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[[Image:FremantleMarkets1 gobeirne.jpg|100px|right|Fruit & Veg area of Fremantle markets]]
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*...that [[Fremantle Markets]] fruit and vegetable area after being damaged by a fire in 1992 was rebuilt using [[recycle]]d materials.. created by [[User:Gobeirne]] I put hits hook up at [[T:TDYK]] [[User:Gnangarra|Gnan]][[User_talk:Gnangarra|garra]] 01:47, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
*...that [[Fremantle Markets]] fruit and vegetable area after being damaged by a fire in 1992 was rebuilt using [[recycle]]d materials.. created by [[User:Gobeirne]] I put hits hook up at [[T:TDYK]] [[User:Gnangarra|Gnan]][[User_talk:Gnangarra|garra]] 01:47, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

== East Perth railway station ==

Hey guys, it's been a while.
I notice that on the templates for Perth railway stations that all of the the links to East Perth station link to [[East Perth railway station, Perth]]; this is only a redirect to [[East Perth railway station]]. I've tried to correct this, but because of the complex s-line templates that the articles now use I can't figure out how. Can anyone fix this please? --'''[[User:M Johnson|<font color = "darkblue">M</font>]] [[User Talk:M Johnson|<font color = "darkgreen">W</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/M Johnson|<font color = "darkyellow">Johnson</font>]]''' 01:55, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

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Perth Streets - an opinion

I recently received this message on my talk page after asking SatuSuro if he could provide a reference for the information he added to Forrest Place. Some interesting ideas are brought up, and I thought you guys might want to comment. Thanks, --Ali K 14:15, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Hi Ali, thanks for the message. I was accidentally cruising the Perth Street entries on Perth Stubs. I will refrain what I think of most of the entries. Someone needs to set a much higher standard - if not a template example- just compare St Geos Tce with Murray St and Forrest Place - As for the Forrest Place entry, refs are the last thing I am thinking of when I check the other streets, the inconsistency and mess is more important to cleanup at this stage, it's as though they are not in the same city. One: someone needs to do a template map of the cbd. Two: someone needs to check books rather than links to web pages with almost irrelevent info. There is a very strong need for a very strong editorial broom through the weird and wonderful collection of Perth Stubs. Unfortunately I have neither the time at the moment, or the sufficient sense of humour to cope with issues that will no doubt arise. Maybe someone else will take up the call. Refs later, consistency and thinks to tie it all together like a map or box for each entry.SatuSuro 13:58, 15 July 2006 (UTC)"

I personally don't think we need to get too anal about articles about streets. Two to four paragraphs should suffice in most cases. I do feel strongly however that we don't include meaningless lists of "attractions" and every building and church that's situated on them. Perhaps a good place to start is some good existing articles which we can use as references. A few I like are Queen Street, Melbourne, Elizabeth Street, Sydney and best of all Rundle Street, Adelaide. These are about the size and scope I feel comfortable with. George Street, Sydney is too big - I'd drop the attractions section. -- I@ntalk 15:10, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If we need a sort of sharing of opinions, the quotes from above - queen Street and elizabeth street are too skeletal to serve purpose, I agree with Rundle, but I think there is a place for a shorter attractions on George Street - having walked it many times, and understanding its context historically I would vigorously defend the attractions section. SatuSuro 15:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

use of clarifier (xxx ,Western Australia)

I came across this article Perth Airport, its on a redirect from Perth Airport, Western Australia. Places using "Perth" like this should have the clarifier(DAB) added in every case, with redirects coming from the general title. When other Perths add articles the rediect page can become a DAB page. Gnangarra 16:17, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why? Unless it is a seperate suburb as well as an airport, there's really no need. Rebecca 03:18, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There a wider discussion about standardising naming conventions to Australian article taking place at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Australian_places#Lakes.2C_rivers_and_mountains.. please participate there. The concensus reached there will set the requirements for this article anyway. Gnangarra
FYI, Perth Airport is a landmark and Perth Airport, Western Australia is a suburb, and M Johnson made a redirect to the Perth Airport landmark article. However, I think it is necessary to make a seperate article for the Perth Airport, Western Australia, please see also the Newburn, Western Australia article.--Shinjiman 05:53, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have seen several supermarkets have a "Buy WA First" label for some products, and anyone knows how this was introduced? thanks and regards. --Shinjiman 09:37, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Been around for a while - worth going to the WA Government page and trying search in there, probably a department of development or primary industry campaign - I think it has gone in varous forms for decades.SatuSuro 09:44, 30 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I remember TV ads for it in the 1980s, especially around the time of the America's Cup, complete with the little "birthmark" symbol. Orderinchaos 01:14, 16 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Native title

The Noongar federal court ruling should get a mention somewhere, Perth people are probably in the best position to decide where to put it. Thanks. --Peta 23:34, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

At the moment its more a news item, there is most likely going to be further court actions and legislative changes. if anything it warrants its own article. At the moment most of the available information is polarised scary mongering most notably from the real estate industry saying its going to prevent new housing developments and push land values up 20-30%pa until its resolved. Other stories are of access to beaches and rivers being block or restricted to non Noongar people. Besides the decision, mentions of probable appeals and the scary mongers/hysteria theres not enough good information available. Gnangarra 00:57, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
thinking aloud the wikiproject Australian law would be a better group to build this article as its more a court event. Gnangarra 01:05, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Incidentally any beach or park covered by a Town Planning Scheme is not vacant crown land. Therefore the beach at Scarborough and Trigg and a heap of other places would not be open to claim by native title. I think the change that will ultimately arise is that each individual group will have to claim each individual parcel of land within the scheme, and of course that only relates to native title (i.e. traditional usage) rights, it does not confer ownership. Just an opinion from a non-lawyer who has read Mabo and Wik and the native title act when studying about 10 years ago :) Orderinchaos 10:48, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
At the time of my reply that was a comment on the information generally available and that with such information being the mainstay of the details provided an article would develope into farce of misinformed information, that once correct infomation became available edit wars over such details could evlove. Its now subject to an apeal reason being in that the decision is different from those mentioned decisions as it conveys rights over resources, and the ability to restrict useage with requirements for portions to be reserved. Gnangarra 11:03, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've been cleaning this article up, I would appreciate some feed back and suggestion for further developement of the article. Thanks Gnangarra 08:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Project directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 16:29, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Western Australia's 100 most influential people"

(cross-posted at talk:History of Western Australia) The insert in todays West is good reading if you're interested. Wikipedia is quoted as one the references. — Moondyne 05:03, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Events that should be included

Red Bull Air Race Rally Australia —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Smbarnzy (talkcontribs) .

I struck out Rally Aust as there already an article Gnangarra 10:02, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is a Perth section at Red Bull Air Race World Series. Nachoman-au 11:21, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Red Bull Air Race has existed as a redirect to the above since 29 July 2006. Btw welcome Smbarnzy! Great to have more people on board here. Orderinchaos 01:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you are interested in the Red Bull Air Race, please join Wikipedia:WikiProject Red Bull Air Race World Series. Thanks--HamedogTalk|@ 08:20, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Swan Valley and the Caversham wine festivals? Music festivals are no doubt being added to the Perth Music article. Hopman Cup? where do we stop petedavo 11:27, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Western Australia

Am I the first to suggest that this project become for the whole state. Australia project is too focused on Eastern states and this one gets too detailed. It would also help in reaching consensus on a 'national gauge' re. general australian articles with t'othersiders. Fred.e 20:59, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think there's a good call to start a new one, rather than use this one. This one is and should be focused on the city and urban area of Perth. Not sure how to gauge support for such a move though? We have plenty of active WA Wikipedians including some admins and a lot has been moving in the last 2-3 months (I've been working on the Harvey-Waroona and Wheatbelt regions as well as Perth suburbs and some fringe Victorian areas that the Melbourne project have hung up to dry) Orderinchaos 23:20, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I would definately support WikiProject Western Australia! that is a great idea. I don't know how you would get the 'right' to do it though. But your idea is great in theory, and if you need support from me, you have it. Smbarnzy 01:20, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for comments. We can have both projects, silly of me to say change. As well! I'm sure if editors don't have 'right' we can ask an admin. If there is more support I'll lobby the ones I have found so far. There is a lot of WA pages that can be neatly linked together but I don't want to do to much without consensus. Templates coud improve lots areas, for instance, as they have already on this project. Fred.e 17:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You have the right; you don't have to ask anyone's permission. And I have no doubt the project will be well supported. It's just a matter of someone having the gumption to actually make it happen. Hesperian 22:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

From one who has suggested more projects than he could handle, its all a matter of focus, time, energy and commitment - just look at the australian history guy - clearly one obsessed - one way to go! SatuSuro 23:00, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perth Street Article Titles

Following a recent change - it is obvious a consensus is needed ( possibly with explanation of background - to refer to editors who might not have been part of the extensive issues in the formatting of names of places and things in australia in general) and a policy needs to be made about how Perth streets and article titles fit into the greater scheme of things before we have divergent title usage. SatuSuro 06:10, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Basically this is asking for a consensus for the restoration or addition to all Perth Street names in the CBD to be restored to xxxx, Perth - on the basis that all other capital cities in Australia use this convention, and the potential for confusion is not wanted.
I kinda agree though it should be applied to all metro area streets, including borderline cases like Thomas Road. Wellington and Hay street already need the qualifer anyway. Gnangarra 09:55, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

<-- (edit conflict)*Olive branch I think the bracket street (perth, western australia) convention is a lot cleaner. That also the reasoning for use at WP:Australian places. We also need to consider names like Queen st, Aberdeen st as I think it would be likely that our friends in Scotland will probably have those names. Gnangarra 11:26, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'm glad to see there's a good discussion going on this - what we all want is the best final result for WikiProject Perth, and there needs to be a balance between names which unnecessarily cause confusion in a worldwide encyclopaedia versus overly unwieldy names that start reading like a postal address. I don't necessarily think ", city name" is the most efficient, but state alone doesn't work if I ever get around to the Streets of Bunbury one (there's about five notables, including Stirling and Wittenoom Streets), while one of Kalgoorlie's most (in)famous is Hay Street. Curiously, the other Perth has a High Street something like our Hay Street Mall, while its other main CBD streets include South Street, King Street and Mill Street. The Tasmanian Perth is too small to have streets that need to be considered in this context, unless someone ever does an article on our now abolished Drummond Street (Leederville Parade). Melbourne, Launceston and Sydney (George Street no less)
So from all of this, what is to be done? I think the fact the other AU cities have reached a consensus should be considered but that we should be flexible enough to be able to cope with any oddities that may arise. i.e. more of a principle than a hard and fast rule. Orderinchaos 13:40, 3 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So what do people think should be the way we move forward on Perth street/road articles? Orderinchaos 00:35, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shopping Centres

I've just this morning located all the articles I could find on shopping centres in Perth and grouped them all into a master category. This has also been added as a sub-section to the main project page under Places. thewinchester 03:19, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I've also created a baseline template for articles in this segment that can be found at User:Thewinchester/Shopping_centre_base. thewinchester 09:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Fred.e has just created Wikipedia:WikiProject Western Australia. This will of course be aimed at coordinating and improving articles related to Western Australia, and fostering collaboration between Category:Wikipedians in Western Australia. The project is so brand spanking new that we haven't yet defined our goals or scope, let alone how we're going to achieve them. So this is your chance to be involved right from the start. Hesperian 10:29, 17 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone who wants to make it a better article..

I created the well needed article Fremantle Town Hall. If anyone has information they can add, it would be of great use! Thanks, --Ali K 07:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 20:16, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

FYI: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 January 3#Perth. Hesperian 23:08, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This change, proposed by a user for whom this is their only edit of any kind, proposes that every category with the word "Perth" in the title be disambiguated, when in many cases the categories will never exist for any other Perth and there's little to no risk of confusion. I am inclined to oppose in the strongest terms. (No point in replying to this message, reply to the Cfd as above.) Orderinchaos 01:23, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
To provide some balance to this discussion, I have supported the proposal. I consider the Scottish category Category:Natives of Perth to be absolutely unacceptable, so I can't expect my Scottish friends to be much in favour of the Western Australian Category:History of Perth. Hesperian 01:38, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If the two Perths cannot separate themselves honorably there will be problems - I suggest the Perth in scotland and perth in wa to have qualifiers in the category titles rather than disambigs -sooner than later - notability issues are rubbish - we're on diff sides of this much abused planet... SatuSuro 02:12, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Local Government Areas of Perth

And while we're on the subject, I would very much like to see this category obliterated. There are no local government areas of Perth; there are only local government areas of Western Australia that just happen to be in the Perth metropolitan area. How do people feel about me depopulating this into Category:Local Government Areas of Western Australia and deleting it? Hesperian 23:12, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The distinction is useful (and should be maintained) but I agree the above category name is not the way to achieve this. Perth metropolitan area is not a level of government and as such, government units cannot pertain to it. Orderinchaos 01:19, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Any ideas for an alternative?
Category:Local Government Areas of Western Australia in Perth?
Category:Local Government Areas in Perth, Western Australia?
Hesperian 01:41, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with the above two - Local government areas are throughout the state - the Metro area (including Perth ) is as you say not really a level of government. Looking through the WALGA website - the more important term is metropolitan. I think this stuff is trying to reinvent the wheel when there is all this stuff outside wikipedia that points to this term rather than what we are talking about SatuSuro 02:34, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
To update this - we came to an agreement to extinguish the category and upmerge a few days ago, as a template and list already provide the distinction I was seeking in my above comments. Orderinchaos 00:08, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

SFD notification

This message is to notify you that a stub template and category that is associated with this WikiProject ({{Perth-road-stub}} and ‹The template Category link is being considered for merging.› Category:Perth, Western Australia road stubs) is up for deletion at WP:SFD. Please join the discussion. Thanks. ~ Amalas rawr =^_^= 15:59, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

House values

The conversation has taken place in other forums as well, but I'm raising this specifically with regard to Perth. Is there a need for the housing value to be in each of the suburb articles? Reason I ask is that it has to be updated every 3 months, but updating 338 articles is actually quite a challenge, especially if the formatting on each article is not the same. I updated any marked (Q2 2006) to (Q3 2006) today. Orderinchaos 03:27, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd rather see an external link to someone else who can provide upto date current economic data, such as the WA Dept of Treasury and Finance http://www.dtf.wa.gov.au petedavo 11:31, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Similar WikiProjects

If you want to include a list of similar city WikiProjects, you can transclude the following page: Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/List of city WikiProjects. BlankVerse 13:30, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Improvements and feedback on Warwick railway station, Perth

This article has been bugging me for a few days since I saw the extremely poor state it's history section was in (only a single line). Since then I've given it a massive kick in the bum, and after collecting what I knew about the station and matching it up to information found at LISWA this afternoon, the section has been totally re-written from scratch including appropriate referencing and whatever else was warranted. If anyone has the time, i'd appreciate any feedback you'd feel like passing on -- Thewinchester (talk) 16:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ratings (Perth-importance=____)

I've rated the importance to WikiProject Perth (as opposed to Australia as a whole) of most suburbs, Transperth entities and local councils for the Perth project after this feature became available in March. Some differentiation was necessary - I ended up with the following schema:

Suburbs and LGAs

  • City of Perth, Perth, Fremantle, list of suburbs - Top
  • Armadale, Cannington, Claremont, Cottesloe, Guildford, Joondalup, Midland, Northbridge, Rockingham, Scarborough - High
  • Big councils - High
  • Key suburbs - Mid
  • Smaller councils - Mid
  • Everything else - Low

Transperth/PTA

  • Transperth and all railway lines, plus Perth railway station - High
  • Key railway stations (termini, Warwick/Whitfords/Stirling/Joondalup/Cannington), CircleRoute, all bus companies, the Busport - Mid
  • Other railway stations and any other transport articles - Low
  • Historic railway stuff - moved to WA Wikiproject.

This is quite arbitrary, so I'm happy to hear feedback, and in particular anything that anyone thinks has been incorrectly rated. If you see a Low suburb that definitely should be Mid, just rerate it yourself (note - only change the Perth-importance tag! All suburbs should be low on the "importance" tag except for our two top ones), but anything involving High and especially Top should go here for discussion. Orderinchaos 04:56, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Australian transport navbox consolidation

For the interest of WA editors, i've opened up discussion on AWNB on consolidation of Australia's transport navboxes. This has been prompted by the creation of yet another transport-related navbox this morning which has infested a number of Perth transport articles. Your thoughts and input on the matter before I go ahead with this would be appreciated. Thewinchester (talk) 04:23, 14 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Culture in WA

Hi all... I've just started editing under a username, I was previously known as all sorts of little number groups making small corrections to articles. I'm just dropping a note here regarding the Culture categories. I have created a new category "Culture in Western Australia" to house the cultural sections of the WA and Perth Wikipedia projects, as they all seemed to be floating around ekeing out their own separate existences and were thoroughly tangled! Also sorted out the 100% redundancy between "Media in Perth, Western Australia" and "Radio stations in Perth" - the latter seems a more logical place, and it is a subset of Media in Western Australia anyway. I also note the relative dearth of arts information, and am hoping to get something up on Artrage and FORM soon. If anyone has any suggestions or requests or ideas I'm all ears !

One final thing - "Perth, Western Australia culture" looks awkward and odd. I realise it started off as "Perth culture" and got renamed, but given we have to disambiguate the name maybe "Culture of Perth, Western Australia" would look better? If others agree maybe we can get it speedy renamed. Zivko85 11:52, 22 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome; it is good to have another someone interested in culture and the arts, as it is underappreciated here on Wikipedia. Category:Culture in Perth, Western Australia is a much better name. If you want to, create it and recategorise all the articles from Category:Perth, Western Australia culture, then let us know when the latter category is empty and one of us will delete it. Hesperian 00:34, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've performed the move and killed the old category (I followed "Culture by city" patterning in using "in" instead of "of"). Welcome to the project Zivko :) Orderinchaos 01:10, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Zivko has survived a talk page deluge from self - and is still going (!) - welcome and thanks for shaking the culture stuff up! cheers and welcome SatuSuro 06:27, 23 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Perth old railways (route maps)

Hi to all interested. Seeing that Thewinchester had added rail maps for the suburban lines. I have created rail maps for Eastern Railway, Upper Darling Range Railway and Mundaring Weir Branch Line. I hope that someone who has more knowledge in this area can double check the maps first for accuracy before they are added into the articles. If any corrections need to be made, you can mention them here, or you can have a try at editing the maps yourself using the resources from Wikipedia:Railway line template. 리지강.wa.au 21:05, 11 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Featured article review

Dear all, I've placed Hamersley, Western Australia for review. I would appreciate third party input into this rather than those attached to this article. Wikipedia:Featured article review/Hamersley, Western Australia Michellecrisp 07:43, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hamersley, Western Australia has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:05, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Transperth Line

There's a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Trains#Transperth boxes over a possible replacement for {{Transperth Line}} and associated templates. Best, Mackensen (talk) 15:01, 21 July 2007 (UTC) Most project members are probably out partying/asleep/ or offline at the moment this arrived - 11.00 pm saturday night - I have every intention of joining in there tommorow SatuSuro 15:10, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimania bid

The bids are about to close. Per [1], if anyone is of a different opinion to me that we are not ready to bid and wants to improve the bid to an acceptable standard (I'm inclined to support Melbourne in their bid at this stage), please fix it within 24 hours, or it will not be made official. I would hope that if this occurs, that the bid be of a professional standard that does our city proud. Orderinchaos 03:32, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Perth, W.A. article

Talk:Perth, Western Australia#GA_delisted SatuSuro 01:08, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Parliament House

Parliament House, Perth is at a standard that is not complete enough for a building so prominent and important in our State. I just thought I should let you know! Thanks, Auroranorth 09:02, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Wikimania 2009

(moved from WT:WA) Hi there, everybody. Are we going to submit a bid for Wikimania 2009? Our bid is fairly well developed and I would be happy to continue with its progress (I have experiences with conferences about 75% of the size of this one). But the important thing is - do we have consensus that we should go through with it? Thanks, Auroranorth 08:43, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment -I hate to be negative, but honestly think we're not ready for this, and not by a long way. Reading the other bids, it seems a core group about a dozen very committed people is needed. I can't see that happening. There's no doubt that Perth has the infrastructure, and perhaps you know something I don't regarding available sponsorship $'s (most other bids seem to have a budget in the region of $250K), but more importantly, almost all of the planning and organisation will need to be done by unpaid local volunteers. I just don't believe you've got the manpower to do it justice. —Moondyne 09:40, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
ResponseHi Moondyne, I respect your concerns that we need more people to help with the project. If we can find them, would it be acceptable to launch an official bid? Regarding the actual bid professionalism, our bid is much better than all but Buenos Aires' bid, and we can easily outdo them. Auroranorth 10:05, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Object - outright - we (The WA set of editors who happen to occassionally edit wikipedia) do not have any form of corporate or legal identity in any form - or even stand a chance of even being an incorporated body - to which any form of responsible management might be given any credence - I do think that editing the online encyclopedia is a far more productive use of energy than even considering this issue. It has nothing to do with being negative either - cold hard reality of the real world - since when does a rag tag group of editors a professional organisation make? Please lets not waste too much time on this SatuSuro 10:14, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -I spoke to TheWinchester about 2 months ago on this topic and he got some info from conference organisers which suggested they have the resources to help plan an event on this scale, and could provide government support (i.e. cash) for a bid. Wikimedia Australia is getting going - slowly - and my visit to Melbourne in November should be productive in that sense. I'll make a couple of calls and find out what we can get. Due to his past experience in this area though I'd be happy to defer to TheWinchester on matters relating specifically to organising conferences, as he's actually done it for his employer in times past. We've also had offers from the SA and VIC contingents to help with manpower if we are a competitive bid. (I'll be honest and admit I think Melbourne has a better chance of success, and I'd support them if they were to go forward in our place, but so far they have not indicated any intention to have a bid.) Orderinchaos 10:20, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • I can't see me being involved. When it comes to the crunch, I'd rather be at home editing Wikipedia than attending some silly conference on it. Hesperian 12:08, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • You know what, I never thought about it that way. However, as I said before, I will not participate in more conversation here unless another comment is added (i.e. I will not raise more points, and will only comment here if someone else says something). Auroranorth 12:09, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Warwick

Hi all. After browsing through certain articles, I have noticed that this is rather overexposed, and has a random(?) person in the picture that is quite possibly recognisable. Now I know I might be seen as picky, but is someone able to take a picture of this station from the lower level without these factors? Just a personal thing that has been eating at me for a while. --Ali K 13:03, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Might see if I can tomorrow, although it's with an inferior camera to my usual as Canon have both of mine for repair. Orderinchaos 16:03, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
mmm... That's why I have been used Image:Transperth Warwick Train Station.jpg and Image:Transperth Whitfords Train Station.jpg on the Warwick and Whitfords on the initial revision that have the photo. And these two stations are constructed using the same design. Shinjiman 03:01, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Newsletter?

Have you seen WikiProject Biography's newsletter? Why can't we do something like this? I bet it would be worth our while and those who have been inactive may like to join again. I saw a previous discussion on a portal (or was that on WT:WA?) - could it tie in with that? I would be happy to help, but I'm not good with syntax. Auroranorth 13:23, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is such a small project that it would actually be an imposition on it to have a newsletter, and I don't even know what we'd have in it. It's not a bad idea, just from a practical angle it kind of falls over. Orderinchaos 13:46, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe the idea could be posed to WT:WA. Auroranorth 13:49, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Photos of New Perth stations

Esplanade Station and the new William St platforms opened today. Does anyone have any photos (or can anyone get some) of the new platforms? JRG 06:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll see what I can do tomorrow. I do actually have one of William Street station while it was still being built which may be of interest - have to find it though. Orderinchaos 07:00, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, have found two, plus photos I took of two signs on a now-removed barrier fence explaining the future of the stations. The material is probably on a website somewhere, but still useful to know we've got it. I'll try and take them in their present form tomorrow, although the camera I have is not my usual. Orderinchaos 07:06, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I can also get many tomorrow. - Boochan 10:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
yay! many! :P --Ali K 11:54, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm... I will probably never actually get to see these stations for many, many years! Auroranorth 11:59, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I Took a ton of photos today while wandering around the area of the underground platforms... I couldn't be bothered going out to the Esplanade. I'll dump them all onto Commons into the Transperth Category and link them here.. someone else can choose a photo(s) to place on the article as I am hopeless in choosing things like that. - Boochan 08:45, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I got some as well at both stations - waiting for my father to load them up as his camera doesn't work on my computer. Also got some of the tunnels out of the stations, thought that might be interesting for any articles related to construction of the things. Also have, from before, shots of Perth station taken a week or two ago from Murray Street through the wire, and one of the shutdown announcement. Orderinchaos 09:32, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Has anyone got a picture of the old wooden Cannington Station that can be scanned?petedavo 11:04, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Transperth line colours

In thinking about the coming opening of the Mandurah line, I’ve begun to wonder about the most appropriate way to represent it when updating my map of the railways (see Transperth Trains), so I thought I’d bring it here. Even though the Joondalup and Mandurah lines are to form one complete north-to-south route (and, indeed, already do as far as Esplanade), Transperth have chosen to give each of them an individual colour. So far, I’ve been showing the Mandurah line separately, in its official colour, but is this the best choice? Is it more important to reflect official usage, or to represent the actual service operated? David Arthur (talk) 23:30, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is similar to what we have for the Fremantle - Midland stretch. So yes, keep them separate. 리지강.wa.au talk 08:50, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article has been butchered since July. Hesperian 05:58, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi folks - I've written an article on the Freo Markets. Feel free to expand it, add photos, and help me come up with a decent hook for WP:DYK! Cheers :) - Gobeirne (talk) 23:55, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of markets, the Subiaco Pavillion Markets are closing today (Sun 30/12/07). TRS-80 (talk) 23:04, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fruit & Veg area of Fremantle markets
Fruit & Veg area of Fremantle markets

East Perth railway station

Hey guys, it's been a while. I notice that on the templates for Perth railway stations that all of the the links to East Perth station link to East Perth railway station, Perth; this is only a redirect to East Perth railway station. I've tried to correct this, but because of the complex s-line templates that the articles now use I can't figure out how. Can anyone fix this please? --M W Johnson 01:55, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]