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A comment regarding this edit. The date and the founding members are contested and there is no clear evidence that Abdallah Azzam really attended the alleged foundation meeting (he was not even an al-Qaeda member).
Precisely when al-Qaida was founded is not clear. Until recently, it was believed that the group emerged in August 1988, because the Tareekh Osama collection contains documents that can be interpreted that way.
However, this appears to be a misinterpretation, as Mustafa Hamid and Leah Farrall have also argued. For one, the content of the three documents is not what one might expect from the record of a constituent assembly. The language is vague, at times almost cryptic, and the tone of the recorded discussion is polemic rather than unified and enthusiastic. [...] A more plausible interpretation of the three documents is therefore that they record meetings in which representatives of an already existing al-Qaida organization unveiled their new plans to representatives of the Services Bureau so as to get their approval and coordinate their activities with them. This would explain why the unnamed sheikh in the 11 August meeting – who was most likely Tamim al-Adnani (more on this below) – comes across as so defensive of the status quo. It also would explain the presence of Abu Burhan and Tamim al-Adnani in the latter meetings. This interpretation is strengthened by two other sources which suggest that al-Qaida had been founded before the August 1988 meeting. One is the testimony of Mustafa Hamid, who says the group had been founded in the autumn of 1987. The other is Madani al-Tayyib, who told Lawrence Wright that he had joined al-Qaida on 17 May 1988, leading Wright to note that “the organizational meeting on August 11 only brought to the surface what was already covertly under way.” On balance, then, al-Qaida appears to have been founded earlier than previously believed, although it is not possible to specify a foundation date. Early 1988 seems a good bet, but any time between August 1987 and July 1988 is conceivable.
Abdallah Azzam has often been described as a “co-founder of al-Qaida,” but this is almost certainly inaccurate. In fact, there is no evidence to suggest that he was anything more than an observer during the emergence of the new group. The confusion about Azzam’s relationship with al-Qaida has two origins. The first is the article titled “al-qa‘ida al-sulba” (the Solid Base) which Azzam wrote in al-Jihad magazine in April 1988. Some analysts have interpreted this article as a concept paper for an al-Qaida organization, but it is not. The article merely says Afghanistan is the territorial base on which the Islamist movement must establish itself before it can make further conquests. The second source of confusion has been the Tareekh Osama documents. Lawrence Wright and others have suggested that Azzam attended or even initiated the first of the August 1988 meetings which, in their interpretation, led to the foundation of al-Qaida. However, as we have seen, these meetings were probably not about the founding of al-Qaida in the first place. Moreover, the evidence for Azzam’s presence there is slim, as he is not mentioned explicitly as an attendee in any of the three key Tareekh Osama documents.
MH: To my knowledge this meeting in 1988 was not to form al-Qaeda, because the organisation was already in the process of being established. It was to form a joint Arab Council to oversee the work in the Arab-Afghan yard, which at that time had a number of issues relating to mismanagement and disorganisation, as well as disagreements as to who should be in charge of what. LF: Yes, that was my interpretation too, particularly since bin Laden’s remark looks to be part of a conversation about the performance of the Arab-Afghans: how time had passed and things were still not organised and goals were not met in the military work. In that context, the conversation looks to be about solidifying what was already in place for al-Qaeda, and streamlining training and membership selection processes, as well as planning and coordinating the work. [...] LF: Just to clarify: the group existed before the training started on this practical path Abu Ubaydah wanted, but it was not fully organised? MH: Yes, as I said, after Jaji people rushed to join al-Qaeda; it was not prepared for this and it took some time for the work to be organised, especially in the training.
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Change "fatawas" in the first sentence of paragraph 3 to either fatawa or fatāwā. This is already the plural form; a final "s" is redundant and incorrect. Even "fatwas" (used elsewhere in the article) would be better than what's currently there. 2600:1700:3EC7:4150:3CD2:E660:A0DF:A704 (talk) 03:35, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ~~ lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me) 17:32, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
