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According to allgame, it's "Nintendo R&D4" : http://www.allgame.com/game.php?id=1320. According to Mobygames, it's "Nintendo Co., Ltd." and "Systems Research & Development Co., Ltd." : https://www.mobygames.com/game/nes/super-mario-bros. The other databases (such as Gamefaqs and Giant Bomb) only list "Nintendo". Which one should be listed here ? [[User:Hell Pé|Hell Pé]] ([[User talk:Hell Pé|talk]]) 20:01, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
According to allgame, it's "Nintendo R&D4" : http://www.allgame.com/game.php?id=1320. According to Mobygames, it's "Nintendo Co., Ltd." and "Systems Research & Development Co., Ltd." : https://www.mobygames.com/game/nes/super-mario-bros. The other databases (such as Gamefaqs and Giant Bomb) only list "Nintendo". Which one should be listed here ? [[User:Hell Pé|Hell Pé]] ([[User talk:Hell Pé|talk]]) 20:01, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

: I recommend checking Wikipedia's own article on [[Nintendo]]. It clearly lists all of Nintendo's Research & Development teams which fall under the umbrella of [[Nintendo EAD]].

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Gamasutra Article suggesting either NA date as October 19 or November 17, 1985

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/167392/sad_but_true_we_cant_prove_when_.php — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.22.190.252 (talk) 14:23, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Emphasis on suggesting. Drawing reasonable conclusions based on navigating a series of conflicting sources is a wonderful and informative intellectual exercise but does not, in fact, provide a factually certain release date. While those findings could certainly be discussed in the body of the article, they provide no help for the infobox, because even well-researched and well-reasoned speculation is still speculation. Indrian (talk) 17:19, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm.. Maybe I should have discussed this here first, but I've added the above ref to the release date. The ref does back up the 1985 date given in the article and it is a listed RS unlike the Mushroom Kingdom (currently listed as situational) which uses Wikipedia in its list of sources (EDIT: To be fair, it's attributed and not taken as fact). The Gamasutra article was inspired by the Mushroom Kingdom piece so there may be a little redundancy, but overall I think it adds to the reader's understanding of the problem more than it detracts. If there is a problem with it then please remove it. -Thibbs (talk) 12:59, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No problem at all; it is a good piece with solid research. The only problem would be using this to add a specific date in the infobox since there is nothing definitive in the research. In the body of the article or as an additional source for a 1985 release date is just fine. Indrian (talk) 15:13, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

North American Release Date of Super Mario Bros. in NES

I think its real that the release date is Oct. 18. Stop undoing it. I found it on gamespot and that site is legit! — Preceding unsigned comment added by EncycloAgainstWiki (talk • contribs) 09:30, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GameSpot may be a reliable source, but so are many others that have different release dates. Which one's correct? There in lies the problem. There are too many conflicting sources to give a definite release date in NA. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 15:06, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. I am sorry if I started a war just by a release date. I am not going to undo until we found the real release date... — Preceding unsigned comment added by EncycloAgainstWiki (talk • contribs) 01:35, 10 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, Nintendo itself says October 18, as was published in its Super Mario History: 1985-2010 booklet that was included in Super Mario All-Stars 25th Anniversary Edition. I would think that would add some weight, even if it is a primary source for such information. --McDoobAU93 15:25, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, check the archives. There was a whole discussion regarding that already, there's nobody left there from back then, they just get their info from a canned database, and it conflicts with a host of other info including Nintnedo's own copyright filings from the time. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 04:07, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That answers my question ... thanks! --McDoobAU93 15:10, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm back with another legitimate source that I don't think has been mentioned in the discussion before. I'd looked at the copyright database before, but never at the US trademark database (http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=searchss&state=4801:atkahe.1.1). It's entry for Super Mario Bros. lists 19851018 as the first use in commerce, much like the entries for Nintendo Entertainment System itself and other searchable launch titles like Clu Clu Land, Wild Gunman, and Wrecking Crew. --Brideck (talk) 19:17, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

when was it included with the NES, and how many copies did it sell before then?

Were its high sales figures only because it was freely included with the Nintendo after a certain time period? Did it sell well before then? This information would be good to have in the article if anyone knows the answer. Dream Focus 09:13, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Release date, again...

I just reverted an edit saying that Super Mario Bros. came out on October 18th 1985, without discussing first. As there was a 'Don't change this without agreement' template, I deleted the info. If anyone has problems, leave it on my talk page. Darrman1 (talk) 14:35, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Who developed Super Mario Bros. ?

According to allgame, it's "Nintendo R&D4" : http://www.allgame.com/game.php?id=1320. According to Mobygames, it's "Nintendo Co., Ltd." and "Systems Research & Development Co., Ltd." : https://www.mobygames.com/game/nes/super-mario-bros. The other databases (such as Gamefaqs and Giant Bomb) only list "Nintendo". Which one should be listed here ? Hell Pé (talk) 20:01, 24 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend checking Wikipedia's own article on Nintendo. It clearly lists all of Nintendo's Research & Development teams which fall under the umbrella of Nintendo EAD.
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