded in the "wiki" part of name, and they are a defining feature. When Wikipedia started in 2002, it was not as obvious as is in now that hypertext links were such a powerful tool. -Arch dude (talk) 15:38, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Wikipedian10282 (talk) 19:29, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

На этой странице (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamer_of_Tigers#Supporting_roles_and_substitutions)

размещена статья "Укротитель тигров" о фильме "Укротительница тигров" (???).
В описании сюжета фильма три повтора (одни и те же строки повторяются три раза). Данную статью нужно либо поправить, либо удалить.

Статья "Укротительница тигров" тоже есть в Википедии, там ошибок нет. 2A01:540:2:97EA:74CE:86DE:85BC:A46F (talk) 16:33, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Google translate says:

Tiger Tamer article [link]

On this page [link]

published an article "Tiger Tamer" about the film "Tiger Tamer" (???).

There are three repetitions in the description of the plot of the film (the same lines are repeated three times). This article should either be corrected or removed.

The article "Tiger Tamer" is also on Wikipedia, there are no errors 199.208.172.35 (talk) 18:03, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The translation might be a bit inaccurate since "Укротитель тигров" is different from "Укротительница тигров" in that "ница" was added. I don't speak or understand russian tho so I couldn't tell you what it actually means. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 19:29, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see the duplication that the OP is talking about, in either Tamer of Tigers or ru:Укротительница тигров. Blaze Wolf, the longer word means a female tamer, the shorter a male tamer. The film is about a female tamer, so that is the word in the title of the ru article. I don't know know why the OP is talking about an article about a male tamer, unless perhaps they have used machine translation on the title of the English article. ColinFine (talk) 21:00, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh it's one of those gendered words that English just doesn't have. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 21:05, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

An English equivalent might be tamer and tameress. I think the English language is moving away from such gendered distinctions. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 21:24, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would favour "tamester" myself. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 5.64.163.219 (talk) 10:29, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have been working on updating lists of state ballot measures for a while now and am dead-set on fleshing out all 50 states. I am wondering what the process is to create a template - I have a basic template set up in my sandbox that I would like to eventually put on each article once I get more than 50% of them done. To do that would I just copy/paste the source into a page titled Template:Ballot measures footer or is there a different process to follow? ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)^{Talk to Me!} 16:53, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@ThadeusOfNazereth: That's it. You might have used {{United States topic}} to reduce coding a lot but there is no need to convert it now. The name parameter must match the page name to make correct V T E links. You currently have name = Ballot measures in the United States which is a better name anyway so it would be Template:Ballot measures in the United States, but I suggest the shorter Template:US ballot measures. The parameter is not shown to readers. I see you have implemented a state parameter. You can document it and add some categories with:

<noinclude>
{{Documentation|content=
{{Collapsible option}}
}}
[[Category:United States government navigational boxes|Ballot measures]]
[[Category:United States election templates|Ballot measures]]
</noinclude>

<noinclude> starts right after }} on the same line. We prefer to avoid redirects in navigation templates because we want a bold selflink when the template is transcluded on the article itself. You currently have redirects for Alaska, Michigan, District of Columbia. I use User:BrandonXLF/GreenRedirects to make it easy to spot. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:16, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for these detailed instructions! I'll make sure to make those changes before actually creating the page :) ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)^{Talk to Me!} 19:22, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia desktop version in English has a bad visualization, as the text compasses the whole screen, unlike other websites whre the text is more centralized in order to provide a better and a more pleasant reading. I entered wikipedia in Portuguese (usually I only use it in English) and it has this visualisation which is better for reading. Why not in English? 177.133.140.98 (talk) 17:45, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Portuguese Wikipedia has chosen to use the Vector 2022 skin by default. English Wikipedia has not made that decision yet. Seems that opinions on whether Vector 2022 is better or not remain divided. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 18:00, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you create an account then you can choose Vector 2022 and many other things at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering, or Special:GlobalPreferences#mw-prefsection-rendering to apply to all Wikipedia languages and Wikimedia wikis. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:36, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Or you could just reduce the size of the browser's window (assuming you're on an OS that uses them). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 5.64.163.219 (talk) 10:32, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying to create an article on the 1985 video game "Final Legacy". When I try, it tells me the page cannot be created. This is odd; my last attempt to create a new page went to Draft, which was quickly approved, but this time I do not see that option. Is there anything special in this case, and how do I create the article? 108.168.93.43 (talk) 20:07, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You can create such a draft at Draft:Final Legacy. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:58, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, but why did this happen? Previous article perhaps? 108.168.93.43 (talk) 13:25, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see no obvious problems at Final Legacy or Final legacy, if there were some sort of "blocks" it should be seen at those redlinks. Did you try some other title-version? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:57, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Aren't IP addresses disallowed from creating articles in mainspace? I believe the right is only reserved for any registered user that's autoconfirmed. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:47, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That could be it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:19, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

IP addresses can't create directly into mainspace. It has been like that for a few years now. Depending on when you made it, you may have been able to do it previously, however, you did say that you created a draft before, so there's no change. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:35, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to create another new article today, MK5056, and the same behaviour occurred. Once again there was no offer to create it in draftspace. I checked the logs and there is no previous article under this name or any other reason I can see. @Lee Vilenski: I'm not sure I understand your last comment... perhaps this: I created a draft for a different article, Atari Word Processor. I did so by typing in that term to search, which took me to the "no article" page, which included a link to create it in draftspace using the wizard. In this case, and MK5056 this morning, when I did precisely the same thing, no offer to create it in draft appeared. I was simply not able to create it, period. I am trying to understand why this is happening, why I do not see the draftspace link in these cases but do in others. 108.168.93.43 (talk) 14:32, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I saw the link you are referring to on both items, you aren't editing on mobile per chance? This message doesn't appear on that type of browser for whatever reason.Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:36, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lee Vilenski: Nope, not mobile, desktop. Playing about a bit, I used the same search bar for "articles for creation" and was taken to a page that did include the link to the draft wizard. So then I searched for "Final Legacy" just now and also got the link. The issue appears to be modal, but I can't see the pattern. 108.168.93.43 (talk) 14:43, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ahhh, if you SEARCH for the topic you get the wizard, if you CLICK on the topic (like in a redlink) you do not. That is rather bad UI. Where's the suggestions box? 108.168.93.43 (talk) 14:44, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We have several, Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) could be worth trying, though this may be a MediaWiki thing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:36, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can my firm hire someone to submit corrections on our page? If yes, are there reputable firms that provide this service? There seems to be many that say they can do the job but who know who they are. 2603:7000:9803:D19A:B568:7926:7F:1207 (talk) 20:56, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello IP! You really shouldn't be attempting to do so as that would be considered paid editing. Most of the time if someone offers to edit an article for money it's a scam. If there are things you think should be corrected then submit an edit request on the relevant article's talk page and an editor will eventually come by and either implement the request, or decline it with a reasoning as to why. ― Blaze Wolf^Talk_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 21:08, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You may, but I would advise against it. Some of the firms offering a service may be legitimate, professional, and competent: many of them are scammers, preying on people who have the mistaken impression that Wikipedia is a place to promote yourself. None of them are in any way authorized or supported by Wikipedia, but as long as they follow Wikipedia's policies, they are permitted to work and to offer their services for hire. Whether you hire somebody, or your employees do it, they must declare their status as "paid editors".

What I would recommend is

1. one or more of your employees create accoumts (all accounts must be individual, and their names must not suggest that they represent an organization. But "Jackie at XYZ.com" would be acceptable. Or they could just use their real names, or pseudonyms).
2. They read WP:PAID carefullu, and make the mandatory disclosures.
3. They use the Edit request mechanism to request changes to the article. They should be as precise in their requests as possible (eg "Add the following text after XXX" or "Replace the sentence XXXX by YYYY", and give references - independent if possible - for any information they wish to insert.
4. Recognize that the article does not belong to you, and Wikipedia is not interested in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources.

ColinFine (talk) 21:13, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for this valuable advice 2603:7000:9803:D19A:B568:7926:7F:1207 (talk) 15:19, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I just stumbled on a mention of the director Scott Hicks that had not been wikilinked (it was the only mention in the article) and wondered if there are more elsewhere. Is there a way to find them ? Doug butler (talk) 21:47, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug butler: "Scott Hicks" -linksto:"Scott Hicks (director)" gives 46 results. That's low enough to manually examine whether it's the right Scott Hicks. Otherwise you can try to refine the search with additional terms like director or film. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:14, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks PH. I was ignorant of that syntax — it worked perfectly. Doug butler (talk) 00:01, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Two articles: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of compositions by Matthew de Lacey Davidson and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Matthew de Lacey Davidson were recently closed as a result of delete. The linked compositions Quartetto dell'Arte, Symphony No. 1 in 20 keys ("Letter to the World"), and The Singing Lesson were created by the same editor. Since the composer and composition list are no longer deemed notable for inclusion; should each of these articles be put up for AfD? Each have been created by the same editor and any references are a clear COI due to primary sources. I cannot find notable performances or reviews. Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 21:49, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you think the notability of the article needs to be considered, put it up at AfD. Make sure to individually review each article - one composition may be more notable than another. Sungodtemple (talk) 22:06, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

At the top of Atmospheric methane, there has been a "This article's factual accuracy may be compromised due to out-of-date information" box since February 2020. The link to the talk page leads nowhere, because the relevant discussion has been archived. Surely if the banner is still relevant then the discussion isn't ready to be moved to the archive. How are cases like this supposed to be handled? Renerpho (talk) 22:29, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Renerpho. Archiving of talk pages is usually done automatically on the basis of the age of the entry. It is easy enough to find the title of the section ("Preindustrial CH4 indicates greater anthropogenic fossil CH4 emissions") from the link, and then search the archives of the talk page. But in fact Talk:Atmospheric methane has only one archive, so it is easier to go straight to it, and find Talk:Atmospheric methane/Archive 1#Preindustrial CH4 indicates greater anthropogenic fossil CH4 emissions, where you will see that there was just one reply, on the same day as the original post, pointing out that the issue is mentioned in another article (Methane). ColinFine (talk) 11:32, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any way (via some template magic or...?) to omit long repetitive base URL fragments from links to specific page numbers of an internet archive book?

At the article golden ratio I added a bunch of specific page links to the internet archive scan of a book by Livio. The markup for these citation footnotes was previously {{sfn|Livio|2002|pp=7–8}} and now looks like {{sfn|Livio|2002|pp=[https://archive.org/details/goldenratiostory00livi/page/7 7–8]}}. Having the specific links to cited pages seems like a valuable service to readers (makes it much easier to follow citations to the source), but having to clutter up every link with the repetitive https://archive.org.../page/ part does a disservice to editors or source readers, and is annoying to write.

Has anyone ever thought of designing a template such that we could put a base part of a URL like this one time on the page, and then refer to it with some shortcut? Perhaps a fork of the sfn template could slurp that base URL from some (hidden) parameter of the referenced citation template, and then combine it with a parameter of the footnote template including the extra portion of the URL to append? –jacobolus (t) 22:41, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When I entered my name as a descendant of Rev. Ralph Wheelock, it saved as a "link." I want to know how to remove the link while retaining the name. Jonilight3 (talk) 23:29, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Jonilight3, from your edits I think you are using the visual editor. Technically, to remove a link, click on it and press the button that has a link with a line through it.

From a policy point of view, your name should not be added to the list, nor should the list even exist, because it is irrelevant information. Listing distant descendants of a person is an unproductive task. For example, take Genghis Khan. He has millions of living and nonliving descendants, many of whom have Wikipedia articles. This sort of content falls under WP:NOTDATABASE. Sungodtemple (talk) 23:48, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

November 8

Hello,

Someone uploaded an image for Alex Prager without our consent here. How do we go about changing the image?

Thanks! Alex Prager Studio Bvpicts (talk) 00:29, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do you own the copyright to that photo? AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:36, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Bvpicts: The file you removed (File:Alex Prager in 2022 02.jpg) actually seems OK for Wikipedia purposes since it appears to have been uploaded by the person who actually took the photo. Are you claiming that this photo wasn't taken by its uploader Cmichel67. On the other hand, the file you uploaded (File:BTS Alex Prager TabithaDenholm.jpeg) has some issues that need to be resolved in order for it to avoid deletion. Do you mean c:COM:CONSENT when you say that the first photo was uploaded without our consent? That's really the only "consent" that matters when it comes to photo copyright matters and Wikipedia (Wikimedia Commons), and it would only matter if you (or whomever is "our") actually owns the copyright on the photo; otherwise, your "consent" isn't really needed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:02, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I uploaded BTS Alex Prager TabithaDenholm.jpeg because the artist does not want Cmichel67 image on her page. We own the rights to the BTS Alex Prager TabithaDenholm.jpeg as we took it. This image is ©ALEX PRAGER and Courtesy of Alex Prager. Please let me know how to add the information so that it is not deleted. Thanks! Bvpicts (talk) 01:16, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

While we may possibly take what Prager 'wants' into consideration, neither she, nor anyone representing her is required to 'consent' to Wikipedia using a properly-licensed photo of her. As for the new image, it is unclear under what license it has been released. You need to rectify that. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:19, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

...regarding the above, the image has to be released to a suitable free license, which means that the image can be copied, edited, and reused by anyone, including for commercial use. are you willing to release your works as such? if not, the image will be reverted back to the previous one used and your image will be deleted, since we do not accept copyrighted material (even when wikipedia has a license to use it) unless it is free content. for more on this, please read Donating copyrighted material. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 01:31, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Bvpicts: Please stop removing the speedy deletion template I've added to the file's page. I've posted a more detailed message on your user talk page explaining what needs to be done in order for the file to avoid deletion. If you continue to remove the template without addressing the relevant issue in accordance with relevant Wikipedia policy, then not only will the file end up deleted but your account will likely end up being WP:BLOCKed by an WP:ADMINISTRATOR for edit warring. If you read what I posted and have any questions, feel free to ask them on your user talk page and I will be happy to try and help you sort this out. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:35, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you are in any way employed as part of Alex Prager Studio, then you are in breach of Wikipedia's terms of service by editing the article without making the mandatory declarations as a paid editor. I have tagged Alex Prager as having been edited for payment. In any case, please study carefully the policies on editing with a conflict of interest, and do not make any further direct edits to the article: use edit requests instead. ColinFine (talk) 13:41, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As of the last month, or so, I am continually being delayed in my private research when using Wikipedia. These delays include "Captha" error messages (often with no image to `verify') as well, when using Wikipedia links to latitude-longitude coordinates with ACME Maps, it does not allow me delete old `Marks', add new `Mark"; or view list of `Marks'. Why is this happening? Is it because I often work online or up to 16 hours at a time? My research is important to me and keeps my mind stable (since 1979). My research is listed as the `Northern Shipwrecks Database' under the name `Northern Maritime Research' (www.NorthernMaritimeResearch.com) How can these interruptions be stopped? 24.68.26.58 (talk) 06:54, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

if you are using wikipedia for research, there should be no captchas or Marks, just you viewing a wikipedia article. i don’t get it at all. lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 07:16, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"private research" sounds like reading but if you refer to editing Wikipedia then you can avoid captchas by creating an account and becoming autoconfirmed. Coordinates in Wikipedia usually link to pages like [1] but the listed services are external including ACME Mapper. I don't have experience with it and we don't control it but maybe you can get help at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:09, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Are these Capthas appearing on Wikipedia or on the ACME maps website? It sounds to me like the latter, in which case you will need to ask ACME maps for help. 163.1.15.238 (talk) 12:12, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

your use of the term conspiracy theory is annoying 2A02:8084:42C1:2380:A8BA:5430:22CB:960D (talk) 07:06, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

where? lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 07:17, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I value the random page search every morning (10 minutes worth) because it occasionally finds a subject which interests me and so extends my knowledge. However and naturally, many pages which are found have no interest to me. Particularly biographies and 'places of interest'. Is there any way that I could exclude such 'hits'. Thank you in advance of your consideration.

Brian Jaques 2A00:23C6:B60E:7801:B02F:277:A486:3D89 (talk) 11:57, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

that is not possible. lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 12:01, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You could try Special:RandomInCategory to find random pages in categories which interest you, but I don't know of any easy way to exclude certain classes of pages. 163.1.15.238 (talk) 12:08, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting idea! The information and tools to do this are all available in Wikidata, but turning it all into a simple one-click interface would be a challenge. Wikidata is a database with structured information about many things, specifically including Wikipedia articles. To use it effectively, you need to learn some basic stuff about relational databases, and some simple stuff about its query language. I'm not sure it has a "random" function, so you might want to just create a big list of suitable articles, then randomize the big list and break it into 365 daily lists, once a year. -Arch dude (talk) 15:09, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Using a link provided above, I created a draft for Final Legacy. At no time during this process was I given instructions on how to submit it. I think this information should be presented on every screen, but a better solution would be a button to add the text that appears on all drafts. 108.168.93.43 (talk) 13:38, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

people using the wikipedia:article wizard would see a button to submit their draft. lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 13:41, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I could not use the wizard, as noted in the thread above (find on "final"). I think these instructions/button should always be visible in draft pages. 108.168.93.43 (talk) 17:15, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not all drafts need to go through Articles for Creation although those written by IP editors and new accounts do. It is perfectly acceptable for experienced editors to move drafts to mainspace directly, without any need for instructions or buttons. Cullen328 (talk) 21:07, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If a new article is posted to draft by an IP editor, and no AFC subst is added, is there a formal process that will get it reviewed and move it to main page? From my experience, such articles will not be visited and will eventually be culled. Is my experience unusual? 108.168.93.43 (talk) 13:40, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

that's normal. lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 13:42, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This article has recently been massively expanded by another editor (creating a whole raft of issues in itself), but my question relates to the inordinate amount of whitespace that now appears, between the text and the References section, which seems to be a failure relating to the "Footnotes" template somewhere along the line. Can someone who knows what they are doing (i.e. not me) try to sort this out? Thanks. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:03, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ghmyrtle I added a {{clear}} template which fixed the white space. I have no comment on the other issues, which you can take up on the Talk Page of the article. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:16, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to find what REALLY links to an article, and when 'What links here' gave me far too many, I realized that the TRANSclude feature of wiki may be getting in the way.

Trying "Hide transclusions" didn't seem to help, but in my looing around I found '[2]' but I don't think I know how to make it operate, or at least the pink-colored "Code that you insert" atop the .JS made me think it's time to admit I need to ask at HELP DESK. Can you point me to something already documented/semi-cookbook style (This help question is long enough; I don't want to have someone write something just for my benefit, at least unless it can be repackaged for future use). Nuts240 (talk) 16:05, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Nuts240: The pink box at Special:MyPage/common.js is a standard warning. Most editors probably ignore it and add any useful sounding script from random users. If it makes you more comfortable running my code, I'm an administrator here and User:PrimeHunter/Source links.js can only be edited by myself and interface administrators. I don't promise my JavaScript is always correct but it's not malicious. Just create Special:MyPage/common.js with this code:

importScript('User:PrimeHunter/Source links.js'); // Linkback: [[User:PrimeHunter/Source links.js]]

PrimeHunter (talk) 17:00, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to add The above persons membership to the Athenaeum Club to the topic The source is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Athenaeum_Club_members and am unable to do so. ADVICE NEEDED. Davekgautier (talk) 16:55, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You cannot reference Wikipedia but you could reference the original source for the content namely https://web.archive.org/web/20111030112314/http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/8857428/Sir-Jimmy-Savile.html Theroadislong (talk) 17:00, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Davekgautier: the page Jimmy Savile is semi-protected. You can post your proposed addition (be specific with exact wording) on the article's talk page. ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 16:30, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why can't t Wikipedia play videos like 30min videos — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.113.235.212 (talk) 17:56, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It can. For example, Cabiria is two hours long. But modern videos are copyrighted of course so we cannot host them. Shantavira|^{feed me} 18:17, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:YOUTUBE. Generally speaking though, Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons are not video hosting sites and most video clips are fairly short.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:24, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi - I previously posted under user name tscud. I don't know the password and I think it connected to an expired email address. Is there any way you could help me regain access - or should I just create a new user name?

Thanks 76.93.175.79 (talk) 20:31, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If your email is inaccessible/expired, you will need to create a new account and identify it as a successor account to your old account("I am User1234, I was previously User 5678"). 331dot (talk) 20:35, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - I will do that. 76.93.175.79 (talk) 20:24, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

User:Tscud has stored an email adress in the account (this is optional) but we don't have access to it. Passwords never expire but the account hasn't edited since 2009. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:14, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

November 9

I'm trying to show the name of the language when using the lang template. How can I do it? The text is Grupo de Apoyo Mutuo and I'm using for it the following wikitext: {{lang|es|italic=no|[[Grupo de Apoyo Mutuo]]}}. Cheers! Thinker78 (talk) 00:22, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

{{lang-es|italic=no|[[Grupo de Apoyo Mutuo]]}} → Spanish: Grupo de Apoyo Mutuo

—Trappist the monk (talk) 00:24, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Thinker78 (talk) 00:34, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Thinker78 if you intend to write "Spanish: Grupo de Apoyo Mutuo", then you should remove "italic=no" to conform with MOS:FOREIGNITALIC; so Spanish: Grupo de Apoyo Mutuo. Bazza (talk) 09:50, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Bazza 7, per your mentioned guideline, "Names of organizations and institutions should not be in italics, unless the context would otherwise require it". Cheers! Thinker78 (talk) 00:28, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Thinker78 The full text of that guideline states "Names of organizations and institutions should not be in italics, unless the context would otherwise require it, as upon first usage in an article about the organization.", which is what I was referring to. I can't think of any other time you'd want to include the language name, as the OP originally asked. Bazza (talk) 13:58, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Bazza 7 why do you think the context requires italics in this case? Thinker78 (talk) 18:32, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Thinker78 I don't know why you want to precede the foreign language phrase with the language's name. Most articles which contain this construct have it at the start of the article when a term is being defined in a language other than English, so meeting MOS:FOREIGNITALIC's requirement to use italics; see English Channel for an example. As I suggested before, I can't think of why else you require the Spanish text in "Spanish: Grupo de Apoyo Mutuo" to not be in italics, although you may have a requirement I'm unaware of. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bazza 7 (talk • contribs) 18:56, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Bazza 7 sorry, but I got lost a little bit. I didn't get your answer about why do you think in this case Grupo de Apoyo Mutuo requires italics. You did mention the guideline before and we had an interaction. Can you provide a more specific and elaborate rationale why you think it needs to be in italics? I suggest to focus on other items only after we clarify this, to avoid confusion. Cheers! Thinker78 (talk) 19:15, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted the last two edits by 70.23.210.239. [3] I don't know enough about the relative prevalence of COVID in the States to determine if the edit to Rise Up New York! should also be reverted. 76.14.122.5 (talk) 02:04, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That edit removed material which was later re-added in a slightly revised form by an experienced editor, so it should be fine, thanks. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:58, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is Matt Van Buren. I retired in 2018. How do I update that on my page? 167.89.203.252 (talk) 03:32, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

log in and add {{retired}} at the top of your user page. lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 03:56, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Lettherebedarklight: I think you've misunderstood. I took this to mean this person is Matt Van Buren, an MMA fiughter who hasn't fought since 2017.

To answer the IPs question, all Wikipedia content is meant to be based on coverage in reliable sources. If a reliable source has reported on your retirement, any user can add that information to the article. Beeblebrox (talk) 03:59, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

yeah, i'm definitely wrong. lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 13:03, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Matt, thanks for asking first, WP prefers that you don't edit the article directly yourself. We need something acceptable to source "retired" to (per our WP:BLP rules). In this particular case, a WP:ABOUTSELF source like your Facebook (it has the blue checkmark) would work, so if you add something like "Retired from mma in 2018" at say [4], that should be usable. If you do, mention it here or on my talkpage and hopefully someone will take care of it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:32, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Matt! You should also be able to use the Wikipedia:Edit Request Wizard to ask for assistance. Enjoy your retirement! GoingBatty (talk) 19:13, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The two most recent college basketball seasons with independent teams are Category:2014–15 NCAA Division I men's basketball independents season and Category:2022–23 NCAA Division I men's basketball independents season. But since they're 7 seasons apart, when you go to those two categories, it's not possible to easily navigate between them via {{navseasoncats}} at the top. Is there a way to modify {{navseasoncats}} in each of those cats to make the succeeding / preceding NCAA independents season category appear?

I hope this question makes sense, it was difficult to describe. SportsGuy789 (talk) 04:47, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@SportsGuy789: I don't know what is expected for the future but you can use {{Irregular navseasoncats}} like below. PrimeHunter (talk) 06:22, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That worked, thank you! SportsGuy789 (talk) 14:02, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying to add a redirect for MK5056. Following the pattern I saw yesterday, I am not allowed to do so, and there is no offer to make a draft.

1) what is special about this page that a draft is not being offered? There is no entry in the deletion log and no other reason I can see. 2) as this is a redirect, a draft is not appropriate. What can I do?

108.168.93.43 (talk) 13:33, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

you can request it at WP:AFC/R. lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 13:35, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed on (2), but I am trying to understand why this is occurring. See the thread above. 108.168.93.43 (talk) 14:35, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As noted above, the difference is that if you click on a redlink you will not get the offer for the wizard, if you search for it you do. 108.168.93.43 (talk) 14:45, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have edited some topics and tried to propose a page. The page was denied and I don't know why. The person who denied it is no longer available to explain why it was denied or what else I can do to establish a page.

Is ther anyone that can help? Thank you, Laura LGOWA (talk) 14:20, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What topic was it, and where did you propose it? On articles for creation or something similar? 108.168.93.43 (talk) 14:39, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I believe they're talking about their now-deleted sandbox page. @LGOWA, Wikipedia is not a place for chronicling processes - it is not meant to be a "How to" guide, but a collection of encyclopedia articles which summarize what reliable sources have said about notable subjects. I can't see the content of the deleted page, but it sounds like this may've been the issue. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 14:49, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is, possibly, a copy of the deleted material at User talk:LGOWA/sandbox. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 14:51, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. A summary of what reliable sources have said about "integrated tactical planning" might be viable as an encyclopaedia article. An account of your experience, however valuable it might be, is not appropriate for Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 14:55, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@LGOWA Also, User:LGOWA/sandbox shows that the page was deleted by Jimfbleak. I don't understand why you said "The person who denied it is no longer available", as the user has made other edits to Wikipedia on November 9 and 10. GoingBatty (talk) 19:10, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi..trying to insert a thumbnail photo in an infobox and in preview it displays: File:BarryforWikipedia.jpg in red rather than the image. The article is "Colleen Barry" What am I doing wrong? Thank you. Brooksjim (talk) 15:43, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Brooksjim, the file is File:Barry for Wikipedia.jpg. The spaces are important. Please remember to declare any COI you may have with this subject. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 15:53, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Brooksjim, you have restored promotional wording which I removed from the article, and you have not declared what seems to be an evident COI. I have left a warning on your talk page and started a discussion on the article's talk page. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 19:31, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi..I tried to declare the evident COI but saw no means for doing it. I previously declared a COI when I attempted to post a page for the school here at Cornell so I understand the concept, not the execution. I restored the wording because I didn't realize the scope of the edits, that another person was involved, and because it had, I believe, previously been approved. Again, operator error (me). My updates only concerned adding detail regarding years, and a thumbnail photo. The edits were minor and left the wording untouched. I'm happy to backtrack and take whatever steps are necessary. Thank you. Brooksjim (talk) 19:31, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Brooksjim, I've left a follow-up message on your talk page about the disclosure requirements. Please consider using {{edit request}}s (or the Edit Request Wizard if you find that easier) to suggest edits via the talk page in the future, as our COI policy strongly suggests. I see you're aware that the images are being considered for deletion; there seem to be some issues with their copyright status, and some odd exif data on the second one. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 21:59, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Brooksjim. I just have three comments. Number one is that infobox images generally should not be formatted as thumbnails as explained in WP:IBI. Since most infoboxes have set up to automatically size the main image so that it can be seen accessed by most devices, there's no need to use a thumbnail-type markup for size purposes. In addition, since most infoboxes have a |caption= parameter for images, there's no need to use a thumbnail-type markup for caption purposes. Number two is that you should carefully read through WP:COI and WP:PSCOI if you're personally or professional connected to Barry and do your utmost to follow guidance given on those pages. Lastly, number three is that you should read c:COM:Own work and make sure any files you upload to Commons are really your "own work". Generally, the copyright of a photo is "owned" by the person who takes it, and only the copyright holder of a photo can claim it as their "own work" and give their c:COM:CONSENT. The subject of a photo doesn't typically own it's copyright unless it has been transferred to them. So, if you didn't take the Barry photo and you want to use it on Wikipedia, you will need to find out who took it and get their consent. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:23, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just adding that I fixed the thumbnail-in-infobox issue when I was tidying the article, so that's not an issue which still needs to be resolved, but it's good information to have for the future. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 22:31, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why isn't the recapture code working so I can publish some edits? I type it in exactly as it looks, but it makes no difference! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C6:2A12:6D01:39B7:9553:27FB:FE2D (talk) 21:57, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like you're editing on mobile. There seem to be issues with the captcha not working on one or more of the mobile apps. 199.208.172.35 (talk) 22:31, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For IP addresses that are used by many people, is there some sort of template that can be placed on the talk page? I don't think I've ever seen anything like that, but someone just asked me to place one. Roundish ⋆tc) 23:45, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

{{SharedIP}} or one of its brethren is likely your best bet. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 23:47, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! --Roundish ⋆tc) 23:50, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

November 10

Can this be done? Search a specific user's contributions by article? I don't see the point in having a "Search options" box in users' contrbutions pages, if it won't allow us to specify the article in which we want to see if the user made an edit in (? I don't get it. - Joaquin89uy (talk) 01:46, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please discuss this on Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab). ██ Dentsinhere43 is a new Wikipedian. 03:24, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Joaquin89uy: If you want to find edits by a specific user to a specific page then click "Find edits by user" at top of the page history. It can show 500 at a time so it would take a while to get my 14876 edits to this help desk. Damn, I have been here a lot. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:00, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh thats it. Thank you @PrimeHunter.

And @Dentsinhere43, yeah, maybe later I could throw that in there, at that forum link you gave me. Thanks. - Joaquin89uy (talk) 11:23, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Xtools gives you a full list of amount of edits for a specific user to all articles, (see mine for example) Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:21, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I was trying to cite this working paper

https://business-school.exeter.ac.uk/documents/papers/accounting/2004/0406.pdf

But it errors "{{cite web}}: line feed character in |title= at position 69"

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Matchgirls%27_strike&veaction=edit&section=1

I took out/replaced all the spaces and I still get the error

I found this, but it doesn't help

Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 37

(It has additional information to the published paper)

Arnold, A. J. 2011. “‘Out of Light a Little Profit’? Returns to Capital at Bryant and May, 1884-1927.” BUSINESS HISTORY, January 1. https://search.ebscohost.com/login.aspx?direct=true&db=edsbl&AN=RN295522572&site=eds-live&scope=site.

thanks in advance, Wakelamp d[@-@]b (talk) 02:31, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wakelamp. It looks like you copied and pasted parts of that citation from some other website. Sometimes when you do such a thing, some characters are added as full-width characters instead of half-width characters. In this case, it looks like one spaces between the words was a full-width space which seem to be causing the citation syntax to treat it as a line break. At least that's what I'm guessing the problem might've since I seem to have resolved the issue by tweaking some of the syntax. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:14, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank-you very very much for fixing - I was fiddling with it for ages. (And for introducing me to half/full width fonts!) When I copy from a website, should I be using an add-in in Chrome, or is there a particular citation style that is safer? Wakelamp d[@-@]b (talk) 06:59, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, I'm not sure why such a thing happens with some websites or devices and not with others. I notice it lot when editing from my smart-phone since full-width seems to be the default setting. I believe there's a way to change things so that it isn't, but it doesn't bother me all that much. It's also something that's not immediately noticeable to most people unless they're specifically looking for it. It's easy to notice if you're using the source version of the editing window (not sure about the visual editor version) since things like appostrophes and quotation marks tend to stand out because it looks like they are double-spaced even though they really aren't. Probably the best thing to do for citations would be to just use the "Show preview" button to check for issues before hitting the "Publish changes" button. If you see a citation error notification like before, just go back and check for any full-width characters or spaces, or odd characters. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:22, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

One other thing I notice about that article is that the syntax for some of the files being used contains empty MOS:UPRIGHT parameters (i.e. there are no scaling factors being provided). Typically, this isn't really a good thing and has been deprecated; so, it would be better to assign a scaling factor value to said parameters if they're going to be used. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:20, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there, i am trying to publish information on myself on Wikipedia. Can you help me? FehmiMurat (talk) 04:10, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@FehmiMurat: Please read the advice at WP:AUTO. It is strongly discouraged. RudolfRed (talk) 04:24, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, FehmiMurat. What you wrote was not acceptable on Wikipedia for many reasons. Please read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY and Your first article. Self-promotion is not permitted on Wikipedia. Cullen328 (talk) 04:26, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have noticed some vandalism at And That's Why We Drink. Namely, an anonymous user keeps going into the page and changing the hosts name from Em to Emothy, which is not the host's name. This is a silly inside joke of the podcast, and the host has mentioned they are upset by it on Instagram. Would an editor please assist me with fixing it? Thank you, 2603:8001:CA41:6C00:A091:3FA3:7AEC:164C (talk) 05:25, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed for now but we need to be vigilant it doesn't happen again. The sources are clear on the correct name. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:47, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm under the impression that both of these articles, Activstudio and Activprimary could be nominated for deletion under G11. Activstudio was written by the supposed developer of both programs and the Activprimary article seems to be almost a direct copy of the Activstudio article with minor changes. both articles are entirely written like advertisements and seem to be at a point where they would need to be entirely rewritten to not look like such.

however, I'm not sure how to go about things as I've never really dealt with how to delete an article before. some assistance would be very appreciated. atmxwl ^☿ 12:22, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@atmxwl: if you wish to request speedy deletion under g11, put {{db-g11}} on top of the page. lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 13:19, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Note: Both articles have been deleted. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:27, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To whom it may concern,

Can some one give me some direction in how to get our company description factually listed to appear within Wikipedia ?

Thank you, Recyclingbin.com

Scott R. Gardner Scott R. Gardner (talk) 15:16, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Scott R. Gardner We can't, because that's not what Wikipedia does. You seem to have a common misunderstanding about Wikipedia; it is not a directory where mere existence warrant inclusion, and merely documenting such existence is sufficient. This is an encyclopedia with criteria for inclusion, called notability, such as a notable company. An article must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage choose on their own to say about a company and why it is significant- not what a company wants to say about itself or things like press releases, announcements, or interviews. Please see Your First Article. The vast majority of companies do not merit articles. If your company does truly merit an article, ideally you or anyone associated with you should not be the one to write it.

You will also need to read about conflict of interest and paid editing(which includes employment) for informationon required formal disclosures. 331dot (talk) 15:20, 10 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

November 11

I'm not saying it should be allowed or bannable, but because I am a bit of a noob, I might be asking a stupid question. Is it allowed though?

Update: Alright, thanks for letting me know. I'll also use the teahouse next time, since I am technically a newbie

Signed, MrDragonBoi (talk) 09:07, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@MrDragonBoi: Yes, this is allowed; see WP:OWNTALK. -- John of Reading (talk) 09:15, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In Mani article, the first line says that Mani is a bass player from the band the stone roses. Is this some kind of fun? Please remove it. 27.147.243.175 (talk) 12:00, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Courtesy link: Mani (musician) 💜  melecie  talk - 12:13, 11 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]