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This article has been mentioned by a media organization: Ana Kasparian & Cenk Uygur (September 27, 2015). "Rogue Editors Are Blackmailing People's Wikipedia Pages". The Young Turks.

Within the "Views" section, "fiance" needs to be replaced with "finance", both times that it is used incorrectly.

Fixed it. However it would have been easier for you to fix it, rather than stating it here and waiting for someone else to see your comment. Unless you're not an auto-confirmed user. Daxri

This recently-added section has serious BLP issues; I tried to address them with more minor edits, but since someone reverted I've killed the entire section for now per WP:STATUSQUO given the severity of the problem. Do not restore it without an unambiguous consensus. My specific issues are:

• The sources focus entirely on the name of the Young Turks; "Criticism on the Armenian genocide" does not accurately reflect the sources. Additionally, it violates WP:CSECTION. Accusing someone of genocide denial, even implicitly, is a WP:BLP-sensitive claim that requires high-quality sourcing saying so unambiguously.
• This text claims the name was "taken from a Turkish political movement", which is nowhere in the source. The activists in question merely objected because it reminded them of that movement. Since this is being used to implicate Kasparian, it is a BLP-sensitive claim without a proper source (ie. the implication is that she intentionally chose the name based on that movement, which has no cite.)
• This line has clear WP:SAY problems; "accused" casts doubt on what she's saying.
• This uses WP:SYNTH to imply that Kasparian has been accused of something equivalent to supporting Nazis. The source only says Kasparian may be at peace with the name, but other Armenians feel differently. Note the "may"; it doesn't even fully support the first part (Kasparian has indicated she is fine with the use of the name... But combining it with the second part (...which a spokesman for the Armenian National Committee of America equated to a show broadcasting under the name "The Young Nazis"), which isn't even in that source, is severe WP:SYNTH in a way that clearly violates BLP. Implicitly comparing someone to a Nazi requires extremely high-quality sourcing.
• This source is an opinion-piece from a non-expert, so it should not be used to make controversial claims about WP:BLPs in the first place (and obviously complacency in genocide denial is a severe accusation that requires better sourcing.) Worse, the source itself does not say that. Ignoring the headline (which is unusable per WP:HEADLINES and which, in any case, does not mention genocide denial), it accuses Ugyhr, not her, and even then only implicitly For example, she is first to ridicule conservatives for being immoral swine yet she sits next to a Uygur, who’s famous for remarks like “women want to be lied to,” his contempt for intellectuals like Sam Harris and his silence on the Armenian Genocide. As we know, silence is considered the final phase of genocide denial, as it signals acceptance. Again, this is an extremely serious accusation and requires a far better source than this.

I tried to address these issues, but since the changes were reverted and the section is both relatively recent and contains multiple serious BLP issues, I've killed it for now; we cannot workshop so many serious BLP issues in the article itself (especially given that the WP:SYNTH one in particular is extremely severe; every part of that sentence has problems, both individually and as a whole, and the sum total of it is a severe BLP-sensitive accusation which is for all practical purposes not meaningfully sourced.) If you have any fixed versions, propose them here and gain consensus for restoring them per WP:BLP. If you disagree that this is a BLP issue we can take it to BLPN, but it seems unambiguous to me. --Aquillion (talk) 22:27, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've restored the section with these concerns addressed. Pinging ZaniGiovanni in case he objects to the rewritten section. Chetsford (talk) 23:00, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Chetsford thank you for the effort and actually trying to address the issues, and not removing entire parts of the article. One concern I have:

"Kasparian may be at peace with the name, but other Armenians feel differently.".^[1]

Could you please restore this with source that was lost in the edits? with wording in accordance to the source of course. Best regards, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 04:18, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Have just come across this discussion and I'm wondering whether it should include what the founder, Cenk Uyger, says is the origin of the name The Young Turks? Ref: https://www.pastemagazine.com/politics/the-young-turks/why-cenk-uygur-is-getting-confronted-about-the-nam (this link is used as a source in the Naming Controversy section on the Young Turks page Scorpiousdelectus (talk) 06:35, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Subject's recent actions, including her outbursts on twitter, which were widely as transphobic, and her appearance on a right-wing podcast, where she spread misinformation about gender-affirming care, made disparaging comments about the unhoused and expressed views sympathetic towards the Kenosha shooter have attracted a lot of criticism, and even caused TYT employees to resign. This is a relevant controversy, which will need to be covered at one point. 46.97.170.32 (talk) 08:51, 12 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As always, this must wait for WP:RS coverage. Especially given the number of quote excerpts with missing context floating around. Connor Behan (talk) 16:07, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure how appearing on a right wing podcast qualifies as a "quote excerpt with missing context". 46.97.170.32 (talk) 09:33, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct that podcast appearances and quote excerpts (taken either from Twitter, said podcast, or TYT) are different things. Connor Behan (talk) 21:48, 26 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what further context is needed for her saying that if she had been in Kyle RIttenhouse's place, she would've done the same thing. That sentence alone speaks for itself. So is her claim that puberty blockers are not reversible and medical professionals are lying. These are things she said, in the context of giving her honest opinion to a pair of right wing influencers during a podcast. 46.97.170.32 (talk) 09:21, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]