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Suggested links for the official apps

I just commented at Talk:List of Wikipedia mobile applications (section: F-Droid or Google Play?) about the opportunity of including a link to F-Droid,s version of the official app (besides Google Play's) on the main page (I mean https://www.wikipedia.org/).

I am leaving the suggestion there, as it is also a consistency issue between that article and the main page, but I am not sure if/where I have to report specifically for changes to the main page.194.230.155.139 (talk) 14:57, 14 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata churning

I believe this is the complaints section? For another illustration of how broken Wikidata is, consider COSI which is showing a not-very-helpful error ("Lua error in Module:Mapframe at line 379: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'lat_d' (a nil value)") in the infobox. That error was caused by a 9 March 2021 edit by DeltaBot at Wikidata: diff ("move claim coordinate location (P625) -> headquarters location (P159)"). In other words, an article here using the optimistic {{Wikidatacoord}} to get coordinates from Wikidata will break if something decides the coordinates actually should be called something else. Presumably, from the point of view of the Wikidata design, the error is the fault of the enwiki template which should know to try getting coordinates from each of the dozen different places where they might be applied, now or in the future. Johnuniq (talk) 09:12, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Same at Akita University of Art and Joetsu University of Education. Johnuniq (talk) 09:25, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
COSI fixed by swapping to {{WikidataCoord_hqlocation}}, but the university infoboxes seem to have the coord handling embedded in the template. Now, we could just swap that, but what if some other places haven't had the coords moved on Wikidata... ƒirefly ( t · c ) 10:06, 15 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I just spent a long time working out why five articles are displaying "No value was provided for longitude" errors: 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5. It's because d:Q21578 had the same bot edit to rename the coordinates entry. @Sdkb: As the author of Template:U.S. News top 10, I was going to drop the problem on you when I worked out the problem. What can be done? Johnuniq (talk) 06:19, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Johnuniq, ugh. I complained to Wikidata. It looks like they're hopefully going to sort it out. If you want it solved immediately for that particular template, change the lines with {{wikidata|property|raw|page={{{1}}}|coord}} here so that they accept coordinates that are qualifiers of P159 rather than just given as P625. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 07:21, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Call for volunteers to join national juries of Wiki Loves Africa

Hello

I summarized our need and the rationale here c:Commons talk:Wiki Loves Africa 2021/jury. In short, last year, some national teams have asked for help from Commonists (from other countries !) to join the selection juries. We would wholeheartedly welcome a handfull of volunteers, speaking either of those languages: English, Arabic and French. I am sharing with you last year list of local teams who run a selection process Commons:Wiki Loves Africa 2020/National winners. I think that this year they will be less numerous though, but they will be from these countries pool. Add your name if you have super skills in photography and if you are willing to help ! Thanks in advance Anthere (talk) 13:09, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How can we know the anniversary of the Spanish Wikipedia?

Hello, I am a Wikipedian of the Spanish Wikipedia. We have been arguing at our village pump for weeks because we cannot agree on the date of our 20th anniversary. Some say May 11, others May 18, others May 20 ... and others directly want to celebrate the entire month of May. I appeal to the English Wikipedia for help...! Isn't there a way that we can clearly know the precise day? Thanks. –El Mono Español (talk) 13:36, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like the disagreement is about whether to consider the "founding" to be when the website was established (May 11) or when the first people showed up to write articles (more than a week later). Interesting question, but I don't think people here will know any better than people there. --Yair rand (talk) 15:02, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_187#The_French_Wikipedia's_birthdate may be interesting, but I otherwise agree with Yair rand. Izno (talk) 15:20, 18 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately the earliest Spanish Wikipedia database dump with history appears to be from May 2003, so it won't be useful here. Graham87 08:02, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Manual of Style about the capitalisation of internet

Information icon There is currently a discussion on the Manual of Style talk page about whether or not to capitalise internet when referring to the Internet; if you wish to participate, please see Wikipedia_talk:Manual of style#The capitalisation of "Internet" (referring to the global interconnected network generally used today). Thank you. DesertPipeline (talk) 13:00, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at MediaWiki talk:Linkshere about adding a link to LinkCount to WhatLinksHere

Information icon There is currently a discussion at MediaWiki talk:Linkshere regarding adding a link to LinkCount to the WhatLinksHere special page, any feedback about the tool is also welcome. See MediaWiki talk:Linkshere#Protected edit request on 8 March 2021 to participate. Thank you. BrandonXLF (talk) 17:58, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Call for review, comment and discuss my PhD thesis on Wikimedia movement

Hello,

Just a short message to call people interested to review, comment and discuss my PhD thesis on Wikimedia movement. All the best, Lionel Scheepmans Contact (French native speaker) 19:28, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Should ORES be aggressive to catch vandalism or should ORES be less aggressive to be nice to newcomers?

Imagine you’ve just spent 10 minutes working on what you earnestly thought would be a helpful edit to your favorite article. You click that bright blue “Publish changes” button for the very first time, and you see your edit go live! Weeee! But 10 seconds later, you refresh the page and discover that your edit has been reverted.

Actually, an AI system - called ORES- has contributed to the judgement of hundreds of thousands of edits on Wikipedia. ORES is a machine learning system that automatically predicts edit and article quality to support editing tools in Wikipedia.

I'm exploring strategies for tuning ORES predictions about quality and vandalism to your needs and I'd like to work with you. I am are looking for editors to discuss the values of Wikipedia as it relates to ORES.

If you are interested in participating, please fill out the short survey below. Thanks! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe7itK8GM6Y7vgWdtcFXXnsJ8iWe9ysjQI8S1KVtomfonbkxw/viewform --EpochFail (talkcontribs) 19:58, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]