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This template addresses the same issue as [[Template:Unbalanced]]. There is just a minor wording difference between the two. I would like to propose that the two templates be merged together. [[User:Alpha Quadrant|<span style="color:#000070; font-family: Times New Roman">'''''Alpha_Quadrant'''''</span>]] [[User talk:Alpha Quadrant|<span style="color:#00680B; font-family: Times New Roman"><sup>''(talk)''</sup></span>]] 01:51, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
This template addresses the same issue as [[Template:Unbalanced]]. There is just a minor wording difference between the two. I would like to propose that the two templates be merged together. [[User:Alpha Quadrant|<span style="color:#000070; font-family: Times New Roman">'''''Alpha_Quadrant'''''</span>]] [[User talk:Alpha Quadrant|<span style="color:#00680B; font-family: Times New Roman"><sup>''(talk)''</sup></span>]] 01:51, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
*They're not interchangeable. {{tl|Unbalanced}} specifically addresses viewpoints and indicated an editorial bias from the point of view of one side of an argument; {{tl|Cleanup-weighted}} addresses subject matter, and is useful on those occasions where an article is biased not in terms of editorial opinion, but more in terms of the importance given to specific parts of the subject. If the article on [[Bill Clinton]] was primarily written as an attack article, dealing with his bad points but not his good, it would require {{tl|unbalanced}}. If it dealt with his time as Governor of Arkansas more than his presidency, it would need {{tl|cleanup-weighted}}. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small><font color="#008822">[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]</font></small>'' 04:06, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
*They're not interchangeable. {{tl|Unbalanced}} specifically addresses viewpoints and indicated an editorial bias from the point of view of one side of an argument; {{tl|Cleanup-weighted}} addresses subject matter, and is useful on those occasions where an article is biased not in terms of editorial opinion, but more in terms of the importance given to specific parts of the subject. If the article on [[Bill Clinton]] was primarily written as an attack article, dealing with his bad points but not his good, it would require {{tl|unbalanced}}. If it dealt with his time as Governor of Arkansas more than his presidency, it would need {{tl|cleanup-weighted}}. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small><font color="#008822">[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?]]</font></small>'' 04:06, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' they don't seem the same to me. {{tl|Unbalanced}} is a {{tl|POV}} template, while {{tl|cleanup-weighted}} is different, such as an article on Kazakhstan covering the national hockey team for 90% of the text, clearly overly weighted to one aspect, but not necessarily unbalanced towards any particularly viewpoint. Rather, {{tl|unbalanced}} should be merged with {{tl|POV}} (say with "|unbalanced=yes" to add additional text to the POV message, or switch it out for a subtemplate {{tl|POV/unbalanced}} ). [[Special:Contributions/76.65.128.198|76.65.128.198]] ([[User talk:76.65.128.198|talk]]) 05:42, 21 December 2011 (UTC)


==== [[Template:POV-check-section]] ====
==== [[Template:POV-check-section]] ====

Revision as of 05:42, 21 December 2011

December 21

Template:1911 POV (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

All articles tagged with this maintenance template have been cleaned up. There are currently 0 transclusions. It is very unlikely there will ever be another tranclusion because there are few or no copied 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica articles left to be checked. I would like to propose that the template be redirected to Template:POV. Alpha_Quadrant (talk) 02:17, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Cleanup-weighted (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template addresses the same issue as Template:Unbalanced. There is just a minor wording difference between the two. I would like to propose that the two templates be merged together. Alpha_Quadrant (talk) 01:51, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • They're not interchangeable. {{Unbalanced}} specifically addresses viewpoints and indicated an editorial bias from the point of view of one side of an argument; {{Cleanup-weighted}} addresses subject matter, and is useful on those occasions where an article is biased not in terms of editorial opinion, but more in terms of the importance given to specific parts of the subject. If the article on Bill Clinton was primarily written as an attack article, dealing with his bad points but not his good, it would require {{unbalanced}}. If it dealt with his time as Governor of Arkansas more than his presidency, it would need {{cleanup-weighted}}. Grutness...wha? 04:06, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment they don't seem the same to me. {{Unbalanced}} is a {{POV}} template, while {{cleanup-weighted}} is different, such as an article on Kazakhstan covering the national hockey team for 90% of the text, clearly overly weighted to one aspect, but not necessarily unbalanced towards any particularly viewpoint. Rather, {{unbalanced}} should be merged with {{POV}} (say with "|unbalanced=yes" to add additional text to the POV message, or switch it out for a subtemplate {{POV/unbalanced}} ). 76.65.128.198 (talk) 05:42, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Template:POV-check-section (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

I have added section parameters to three main maintenance templates. Now that the main templates have support for sections, these individual section templates are fairly redundant to the main templates. I would like to propose that:

I second this proposal. Especially since these templates are relatively seldom used, and the usage of a |section parameter is widely spread. Debresser (talk) 01:43, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Template:PD-music (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant with the more-general Template:PD-old. Carnildo (talk) 00:57, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Non-free Minnesota Historical Society image (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Semmingly unused image licensing template, was this deprecated? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 00:42, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Non-free television commercial (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Seemingly unused Image licensing template, which is redundant to the more general template covering all TV derived screenshots. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 00:38, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Non-free Indian-politician-photo (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Seemingly unused image licensing template , was this deprecated? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 00:27, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Non-free GFDL-invariants (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Seemingly unused image licensing template. Was this deprecated? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 00:26, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Non-free EU website image (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Seemingly unused image licensing tag. Was this deprecated? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 00:24, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Non-free Disney image (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Seemingly unused image licensing tag, was this deprecated? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 00:23, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Non-free Denver Public Library image (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Seemingly unused image licensing tag, was this deprecated? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 00:22, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Template:2009 US flu pandemic image (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template is not used in article besides image which is outdated.JDOG555 (talk) 00:20, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]