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:Maybe: [[Help:Sorting#Sorting with hidden sortkey]] or one of the other methods on the page. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 04:36, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
:Maybe: [[Help:Sorting#Sorting with hidden sortkey]] or one of the other methods on the page. --[[User:Teratornis|Teratornis]] ([[User talk:Teratornis|talk]]) 04:36, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
:: I will give it a go, will update on how it went. Thanks.--'''[[User:M Johnson|<font color = "darkblue">M</font>]] [[User Talk:M Johnson|<font color = "darkgreen">W</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/M Johnson|<font color = "darkyellow">Johnson</font>]]''' 08:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
:: I will give it a go, will update on how it went. Thanks.--'''[[User:M Johnson|<font color = "darkblue">M</font>]] [[User Talk:M Johnson|<font color = "darkgreen">W</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/M Johnson|<font color = "darkyellow">Johnson</font>]]''' 08:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
::Worked beautifully! Thanks.--'''[[User:M Johnson|<font color = "darkblue">M</font>]] [[User Talk:M Johnson|<font color = "darkgreen">W</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/M Johnson|<font color = "darkyellow">Johnson</font>]]''' 08:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


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      April 18, 2008

      Delete a category

      Can someone delete the Category 'Mountaineering clubs' [1] please? I created it today before finding there was already a category for Climbing organizations. It is therefore redundant but I can't see how to uncreate it. Ta. Ericoides (talk) 11:55, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      I have tagged it for speedy deletion "per author's request". – ukexpat (talk) 15:05, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Thanks ukexpat. Ericoides (talk) 15:55, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Squadrons aboard U.S. Aircraft Carriers

      Please if possible on the pages that you have on the individual Aircraft Carriers could you put a box that lists all the Air Squadrons in order that served aboard. It would help greatly in tracking the squadrons as they moved from ship to ship. Now you list Airwings and that is ok but a list of the squadrons and the dates they were assigned to the ships would be of great importance to all the old sailors such as myself that served. I truly would appreciate anything you could do.

      Thank-you

      Frank Butler email removed Served 1972 to 1975 with VF-103 aboard USS Saratoga to USS Kennedy to USS America and back to USS Saratoga in just 3 years with detachments all over including "Hot Pad Duty" on Boca Chica Island north of Key West. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.72.122.146 (talk) 00:52, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      It would require verifiable sources for us to put that information onto a page. -- Kesh (talk) 00:56, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      We have articles about some squadrons such as VF-103; does that help? If you want to help improve these types of articles, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history. --Teratornis (talk) 04:36, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Artistic

      want to no more about artistic adults —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.171.197.66 (talk) 01:43, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Watchlist problem

      Hi, i suddenly have random articles included in my watchlist. How did this happen? I assume somewhere someone is using my account and adding pages to my watchlist. If this is true, how do i fix this problem? ќמшמφטтгמtorque 03:30, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Are you using a semi-automated tool like Twinkle or Friendly? These, by default, will add articles you tag/revert/whatever to your watchlist. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 03:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      (edit conflict) If you have twinkle installed, it automatically adds pages you revert onto your watchlist. Soxred93 | talk bot 03:34, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      (another edit conflict) If in your preferences, you might have "add pages that i edit to my watchlist" selected. If you think someone has gained access to your account, you should change your password. LegoKontribsTalkM 03:37, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      No, i dont use any of those, and i didnt select that preference. Ya, i'll change my password and see if the problem persists. Thanks all. ќמшמφטтгמtorque 03:45, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Do you recognize any of the "random" articles that appeared in your watchlist? E.g., do you recall having browsed to those articles in the past? Or are they completely unrelated to any articles you have edited or viewed? Just for fun, I tried searching the Help desk archive for: random article watchlist and that found a previous question that mentions one possibility:
      It looks like if you are watching an article, and a vandal maliciously moves the article to silly names, you can end up with the weird names on your watchlist as deleted articles. If you could tell us the names of some of the random articles you are seeing, we could check their histories and see if anyone has been messing with them. --Teratornis (talk) 04:04, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      If a page on your watchlist is moved then the new name is added to the watchlist, and it stays if the page is moved back. Could this be the cause? Some vandals move articles to strange names. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:00, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Ah, the articles added i have never even viewed them (as far as i remember), and some are weird names. Heres some of it: Jean Nouvel, Birmingham campaign (never viewed these), HERMY?, HERMY??, H.A.G.G.E.R.???, etc. ќמшמφטтгמtorque
      All of them have indeed been involved in move vandalism. Maybe you have or had one or more of Lord Voldemort, Hermione Granger, Ann Coulter, Resolution on your watchlist when they were moved as vandalism and the new name added to your watchlist. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      I noticed this today myself. It's just a combination of an old feature (if a watchlisted article is moved, you end up watching both the orignal title and the new title, so in move vandalism you'll autowatchlist the malicious title) and a very new feature (logs now show up in the watchlist). Someguy1221 (talk) 04:49, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Ya that must be it. Thanks again. ќמшמφטтгמtorque 03:19, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      inappropriate statements made on our school wikipage

      on the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleasant_High_School_%28Marion%2C_Ohio%29 someone has made several false statements and it is locked and we can't fix it

      currently the only thing left is:

      "The High School is small and contains about 300 students. A recent unfortunate event caused 299 to be dead, leaving one student known as Leonidas." Other slanderous statements that have been made have already been removed after the local authorities were involved.

      The Staff of Pleasant local Schools would like for this page to be either fixed (which we can't do because the person that caused the trouble seems to have played a part in locking it after they made the false statements ), or the page deleted. We also would like users Dreadstar and Masvolta to receive some sort of punishment for the wiki vandalism


      Thanks

      Brad Pettit Assistant Technology Coordinator Pleasant Local Schools —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bapettit (talkcontribs) 03:53, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      If you could specify what's true on that page and what's not, we can change it for you. And Dreadstar only protected it, Masvolta vandalized. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 03:57, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Hello Brad, school articles are frequent targets for vandalism, due the common occurrence of disaffected adolescent males in many schools. Because vandalism is such a large problem on Wikipedia, we have a lot of tools and documentation for dealing with it; see WP:EIW#Vandal for a pretty complete list. You can help Wikipedia by reading WP:VAN and WP:CUV, and adding Pleasant High School (Marion, Ohio) to your watchlist. --Teratornis (talk) 04:15, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Brad, you were not able to edit the Pleasant High School (Marion, Ohio) article because it is currently semi-protected against vandalism. Your account appears to be new, so you will have to wait until it is four days old before you can edit a semi-protected page. When a user such as User:Masvolta vandalizes something, someone should place a warning template on the user's talk page; User talk:Masvolta does not have a warning just yet as I write this. Special:Contributions/Masvolta shows only one small edit; it looks like most of the vandalism to the article has been by non-logged-in users, who show up in the history as IP addresses. As long as the article remains semi-protected, non-logged-in users will not be able to edit it. --Teratornis (talk) 04:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Actually, for the benefit of the newcomers here, I'd like to point out that planting one of Wikipedia's myriad and obscure boilerplate warning messages on a vandalizing user's talk page is certainly not a mandatory obligation. However, our blocking policy does require us to assume good faith and generally refrain from blocking users (which is our usual response to vandalism, there being only a very limited number of other things we can do) until they have been somehow clearly notified of the fact that that behavior they have engaged in is indeed not acceptable. It should also be pointed out that even this rule is not absolute, and common sense may be applied; I have personally been known to apply immediate 3 hour "penalty" blocks, combined with a suitable explanatory note (e.g. {{uw-block1}}), for vandals whose behavior indicates that they clearly already know they're up to no good. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 11:16, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Incorrect label from google on Neptune article

      When I searched for "Neptune" on Google the title that came up was "HAGGER?" - could someone fix this? I have no idea how to.

      131.215.167.115 (talk) 07:39, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Google cached a version of the article that was "page move" vandalized. It will update to the correct version shortly.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 07:41, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      short sale on my house?

      s it too late to do a short sale and talk to my morgage bank? if the bank allrady put a notice to vacate my property? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.43.194.208 (talk) 09:09, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      I think you've come to the wrong place for help. This area of Wikipedia is for people having problems using the site. You should also note that Wikipedia is not the place to come for financial advice (or legal, health, etc). Please read this disclaimer for full details. StephenBuxton (talk) 09:29, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      URL blocked

      I moderate a Dungeon Keeper (a computer game by EA/Bullfrog) forum, and have traditionally had links on Wikipedia on both Dungeon Keeper and Dungeon Keeper 2 articles. In the past 6 months or so these links have been routinely deleted or edited slightly (so that the URL is incorrect and doesn't link to the site). I know who is doing this, because I had the unfortunate task of banning some members on the forum I moderate - they created their own forum and replace our link with theirs. I have childishly resorted to doing that in response, but I can't keep it up and realise how petty it is.

      When adding the URL to the forum today, on the DK page, I was told it had been "blacklisted". Now, I don't know how one goes about blacklisting a site, but I'm sure the process was started by the aforementioned people. Who did it is rather unimportant, what is important is when the link will be unblacklisted. The forum is almost certainly the largest and most active DK community, and has a lot of useful resources and related projects, tournaments and exclusive interviews. I think it would be a shame if DK fans could not access this useful information. Our forum has prospered with the link to Wikipedia (and hopefully vice versa), and I hope this doesn't end because of sour grapes from a select minority of wiki users.

      In the mean time i'm using the temporary dot.tk URL to avoid the block. I can't even post the blocked URL here because it won't let me.

      What should I do to get my site link unblocked? Is there anyone I can contact? Thanks in advance, BonnieDonny (talk) 11:55, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      First, read Wikipedia:Spam. If you still feel the site should not be blacklisted, then you can file a request at MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist#Proposed removals. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:43, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Thanks for the heads up. I'll pursue this further. BonnieDonny (talk) 17:46, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      More information is at WP:EIW#Spam. I might also mention that an encyclopedia project such as this naturally attracts sticklers and pedants, including at least one (me) who experiences anguish at the modern misuse of sour grapes to mean spite rather than the historically proper "the false denial of desire for something sought but not acquired; to denigrate and feign disdain for that which one could not attain." --Teratornis (talk) 18:23, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Such as unbanned status on my forum? I apologise for not fully explaining my use of the expression "sour grapes". However, in the future I'd advise you to think more carefully about what other people mean before jumping on their use of a word or phrase! BonnieDonny (talk) 19:07, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      what happened to acount : joseph031164 ?

      Resolved

      I cannot login to joseph031164, and all the revison history of this account has disappeared. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.240.130.179 (talk) 12:30, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      adrenoleucodistrofia

      I need information in English on an article you have documented on your Spanish encyclopedia. It is titled "La Adrenoleucodistrofia (ALD) (A GENETIC DESEASE). I will be greatly appreciate your help. Thanks. Grace —Preceding unsigned comment added by Albagracia (talkcontribs) 14:01, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      I believe you are looking for Adrenoleukodystrophy. If you look on the spanish article, on the left hand side of the screen , you should see a box marked "Otros idiomas". This displays links to the articles held by the various other languaged Wikipedias. Please note that the information contained within the articles may not be the same, as they are not necessarily direct translations. StephenBuxton (talk) 14:14, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      The {{Google translation}} template can machine-translate articles from the Spanish Wikipedia to English, although not as well as a skilled human translator. You may find this useful for comparing the machine-translated results of the es:Adrenoleucodistrofia article to the Adrenoleukodystrophy article.
      --Teratornis (talk) 17:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Also see Help:Interlanguage links and WP:EIW#Translate. --Teratornis (talk) 17:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      image description pages

      I cannot find the copyright information for the images in the portal.tropical_cyclone imagess. I have spent about two hours trying to figure out how to determine what the copyrights are. How do I find the "image description page" for an image. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.153.162.113 (talk) 15:01, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Clicking on an image will usually take you to an image page with license information. If that doesn't work then where is the image? PrimeHunter (talk) 15:19, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Unknown file type when loading the page "Circuit complexity"

      I have edited a number of Wikipedia pages but do not understand why I get the message "Unknown file type" when loading the page "Circuit complexity". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hmonroe (talkcontribs) 15:26, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Does Circuit complexity work? What about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_complexity? with '?' at the end? Some browsers or other installed programs with bad settings have problems with certain endings that they try to interpret as a special file type even though there is no '.' in the name. Maybe your software thinks it's a .ty file. If that's the case then try to fix those settings somewhere, or manually add ? to the url. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:35, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      By "loading the page" do you refer to editing the page? Do you only have this problem when you are logged in? If so, check your preferences and click the Editing tab. Maybe you have a check mark at "Use external editor by default". If so, does it help to remove it? This problem comes up occasionally on the Help desk, for example:
      --Teratornis (talk) 17:28, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      How do I make a new article all together?

      How do I make a new article all together? Thanks.64.203.192.70 (talk) 16:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
      Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
      If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:49, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      If you tell us the subject of the article you wish to make, we can advise you more specifically on what to do, as well as what not to do. Be aware that Wikipedia deletes thousands of new articles, and new articles by new users are at especially high risk, because we have a lot of unobvious policies and guidelines most new users will not be aware of. --Teratornis (talk) 17:32, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Detecting hex code

      How do I detect the hex colour code for this template: 2008 in tennis? 88.104.225.179 (talk) 18:54, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      You have to click the "edit" button to see the source code. In this case, you had to follow that code to the template for that template (oy) which is {{Navbox}}, and the code is #ddddff Someguy1221 (talk) 19:00, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Meta-templates? Those poor kitties! Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 22:06, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      A quick question

      Resolved

      When using WP:AWB, how do you convert a list into their accompanying talk pages? Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talkcontribs) 20:24, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      In the "List" menu, there is a button that says "Convert to talk pages". Good luck! Soxred93 | talk bot 20:26, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Thanks a lot! « Gonzo fan2007 (talkcontribs) 20:29, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      My article was deleted but I can't find it in the deletion log

      I had created an article back in November re Terry Anderson (Politician) When I search for it now I get redirected to a very brief description under Conservative party candidates. I tried using the deletion log to find out why but I can't find it in the log. Any help is greatly appreciated.

      If it's a redirect, it hasn't been deleted. When you see the notice that you have been redirected (it's up top, the part under the title that says "Redirected from..."), click the link to go to the redirect page. You will see that the page has not been deleted, but made to redirect to the page about candidates. Hope this helps! Calvin 1998 (t-c) 22:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      (edit conflict) A redirection is not considered a deletion so there is no deletion log. When you click the redirecting Terry Anderson (politician), you get to the target page with the text "Redirected from Terry Anderson (politician)" at the top. Click on the name there to get to the redirecting page where you can click the history tab to find you version. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:52, 18 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      April 19

      Userpage

      Can someone create my userpage, User:76.205.74.106 with a couple of letters so then I can proceed to edit it. I can't start pages, but can edit them. 76.205.74.106talk 00:51, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Thanks, but I'd prefer to remain an IP. 76.205.74.106talk 02:16, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Gonzo fan2007 created it. Superm401 - Talk 06:25, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Can't cofirm email; copying URL doesn't help

      I've tried numerous times to confirm my email address and keep getting "Invalid confirmation code. The code may have expired." In response to this question from someone else, the suggestion was to copy and paste the URL into my browser, but that hasn't worked either. Anything else I can do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmgarroway (talkcontribs)

      The email help page is here. If that doesn't work you could try resetting the email in preferences. (Ie, change it to another fake email address, save the preferences, then change it back). That should generate another confirmation email. --Bfigura (talk) 01:42, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Does the URL have 82 characters looking similar to:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ConfirmEmail/6126307f127dfa20615db4e64f4de4d1
      PrimeHunter (talk) 03:14, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Who is the "Editing Admin"

      Hello, I am trying to find out who the Editing Administrator is for entry: churches of Christ.

      Thank you Mark0880 (talk) 01:31, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      There is no such thing as an editing admin. Everyone who edits Wikipedia is an editor. Some editors have been given a few extra tools to help run the project, which makes them an admin, but when they edit an article they are an editor like everyone else, and they have to abide by the same rules as everybody else. If you want to know who has edited the article, you can click on the History tab in the top of your screen. There you can see the revisions of the article. AecisBrievenbus 01:35, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Churches of Christ was last semi-protected by User:FisherQueen, if that's what you're asking. You can see the logs of admin actions on that page here. Hersfold (t/a/c) 06:25, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Length of file names

      IS there any policy/guideline that limits filename length because this file, even if it had a source or copyright tag seems way too long in length. NanohaA'sYuriTalk, My master 02:45, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      I would say use common sense. If there is a specific reason that the file length needs to be long, then it is fine. But in the case you presented, it is disruptively long, and thus it has been deleted. :-) « Gonzo fan2007 (talkcontribs) 02:52, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      The limit may be 256 characters if Wikipedia is using varchar(255), which is a pretty common length for MySQL columns :) GaryKing (talk) 10:13, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      According to previous research, 255 characters works but 256 doesn't. Algebraist 11:14, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Surely the filename should reflect the subject. Astronaut (talk) 17:47, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      ...so I've uploaded a duplicate with the name Image:KennyLofton.jpg, flagged the original as a duplicate, and notified the uploader that the same copyright and source problems still apply. Astronaut (talk) 17:51, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Wikipedia:Upload and MediaWiki

      What system message (MediaWiki:) are you people using to make the link which is Upload file in the toolbox in the left direct to Wikipedia:Upload instead of the default Special:Upload? We also want to do it in our wiki. -- Felipe Aira 03:47, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      It took a while to find it, but apparently the page is MediaWiki:Uploadwizard-url. You'll see ours is currently set to Wikipedia:Upload - apparently you can get it to point to whatever page you want (just make sure you spelled it right and have the namespace correct - heavens knows what happens if that turns out to be a redlink) Hersfold (t/a/c) 06:18, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      One improvement I'd like in MediaWiki would be a fast way to see all the MediaWiki: namespace pages that contribute to the appearance of a given page. When we edit a page, MediaWiki displays any templates that the page transcludes; I wish MediaWiki had a similar feature to show a list of all other user-interface components that make up whatever page (special or otherwise) I'm looking at. Currently we have to say "it took a while to find it," and that's kind of silly since it would be trivial for the software to display the components of a page upon user request. I.e., MediaWiki has to know what pages and so on it is using to build the current page. Of course this feature would be primarily useful to wiki administrators rather than ordinary users. --Teratornis (talk) 17:10, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Email Headaches

      Previously I have been able to receive emails though Wiki, but this functionality seems to have stopped working. When I go into my preferences, it is now saying that I am no longer authenticated. If I try to send a new confirmation email, it allows me to do so (although it gives me a big red warning that I have already been sent a confirmation), and I receive the email. However, when I click on the URL within that email, I am told that "Invalid confirmation code. The code may have expired." The URL changes each time I try to get a new email.

      I do have a unified account, and the same problem is occuring on other Wikis that I have also previously been confirmed on (ie: English Wikinews). Is this related to the account unification process, or is it something else? I'm pretty sure that I've successfully been able to receive emails since I unified my accounts. Lankiveil (speak to me) 04:15, 19 April 2008 (UTC).[reply]

      I have an SUL and haven't been having these problems - I'd suggest asking at the tech village pump or more probably bugzilla, as I'm not sure what to recommend. Hersfold (t/a/c) 06:23, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      AfD

      I tagged Nels Roseland for deletion before realizing there was a previous nomination. The article now links to that discussion instead of the AfD page I was about to create. How do I correct this mistake? (He's no longer on the City Council, so I'm pretty sure he'll fail criteria.) APK yada yada 08:01, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Fixed it. You can click on the redlink and create the discussion page now. Hersfold (t/a/c) 08:19, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Ok, thank you. APK yada yada 08:19, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      You may wish to read this though Wikipedia:Notability#Notability_is_not_temporary. Just a friendly tip = ) --Cameron (t|p|c) 10:10, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Holidays in Egypt

      We are a tour operator specializing in Egypt Travel. we would like to use Wikipedia for general marketing, but also offer free advise and help regarding Egypt. We would like to invite people to contact us with any questions and comments they may have. This would help us and other tourists enjoy they stay. My question is, is this allowed, and what page do i need to access. Kind Regards.

      Jenny Dedman Company Director — Preceding unsigned comment added by TruEgypt (talkcontribs) 11:39, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Sorry, but advertising on Wikipedia is strictly disallowed. Xenon54 12:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      As Xenon says, this is not allowed - sorry. There's some more information about policies at WP:NOT#ADVERTISING.--86.149.58.220 (talk) 12:10, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      You could try Wikicompany, which accepts articles about any legally incorporated company. --Teratornis (talk) 17:03, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Also see Wikipedia:FAQ/Business. --Teratornis (talk) 17:04, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Brachial Plexus Page

      I was just looking at the "Brachial Plexus" info page, and saw that under the picture from Gray's is listed the spinal cord levels as "C5, C6, C7, C8, C1". The "C1" should be "T1". If you click on it, it takes you to the "T1" page, but I couldn't figure out how to edit the text under the picture. Thank you.

       Done ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 13:16, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Vandalism

      Resolved

      Er, can someone please remove this piece of vandalism because I'm not yet autoconfirmed to be able to rollback. Thanks. -- Mentisock 13:30, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

       Done Malinaccier (talk) 13:31, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Page moved - new title question

      I recently saw this on my watchlist:

      The article was moved to, I just quoted the talk page line.

      Anyway, what's the policy on this regarding the parentheses? "Jordan (Katie Price) (Katie Andre)" seems really really awkward. Dismas|(talk) 14:22, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Parenthesis are usually only used to distinguish one subject from another, like Starship Troopers (film) vs Starship Troopers. In the case of celebrities, their most commonly referenced name should be used, and any other names should be Redirects or Disambiguation pages.
      I'm not familiar enough with this person to determine which one is correct, but you should be able to come to a consensus on the Talk page. The article can be moved to that name, and the others can be redirects. -- Kesh (talk) 15:39, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      You might find some guidance in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people). Just to make sure we use the correct terminology, we have article naming guidelines rather than policies. (Policies are stricter than guidelines on Wikipedia). --Teratornis (talk) 17:01, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Unless there is another Jordan whose real name is Katie Price, I would have thought the first set of parentheses were sufficient to distingush the model Jordan from the country Jordan. If really necessary, Katie Andre could be set up as a redirect. Astronaut (talk) 17:38, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      What is allowed on a user page

      User:LilA1234 has tried several times to create an article about the Trailor Hood Wrestling Federation (THWF) and each time it has been speedy-deleted. See here. So, this user now has the THWF article as his user page, with the lead-in "Hi My Name Is Andrew Hanson And I Am LilA1234 ANd Beings That I Cant Have A Wikipedia Page On A Actual Page I Will DO It Here". I know that user pages are pretty-much free-reign. Is this an appropriate use of a user page? Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 14:44, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      No, this is not a proper use. Per Wikipedia:User page#Copies of other pages:

      While userpages and subpages can be used as a development ground for generating new content, this space is not intended to indefinitely archive your preferred version of disputed or previously deleted content or indefinitely archive permanent content that is meant to be part of the encyclopedia. In other words, Wikipedia is not a free web host. Private copies of pages that are being used solely for long-term archival purposes may be subject to deletion....

      --Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      It's rather sad that none of the warnings on User talk:LilA1234 provide a direct link to the instructions that User:LilA1234 needs most: Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted?#If all else fails, try another wiki. Often when people insist on placing inappropriate content on Wikipedia, the problem is that they are simply unaware that thousands of other wikis exist. Wikipedia may be the first site they have ever seen that makes it so easy for anyone with a Web browser to make decent-looking Web pages. They may not have any particular interest in Wikipedia, they may be just as happy to have their content somewhere else, but they don't realize they have other options. Then it seems many of Wikipedia's enforcers are similarly unaware that the violator is unaware. --Teratornis (talk) 16:45, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      External links

      Resolved

      Should the bottom two links on Bacolod City#External links be there, the Visayan Daily Star Bacolod link and the Sun Star Bacolod link? I find they don't really add anything to the article, but the anonymous IPs that add it in disagree with me. I don't want to violate 3RR and was wondering on anyone else's opinion. Thanks, SpencerT♦C 17:08, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      I agree with you. I don't think they really should be there, if they don't really add anything for the article. As for the IPs, I'd suggest they create their own account on Wikipedia if they want to make some constructive edits. If they continue to add these, perhaps add warnings on their talk pages, and see if some blocking might be helpful.--EclipseSSD (talk) 18:51, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      New section

      Resolved

      Is there some CSS I can put to my monobook to switch the "new section" tab back to the original plus sign? bibliomaniac15 17:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Under Gadgets in preferences, check: Change the "new section" tab text to instead display the much narrower "+". PrimeHunter (talk) 18:03, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Thanks. bibliomaniac15 18:09, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Yeah I noticed the change too. Is there a place i can read to where they discussed the change?
      See WP:VPPR#Replace "+" with "add new comment". Hersfold (t/a/c) 21:43, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Where to comment on Watchlist "spam" (SF mailing list)

      I cannot figure out where to provide feedback on regional announcements being put on everybody's watchlist. Thanks. --Dfred (talk) 19:31, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      What is your question? Calvin 1998 (t-c) 19:33, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Sorry. What talk page would you use if you wanted to influence the guidelines/policies regarding what kind of banner announcements are appropriate for the top of everybody's watch list. This is related to the current headline size ad for the SF mailing list. Yes, I know I can hide it, but seems like there should be guidelines about what's appropriate or else there would be all sorts of crap showing up every time I log in. Thanks.--Dfred (talk) 19:39, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      You might want to ask around at the village pump or admin noticeboard, the people there would know. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 19:48, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Thanks! --Dfred (talk) 19:50, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Hi. About half an hour ago an anon inserted a section saying the used broke up. A few minutes ago another anon said in the article that they did not break up. I could not find the information in their myspace so can someone help either remove the section or update the rest of the article? Thanks. ~AH1(TCU) 19:54, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Someone needs to add a reference to the statements they add, otherwise I think it is best to assume that they did not break up. Gary King (talk) 20:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Any information that is likely to be challenged, or likely to be contentious and is unsourced should be removed. It's up to user adding the unsourced info to back it up. Wisdom89 (T / C) 21:24, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Is it possible to change my user name? --Marco Salvalaglio (talk) 22:17, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      See Wikipedia:Changing username. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 22:18, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      where do I go to ask a question about my stomach problems I have never used this but can't seem to find answers

      Need to learn how to use this website

      You can look up stomach and other related items but we cannot give out medical advice other than to tell you to see a physician. Dismas|(talk) 22:56, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Please read Wikipedia:Medical disclaimer. If you have any medical problems, you should contact a medical professional. We are not a doctor. AecisBrievenbus 22:57, 19 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 15:19, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      WebMD might be useful? Gary King (talk) 20:47, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      April 20

      Is there any way....

      To click a button on here and be taken to a completely random article?? Like a lucky dip???— Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.77.250.99 (talkcontribs)

      Special:Random will give you a random article each time you click it. « Gonzo fan2007 (talkcontribs) 01:09, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Wow that's really cool - thanks - not sure what use it really has though - lol.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.77.250.99 (talkcontribs)
      Haha yeah a lot of people will use it to learn random new facts, or find random pages to copy-edit or add to. « Gonzo fan2007 (talkcontribs) 01:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      "Random article" in the navigation box to the left is a link to Special:Random. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:37, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 20:07, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      It'd be nice if we could also choose which namespace to randomize, because I'd like to see some pages in the Wikipedia namespace that I have never seen before :) Gary King (talk) 21:02, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Disputing content

      I have spent more time than I intended to looking for this answer. If I read an article and wish to dispute the accuracy, how do I go about that. So far I see only one choice, that being to edit the article.

      It seems to me though that would be unacceptable since I have no way of actually verifying my claim in a mere edit. My verification would usually be a preponderance of articles by other reputable sources found elsewhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Truth Always Wins (talkcontribs)

      You can add a note on the article's talk page. However, it would be a good start to have sources ready to back up your claims. Hersfold (t/a/c) 01:31, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      The best course of action depends on the circumstances. Do you have something specific in mind? Maybe we can do something about it. Some links which may or may not be useful in a given situation: Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:Be bold, Wikipedia:Resolving Disputes/Templates, Wikipedia:Dispute resolution, Wikipedia:Talk page. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:48, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 20:07, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Four years I have suffered a stroke.

      It has been easier for me to use word functions on the internet. Would you have this for Windows XP? It is much easier for to hear the words pronced on the internet then to read it. Thank you for your help!

      I am sorry to hear of your problem, and I am happy to hear that text-based internet interactions are a useful alternative for you.

      You have asked your question at the Wikipedia Help desk. This is a purely text-based page that is devoted to help for questions about using the english Wikipedia. Nevertheless, I think we should interpret your question broadly, as follows:

      • If a user of the English Wikipedia needs spoken output rather than text output, then what should that user do? Please respond assuming that the user is using XP. Responses for other user environments are also appreciated.

      -Arch dude (talk) 05:00, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]


      -- I use a Mac, so I can only answer in general about XP, but what you need is a screen reader. A google search for "windows xp screen reader" turned this Microsoft article up as the first link: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/accessibility/expert/crawford_03may27.mspx and also had many other relevant links. Mac OS X includes - and has from the first version - the ability to have the machine speak selected text; to use it, select the text you want read, then go to the application's menu (the one to the right of the Apple menu), then "Services", then "Speech", then "Start Speaking Text". Also, Mac OS X can speak text that you point to with the mouse, to turn this on either type command-F5 or turn on VoiceOver from the Universal Access system preference.

      The long way would be to copy+paste into Microsoft Sam. WP:RD/C might help a bit more. ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 07:59, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Check out Comparison of screen readersJAWS (screen reader) seems to be quite popular. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 10:24, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 19:25, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      coffee mug

      I broke my friends honeymoon Insperation coffee mug.How can I get another one. It was Navy Blue.

      I'd recommend going to Wal-Mart. This is Wikipedia, an encyclopedia, which doesn't sell coffee mugs. Sorry. Hersfold (t/a/c) 02:21, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Try google. [2] did not get an immediate hit, so you will need to try different search parameters.The help desk is not exactly the right place for this, but you are a Wikipedian ins need, so I responded. I would guess that the Wikipedia:Reference desk/Miscellaneous might be a better place to ask. -Arch dude (talk) 02:51, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      I don't think the Reference Desk needs questions such as this. Hersfold (t/a/c) 03:32, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      If you kept the pieces of the broken mug, you could super glue them back together. The mug would not be suitable for beverage use, but your friend could still use it as a pen and pencil holder. --Teratornis (talk) 03:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Be careful how you word it though. ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 15:23, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 19:25, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Moved to: Wikipedia talk:Help desk#Wikipedia:Help desk/Instructions - meta-discussion about the design of the Help desk belongs on its talk page. --Teratornis (talk) 06:06, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Huggle

      Hi, I've been trying to get Huggle to work, but so far, I've had no luck at all. I created the .css page as instructed, User:Useight/huggle.css, but I don't know what to do next. Can someone let me know what I'm supposed to do to use Huggle? Useight (talk) 03:38, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      As per the instructions on Wikipedia:Huggle, email User:Huggle (a.k.a User:Gurch) using Special:Emailuser/Huggle, requesting Huggle. You will then receive the .exe for huggle back as an attachment. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 03:43, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Okay, I guess I'll have to wait for the e-mail. Thanks. Useight (talk) 03:45, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      I added [[:Category:Wikipedians who use Huggle|{{PAGENAME}}]] to your userpage. Did you make sure you've downloaded the most recent .7.4 version? And checked the second option to use Special:Recentchanges (more reliable than IRC), and given your firewall an exception for it, since it needs one? MBisanz talk 03:47, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      I hope you don't mind that I added nowiki tags to show the code you added to Useight's user page. The code was rendering as "Help desk" here and that was potentially confusing for someone to read (maybe someone like me). --Teratornis (talk) 05:40, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Yea, that would be me messing up the code somewhere. Thanks. MBisanz talk 23:56, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Similar Username

      Resolved

      I have found an account with the name Dendog. I am sure you can see that it is similar to my name, Dendodge, how do I deal with similar usernames? WP:UAA, WP:RFCN or {{uw-username}}? ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 08:34, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Well the account appears to have been created on July 30, 2006, and has not made any edits at this point, so I would say watchlist it if you want, and if that user ever does any edits you may be concerned. But given the history, or lack thereof on that account I would just ignore it unless it does become an issue. -Optigan13 (talk) 08:45, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Especially considering that user actually registered before you did. -Optigan13 (talk) 08:46, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Oh, I just presumed that the lack of contribs, user page and talk page meant the user was new. OK, thanks. ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 09:00, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Disabling the ability to wikilink to a page?

      Got a problem. A bunch of us are combing through style guidelines for conflicts and stupid stuff (shocking, I know :) Here's one: 1700s etc links to a page that doesn't mean "1700s", it refers to the first decade of the 1700s. For people that know this, it isn't a problem; but since "1700s" never means "the first decade of the 1700s" outside Wikipedia, every user who hasn't been specifically told gets it "wrong" (as "wrong" is defined on Wikipedia). We discussed this yesterday at WT:MOSNUM.

      We could delete the page and use titles that mean what they say, or it might work if anyone trying to link to 1700s gets some kind of notice (a nightly bot might work) that Wikipedia has a special meaning for the term, and did they mean the century or the first decade, or it might work if there's an overridable template that disallows linking to that page. Got a solution? - Dan Dank55 (talk) 12:11, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      I don't think there is a generally accepted term for the first decade of the 18th century. Thus, 1700s is probably the least worst, becuase it fits into the scheme we have for decades (1690s, 1700s, 1710s, etc.). I guess we could have every "century decade" (1500s, 1600s, 1700s, 1800s, etc.) become a disambiguation page between, e.g. 1700s (decade) (which would serve the current role of 1700s) and 18th century (which would remain unchanged). I'm not sure whether this is a reasonable solution. However, disabling linking really isn't going to work. Superm401 - Talk 12:26, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      There are plenty of accepted phrases, they just aren't 5 characters or less. "The first decade of the 1700s", "1700–1709", etc work fine. I agree that a disambiguation page would be ideal; I really don't know what people were thinking not making it a disambiguation page in the first place, since every dictionary and every hit from a Google search says that "1700s" means 1700–1799. I'll see what I can do at WT:DAB. - Dan Dank55 (talk) 13:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Legality of vandalism

      I am a dangerous (joke) combination of curious and bored today, and found myself wondering what the legal status of vandalism on Wikis is. That's both where the servers are hosted and anywhere where the user might actually be vandalising. Is it technically a crime? Is anything else iritating done by IPs etc technically criminal? Not that there's much notice the police would pay, but curiosity got the better of me. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 14:10, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Well technically vandalism is legal because Wikipedia allows everyone to edit. If Wikipedia didn't let everyone edit and they some how hacked into the database it would then be illegal. Alexfusco5 14:28, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Note that Wikipedia does not give legal opinions and help desk editors are not official representatives of the Wikimedia Foundation. I don't know whether there are circumstances (for example for block-evading users making continued extreme vandalism) where the foundation might consider legal action. And the subject of a vandalism edit might take legal action independently of the Wikimedia Foundation. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:53, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 14:57, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      If any vandalism on Wikipedia had led to significant legal action, presumably someone would have written about it in the Signpost, which you can search with {{Google custom}}: Search Wikipedia Signpost. The closest event I am aware of was the Seigenthaler incident. (My awareness would be a very incomplete measure of what you are asking about.) --Teratornis (talk) 15:11, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      And the same applies for racism/personal attacks? Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 19:12, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      That would be shakier. As I said before, we cannot give legal advice but if it caused distress or damage, somebody could sue....... Dendodge.TalkHelp 19:15, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Email.

      So, how do I get a wikipedia email address? Having that would be awesome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.31.40.192 (talk)

      Wikipedia is not an email service and does not offer a Wikipedia email address. If you have an account then you can mail with other registered users who have set an email address for their account, but it must be an existing email address independent of Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:33, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      It's possible that if you devote yourself to being appointed to the board of the Wikimedia Foundation or becoming their developer, or otherwise ingratiate yourself into the inner circle you can get them to set you up with an email account. Or, you can try other routes such as taking over the world, and then ordering that it be done or else. Be creative.--68.237.236.181 (talk) 16:13, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Nah, I'm pretty sure Jimbo Wales uses Gmail, and he's the Wikipedia Godking/All-encompassing dictator! ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 17:02, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Jimbo uses a Wikia email, his userpage says so. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 17:19, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 19:24, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      It'd probably not be a good idea to hand out @wikipedia.org email addresses because if people misuse them, then Wikipedia's reputation could be in jeopardy, whether or not the two issues are related. Gary King (talk) 19:27, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Nonsense situation

      Resolved

      Please visit Help:Page_name. At the top is a green box detailing the history of China or something equally irrelevant. If possible, please ascertain why and correct the situation. ----Seans Potato Business 16:18, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      The header template was vandalized. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 16:37, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Taking a quick look, I found another redirected header that had been repeatedly vandalized since April 2006. --— Gadget850 (Ed) talk - 17:16, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      World Market Center Las Vegas entry

      Small Text Please note the listing for World Market Center Las Vegas, only shows it to be listed as World Market Center.

      Because of an agreement reached with a similar-named corporation (Cost Plus World Market Center), our company's name must be identified as "World Market Center Las Vegas." (see press release: http://lasvegasmarket.com/wmc/press_room/press_releases-main-news/april-17-2008-cost-plus-w.shtml)

      Can this change be made?

      If any further information is needed, please contact my office:

      --Amaiden (talk) 16:27, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

       Done ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 16:50, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      In the future, you can rename an article yourself by moving it with the "move" tab that appears at the top of each article after your account is four days old. See Help:Moving a page for more information. Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:55, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Deleting a page

      I don't know how delete a page, and i can't find anything that tells me how. – 「JUMPGURU」@Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 17:28, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      You can't, as you're not an administrator. However, Wikipedia:DELETE outlines the various reasons for deletion and the various ways you can tag a page for further attention. Hersfold (t/a/c) 17:31, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Incidentally, what page are you looking at? Hersfold (t/a/c) 17:32, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      If it's one you created and does not have any useful content, you could apply a WP:CSD tag to it. Gary King (talk) 19:25, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Signatures in templates

      Resolved

      If I put 4 tildes in a template, whose signature will be shown on pages onto which the template is transcluded - mine or that of the transcluder? ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 17:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Depends on how you do it. Your intention, I assume, is to get the transcluder's signature to show, in which case you'll want to use this code: ~<includeonly>~~</includeonly>~ That will force the signature to only appear when the template is used. Note, however, that the template will probably need to be substituted (subst:) all the time if you use this. Hersfold (t/a/c) 17:53, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Thanks, that's my intention but I need it to transclude. The template's {{HD}}, which is for use on this page and has pretty long code when it's subst:ed. If it's not possible it's fine. (I've included an example here but the others are the ones I need the sig for. ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 17:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      I'd suggest not having it include the sig, then, as people often want to leave additional comments after the standard message (i.e. "If that doesn't help, try here instead," etc.) Including the sig automatically would cause some awkwardness. Hersfold (t/a/c) 18:04, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Hmm, OK, thanks! ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 18:19, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Table

      Resolved
       – Issue resolved. Gary King (talk) 20:46, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Can someone table the information for the 2008 state winners in National Geographic Bee. I tried twice, but my computer failed both times. It took a long time to do, and it got frustrating. I'm asking if someone else can do it. Just use similar tables like the previous year's winners. Thanks, SpencerT♦C 18:00, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

       Doing... I'm on it...! EJF (talk) 18:28, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      I was about to do it, but I see that EJF (talk · contribs) already has it covered. I had some fancy regular expressions all written up, already, too! :) (I hope you didn't do it all by hand...!) Gary King (talk) 19:20, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
       Done Gary: I'm afraid I did... :( EJF (talk) 19:21, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Unfortunately it wasn't a Canadian Geographic Bee, since then only 10 provinces would have to be done, as opposed to 50 states :) Gary King (talk) 19:23, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Thanks...it frustrated me when I kept screwing up. Mind you, there's 55 states represented in the bee...because of Puerto Rico, DC, Virgin Islands, Pacific Territories, and Department of Denfense Schools. SpencerT♦C 19:58, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Those are mostly American territories, but certainly not states. (Sorry, I had to say it! :p) Gary King (talk) 20:45, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      images

      I am trying to upload an image - an album cover to be precise - but the language used in the Wikepedia help area is not helpful and after spending the last half an hour trying to make my way through the whole process I have to resort to the HELP area!!! So can anyone guide me through the procedure - please do it in the most non-technical way. Perhaps as if you are teaching a person who knows none of the jargon. Sorry for being so stupid! Or is it me being stupid?

      Click the 'upload file' link in the toolbox to the left. Select a source and find the right file from your PC. Fill in the details and you're done! ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 19:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      See WP:FUR to find a relevant 'fair use rationale'. ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 19:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Hello Colm, I am afraid you cannot yet upload an image because your account is not yet 4 days old. By Thursday evening (5.42pm GMT) you will be able to upload an image, following Dendodge's above instructions. Happy editing! EJF (talk) 19:20, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Feel free to notify someone and ask them to upload the image for you, though, if the image is already available somewhere online. Gary King (talk) 19:21, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 19:23, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Put a user's contributions on the watchlist?

      Is it possible to put someone's contributions on my watchlist? If so, how do I do that? Gary King (talk) 19:32, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Don't believe so. Sorry. Hersfold (t/a/c) 19:35, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Alright, thanks, I figured as much. I've just been curious after seeing a few people saying that they would put a user's contributions on their watchlist, but I guess they put the user on their watchlist then check their watchlist every once in a while for pages in the user namespace. Gary King (talk) 19:36, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Actually, there's a script for this purpose. The script is located at User:Tra/userwatchlist.js. With this script installed, the edits of users whose user page is on your watchlist is displayed in a watchlist-like format at User:Tra/User watchlist. Pyrospirit (talk · contribs) 19:40, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Interesting. I'll check it out, although I'd rather not want to add user pages to my watchlist because I'd rather not want to be flooded with another user's messages on my watchlist. Gary King (talk) 19:43, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      WSMR map

      I recently moved this to Commons but i want to preserve the history. It has not done this on Commons but i am worried now that i have moved the image, it is going to be deleted here (the history goes byebye). With all the different versions, it now looks strange on Commons in the history area but does not show the older versions. A thing to note is that i moved the image to Commons under a different name.

      The image(s) i am referring to is\are Image:WSMR route trial pic.png (here on Wikipedia) and Image:WSMR trial route map.png (Commons version). What do i do? Simply south (talk) 19:55, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Remove the {{NowCommons}} template from the Wikipedia version and then it won't be deleted. Gary King (talk) 20:03, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Should i still make a note on the Wikipedia version that the same image exists on Commons and about the above in less words? Simply south (talk) 20:11, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Might be an idea. Yeah, why not? ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 20:17, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      So much worry over nothing i suppose. How does it looks (Wikipedia version)? Simply south (talk) 20:30, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Looks fine. ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 20:36, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Request for comment

      I placed a RFC tag on this page Talk:False document, in the last section.

      The RFC bot found this tag and created an entry here: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Art, architecture, literature and media.

      But the entry is not correctly arranged. I'm guessing I goofed. Can someone tell me what I did wrong?

      Thanks, Wanderer57 (talk) 20:22, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

       Done You emboldened the section title, deleting the ''' and ''' fixed it. ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 20:34, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Thank you. The problem was fixed but it came back. It seems as if the bot reversed your edit as soon as it returned to the page.  ?? Wanderer57 (talk) 20:56, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
       Done (again) If the bot reverts it again, I'll complain to its operator. ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 21:02, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      April 21

      Weeping Silence

      Hi,

      With expressed permission by Weeping Silence (a band from Malta) I was given go ahead with establishing a presence for them on Wikipedia as after many other bands have had. Somehow I dare to say discriminately, I am sorry but I cannot sense it in any other way our page was targeted for speedy deletion and deleted before we could appropriately justify our stand.

      This is being felt as most offensive as we are genuinely moved to comply with Wikipedia regulations & seek to be given a fair treatment. We're only asking if there is any way by which you can verify our article please tell us.

      We look forward to your feedback please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yendor79 (talkcontribs)

      Please thoroughly consider and familiarize yourself with WP:MUSIC - it delineates the notability requirements for the inclusion of music related articles on Wikipedia. Also, make sure before you save the page, that it has reliable sources, and that it asserts the importance without promoting the band. Also, bear in mind WP:COI. Wisdom89 (T / C) 00:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      See WP:WWMPD. Your Special:Contributions/Yendor79 shows few edits. If you are new to editing on Wikipedia, be aware that starting new articles that "stick" is often very difficult for new users here, due to the many policies and guidelines for content that are extremely unintuitive for most people. Wikipedia is different than anything most people have experienced before, so the rules are not what most people expect. A user has to have quite a bit of knowledge about Wikipedia to know how to make a new article that will stick. I would recommend against starting new articles if a user has fewer than 500 edits at a bare minimum, especially for "deletion targets" such as articles about obscure bands (almost all the major acts already have articles here). It's safer to start new articles about things such as bridges, dams, power stations, public parks, and stuff like that which doesn't represent a product that anybody is trying to promote. --Teratornis (talk) 04:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 08:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Removing tags

      What is the procedure for removing tags such as "spam" or "NPOV" from an article when you (think) you have corrected them? Should one bring it to the attention of the editor who added them, or just be bold and take them out? Wikiquette; the difficult choice. Fribbler (talk) 00:58, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Be bold and remove it (if you really think it's fixed). If an editor thinks the problem still persists, they will replace it. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 01:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      be bold about it and remove them if you feel you have addressed the concerns. However, I suggest that you also bring it to the talk page so alert major editors to your changes. Wisdom89 (T / C) 01:01, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Thanks for the help! I will do all of the above. Fribbler (talk) 01:05, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      I am looking for someone who can help me edit the Infobox_Public_transit template. It contains two fields (began_operation and ended_operation). I think these fields would be better represented by just one "years_active" field because it would give the ability to indicate years of inactive service (such as 1977 - 2000, 2002 - Present).

      I don't know how to make these edits. Would someone mind helping me out? FOR GREAT JUSTICE. (talk · contribs) 02:38, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Before changing a template such as {{Infobox Public transit}}, discuss what you want to do on its talk page (Template talk:Infobox Public transit) to get consensus with other editors. Also check the backlinks: Special:Whatlinkshere/Infobox Public transit to see how many pages currently use the template with any fields you want to eliminate. Generally, it's easier to add new fields to an infobox template than to remove or rename existing fields, because removing or renaming fields will break the infobox on pages that use those fields. If you are new to template editing, read Help:Template, Help:Magic words, and Help:Parserfunctions several times; copy the template to your own sandbox page (such as User:Account9000/Sandbox), and practice editing it there. If you screw up the real template, you can mess up dozens of pages at once, so always practice in a sandbox until you know what you are doing. Editing templates is not too terribly hard, as long as you start with a template that is close to what you want. However, some templates use "intricate" syntax, which gets ugly. --Teratornis (talk) 04:46, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Sortable tables

      I am seeking some help with sortable tables. With sortable tables, each column is sorted alphabetically and/or numerically. But what if I wanted to sort a particular column by it's rank in a particular hierarchy (take airports for example; hubs would be ranked first, then focus cities, then simply ordinary airports. How would I go about ordering these?--M W Johnson 04:23, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Maybe: Help:Sorting#Sorting with hidden sortkey or one of the other methods on the page. --Teratornis (talk) 04:36, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      I will give it a go, will update on how it went. Thanks.--M W Johnson 08:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      Worked beautifully! Thanks.--M W Johnson 08:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      ”an” or “a” historic

      My apologies for this question on detail, but I’ve launched a few articles later changed specifically from use of “a historic” to “an historic”. In section 5.202 of the Chicago Manual of Style (CMOS) 15th ed. on use of a & an, it says “The word historical and its variations cause missteps, but since the h in these words is pronounced, it takes an a {an hourlong talk at a historical society}.” Thus, according to CMOS, “a historic” is correct.

      Based on this, I have two questions:

      1. Is there somewhere in Wikipedia that says editors should use “an historic” or am I correct in using the CMOS guidance of “a historic”? I looked in the Wikipedia Manual of style & didn’t see anything on this point.

      2. Is CMOS a good manual of style to use for areas not covered by the Wikipedia Manual of Style?

      Thanks, FieldMarine (talk) 04:25, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      For some reason I want to say an hero. FOR GREAT JUSTICE. (talk · contribs) 04:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      1.)You are correct. If the h is silent, it gets "an". If not, it's "a". I think. 2.)If it's not on the MoS, you should probably use CMOS, unless CMOS has a reputation of not following some common rules, etc. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 05:06, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      where to buy music "More than Wonderful"?

      Does anyone know where to buy an online music sheet for SATB with piano accompaniment for "More than Wonderful", must be arranged by Phil Perkins and composed by Lanny Wolfe. Many thanks. « Gonzo fan2007 (talkcontribs) 06:01, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      about my editing on Crepes

      HI!

      I try to edit on Crepes but nothing has been accepted..

      I added one new picture and a limk for the topic "Crepes" but it was been deleted. Could you explain to me why?

      Thank you ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 07:54, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      What were the picture and link (I need the image link and URL to determine the problem). ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 07:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      Printed page margins too small

      When printing a page the left and right margins are smaller than the HP Deskjet 5550 printer can accomodate. The first two characters on the left are not printed as well the last two characters on the right.

      How can i get the printed page to print with larger margins.

      06:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)75.22.33.94 (talk)

      If you have the manual, that is probably the best idea. You could also try changing your margins on whatever page you are trying to print (assuming you are trying to print a word document). You may want to try the reference desk though, as the Help desk is for answering question about using Wikipedia. Best of luck to you. « Gonzo fan2007 (talkcontribs) 06:58, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

      hi

      i want purshase a mixer and i need to any informed from you.we need mixer for a base wash material.i am from iran.thanks.my email:<removed> ...... Dendodge.TalkHelp 07:55, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]