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::Probably not a bad idea. I'll stop short of invoking [[WP:NOTNAS|Poop_target]]. [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 22:31, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
::Probably not a bad idea. I'll stop short of invoking [[WP:NOTNAS|Poop_target]]. [[User:Toddst1|Toddst1]] <small>([[User talk: Toddst1|talk]])</small> 22:31, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Whatever DanielTom had to say, he can say it, as far as I'm concerned. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 02:38, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
:::Whatever DanielTom had to say, he can say it, as far as I'm concerned. [[User:Drmies|Drmies]] ([[User talk:Drmies|talk]]) 02:38, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
::::I'll agree with that Drmies, but as a young noob with some rather pompus conceptions of adminship, he's not going to endear himself to ''any'' admins. [[User:Kudpung|Kudpung กุดผึ้ง]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 07:55, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

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You know better

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Please feel free to not alter my edits. I responded exactly where I intended to, and your change made it appear like I was responding to someone else. If you'd like to change your own level of indentation given my current edits, I would be alright with you adjusting the level of indentation for my last response since it is a response to you. --Onorem (talk) 16:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry - appeared to be an error. Putting a space between the posts would make it easier to read. Toddst1 (talk) 17:37, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Easier to distinguish between 2 different replies maybe, but not easier to read when who the response is intended for is obscured. --Onorem (talk) 17:54, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Either way, no intent to offend. Toddst1 (talk) 18:17, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You could have fooled me. WTF? --Onorem (talk) 20:25, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe it's time for you to take a break. Accept the apology, assume good faith or otherwise go away. Toddst1 (talk) 20:27, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I was assuming good faith...then you shut down the discussion as "roadside carnage"...so who needs the break? --Onorem (talk) 20:47, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Stop drama-mongering and go away. You are now at the point of harassment. Toddst1 (talk) 20:49, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Last comment

I am not trolling. I am disagreeing with you on a subject that you aren't willing to discuss. I won't respond or reply again, but you are abusing your position and it's sad. I'm fighting with a tin sword because you have the power and answer to nobody, so have fucking fun with it. Fuck you. - Onorem (talk) 20:55, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note for the record: No administrative actions were taken by me in the kerfuffle that Onorem accuses me of abusing power in. I did, however apologize, clarify my apology and ask for the invective to cease. Toddst1 (talk) 19:15, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]


The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

May 2013

Information icon Please be careful about what you say to people. Some remarks can easily be misinterpreted. Wikipedia is a supportive environment, where contributors should feel comfortable and safe while editing. Thank you. Comments like this one are inappropriate, particularly from an administrator. In the future, I hope as an administrator that you will choose to either try to deescalate any tensions that may exist or stay out of the matter altogether if you have no involvement in it, such as in this case. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 17:24, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't see you being thumped like a narc at a biker rally, but things like that certainly happens pretty frequently at ANI. Toddst1 (talk) 17:39, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Please stop attacking other editors. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. I'll ask you again to please stop your personal insults as you did with this comment. Referring to an editor as a "troll" without providing any support for the allegation is a personal attack. As an administrator, I would hope that you would set a proper example by treating other editors in a civil manner, and deescalating any tensions that may be present, rather than increasing them. Thank you. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 00:03, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Stop icon This is your last warning. The next time you make personal attacks on other people, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. Because of this edit summary and this edit summary, this is your third warning. I also see that you removed your second warning and then restored it, which is certainly your prerogative, but the record will indicate your ongoing pattern of posting hostile comments. I am not the only editor who has warned you about this inappropriate behavior, and I don't know why you continue to do it, but please stop. Thank you. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 00:22, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Do you even know what trolling is? WP:NOTHERE is starting to emerge. Toddst1 (talk) 00:26, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

“Dynamic IP”

Hello! Where did you get evidences that it is a dynamic IP? I see only

155.109.189.76.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer cpe-76-189-109-155.neo.res.rr.com.

, whois also does not inform about type of allocation, and observational evidences suggest that this IP does not change frequently. BTW, I would ask you to watch my talk page for several days. I have a feeling that something nasty is going to happen. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 13:12, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Try this. Toddst1 (talk) 14:55, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
To my understanding (which formed when I defended an IRC network from floodbots and other threats), a truly dynamic IP is something which changes with a reasonable frequency, or at least on each DHCP request. Many IP ranges are dynamic in theory, but IPs change very infrequently. For example, one of my current ISPs changed my IP only five or six times for 5 years, and I am easily able to keep forward DNS records pointing to it. I’d prefer to term such IPs practically static, although they can be technically dynamic. In any case, observational evidences should have priority over a third-party information. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 15:20, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
See sticky dynamic IP addresses. Toddst1 (talk) 15:22, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
For some inexplicable reason, Incnis Mrsi continues to instigate problems where I'm concerned. I'm not sure what his obsession with me is, but he really needs to move on. Although he has attempted to make it very difficult to find his many prior talk page threads, as Drmies pointed out, once you find them it will show that he has a long, ongoing pattern of battling many edtiors and hurling uncivil comments. I would also refer you to this discussion from his talk page. And this discussion on Drmies' talk page. By the way, I find it ironic that he said, "I would ask you to watch my talk page for several days. I have a feeling that something nasty is going to happen", since he continues to talk about me following his bogus warning to me, yet I moved on from it. Hopefully, he will finally do the same. The strange part of all this is that I never even crossed paths with Incnis prior to that warning he posted. In fact, I had never even seen his name. I also find it interesting that Incnis posted this comment on Drmies' talk page, yet did not notify me that he mentioned my name in this thread. For the record, if Incnis is so interested in knowing if an unregistered editor has a static or dynamic IP address, all he needs to do is go to the bottom of their contributions page or talk page, and click on the "Geolocate" link. I will also point out to him that his theory that "IPs change very infrequently" is false in many cases. My IP address typically changes an average of every two to five days, although it's sometimes up to about two weeks. However, there are a few times each year when my IP provider keeps it set for up to two months or so, but never more than that. I checked my records over the past year and the longest I ever had a particular IP address during that time is 42 days. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 01:09, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Some questions editors may wonder about: Why does Incnis care so much about whether my IP address is dynamic or not? Why would he go to an admin's page to start a discussion about my IP type (or any unregistered editor's)? Why is it of any concern to him at all? He obviously thought carefully about it being seen as inappropiate or potentially igniting further problems, as evidenced by his request to Todd to watch his "talk page for several days" because he has "a feeling that something nasty is going to happen". So one would certainly question his purpose. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 02:59, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
76.189.109.155, what a real Wikipedian could do in this situation is to drop the stick. Or WP:NOTHERE, which started to emerge two days ago, now slightly emboldened? Incnis Mrsi (talk) 05:43, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Let's be clear about a couple things. First, I was the one who moved on. But you continued making comments about me in various places. So who had the problem "dropping the stick"? You are the one who started this thread about me (without my knowledge). So for you to claim it is inappropriate for me to reply is utter nonsense. From now on, if you're going to go to an admin (or anyone else) to talk about another editor behind their back, expect a full response. As expected, you answered none of the relevant questions and of course cannot deny any of the evidence I presented. It is rather interesting that you don't want to tell us why you are so interested in whether my IP address is dynamic or not. Or why you were concerned that "something nasty" was going to happen as a result of your starting this thread. In terms of your hostile claim that WP:NOTHERE applies to me, I suggest you re-read this comment from admin Drmies, in which he described me as "a valuable contributor" in this discussion where he reprimanded you for your inappropriate behavior towards me. I hope you've learned a lesson from this situation. Now we'll see if you decide to move on. If you do, you won't hear from me again. If not, you will. --76.189.109.155 (talk) 07:24, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Posting on talk pages and deleting pages

I am happy to discuss your changes first on your talk page before considering other actions endorsed by Wikipedia policy. In the last two days you have consistently gone to many of the pages that I have visited and either deleted content with pithy explanations or completely deleted the page altogether. Your last redirect/deletion referenced the inappropriateness of "fan-pages". Please show me that link, and while I review, consider the following sites that appear to fit your definition of "fan-pages":

2013–14 Manchester United F.C. season New Zealand national rugby union team (sevens) 2013 Women's Cricket World Cup 2013–14 Duke Blue Devils men's basketball team 2011–12 Los Angeles Lakers season 2013_New_York_Giants_season

Additionally, I looked at your "Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not" link and have a couple of questions based on what is stated there.

1. "Wikipedia is not a place to hold grudges, import personal conflicts, carry on ideological battles, or nurture prejudice, hatred, or fear. Making personal battles out of Wikipedia discussions goes directly against our policies and goals. In addition to avoiding battles in discussions, do not try to advance your position in disagreements by making changes to content or policies, and do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point."

You appear to be carrying a grudge and disrupting Wikipedia to make your point. In fact, I feel like you are waging a personal battle against me.

2. "Wikipedia is a volunteer community and does not require the Wikipedians to give any more time and effort than they wish. Focus on improving the encyclopedia itself, rather than demanding more from other Wikipedians. Editors are free to take a break or leave Wikipedia at any time."

I do not believe your efforts focus on improving Wikipedia. Instead, by looking over your historical postings, it appears you consistently go to talk pages instead of adding content or making helpful suggestions.

3. "Do not use Wikipedia to make legal or other threats against Wikipedia, Wikipedians, or the Wikimedia Foundation—other means already exist to communicate legal problems.[6] Threats are not tolerated and may result in a ban."

You have already posted two threats to my talk page.

Finally, I note on my talk page another editor posted some helpful comments that add context to some of my "notes to editors" instead of maliciously redirecting pages. Thank you for your time. I am putting the pages back up and posting the issue on the talk page as is my understanding of Wikipedia policy to do so. gounc123 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gounc123 (talkcontribs)

Have you even read the discussion on ANI about you? Toddst1 (talk) 18:48, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see your edits, and subsequent self-revert, on my talk-page. Are we in agreement on this editor and his unsourced edits, or have I missed something?--Anthony Bradbury"talk" 18:57, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We're in agreement. They were sourced but fraudulently. See details at User_talk:Thomas.W#Edit_war_on_Glock. Thanks mate. Toddst1 (talk) 18:59, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I had already established that! Trust me! --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 19:09, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What? Trust an admin? That's heresy! Just ask my fan club - you can start with the hit parade above. Toddst1 (talk) 19:11, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
OK. It's probably the wine talking, anyway. (Mine, not yours). --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 19:15, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Blocks

I've declined a request on one of your recent blocks. [1] On the flip side, Jennie seems to "get it" although she hasn't requested an unblock yet.[2]. Kind of refreshing when someone isn't hostile after a block. Dennis Brown - - © - @ - Join WER 22:16, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of blocks, I'm not so sure that your removal of DanielTom's talk page access was a good idea. As frustrating as it may be, it could be considered an involved action. IMO, saying that Drmies should be desysoped, while absurd, isn't such a personal attack as to warrant talk page revocation. Totally up to you; I'm not crying foul over this quite yet, but it might be a good idea to consider restoring talk page access. Writ Keeper  22:27, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Probably not a bad idea. I'll stop short of invoking Poop_target. Toddst1 (talk) 22:31, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever DanielTom had to say, he can say it, as far as I'm concerned. Drmies (talk) 02:38, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'll agree with that Drmies, but as a young noob with some rather pompus conceptions of adminship, he's not going to endear himself to any admins. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:55, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]