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A fact from The Last of Us Part II appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 6 December 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows: Did you know... that the themes of violence in The Last of Us Part II were inspired by Neil Druckmann's (pictured) memories of watching footage of the 2000 Ramallah lynching? A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Last of Us Part II.

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 14:16, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Neil Druckmann

• ... that, for the final months of the development of The Last of Us Part II, Naughty Dog was forced to work from home due to the COVID-19 pandemic? Source: GQ
  • ALT1:... that the themes of The Last of Us Part II were inspired by writer Neil Druckmann's (pictured) experiences growing up in Israel? Source: GQ
  • ALT2:... that the themes of violence in The Last of Us Part II were inspired by Neil Druckmann's (pictured) memories of watching the 2000 Ramallah lynching? Source: The New York Times
  • ALT3:... that The Last of Us Part II was the subject of review bombing on Metacritic, resulting in a user review score of 3.4/10 at its nadir? Source: VG247
  • ALT4:... that The Last of Us Part II is the fastest-selling PlayStation 4 exclusive game, with over four million copies sold in its release weekend? Source: Push Square

• Reviewed: Super Mario Bros. 35
• Comment: Image only used with ALT1 and ALT2

Improved to Good Article status by Rhain (talk). Self-nominated at 02:07, 6 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

• Recently promoted to GA status (neutral, long, no copyright issues), QPQ done, hook is interesting and cited, preference for ALT 2. Good work! Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 15:38, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There seems to be a bit of edit warring going on over the issue of whether or not there should be a sequel section on this article. I noted in the edit summary to please bring up the topic here on the talk page, but my comment has been ignored. User:Rhain claims that Neil Druckman is not a reliable source to cite regarding information he shared about a possible sequel to the game. They also claim that the information is a "throwaway I've thought about it comment" which seems to indicate that they didn't consult the source, since this is not true per Druckman's comments. Rhain's assertion that the information is "Unnecessary and not notable" is their own POV, violating Wikipedia's WP:NPOV policy. Recommend a third party review the addition to weigh in per WP:3O. —scarecroe (talk) 23:20, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Rhain that it doesn't seem like a major element worthy of inclusion here, at least not its own subsection, per WP:DUE. Feels speculative and inconsequential at this point. Popcornfud (talk) 23:44, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It also seems that you don't really understand WP:NPOV, which doesn't prevent editors from having opinions about how articles should be written. Popcornfud (talk) 23:45, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed with Rhain on this, it would be indiscriminate to list everything Neil or similar says about a potential sequel. Wait until official confirmation, then note it. Also, you can't just note in an edit summary to come here and expect that to not be "ignored", the WP:ONUS is on you as supporting inclusion of content to gain consensus for it, plus going against the WP:STATUSQUO. Thanks, Indagate (talk) 09:31, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the moderation here is bizarre.....

There's a handful of other videogames & films w/ a "potential sequel" tab, so why can't TLOU2 get that luxury? 2601:1C2:1500:5190:2079:E15C:3EB0:9A64 (talk) 19:32, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@SuperSalamander5434: In the interest of avoiding more edit warring, please feel free to voice your issues with the article's content here. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 22:32, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@GylonVisagie: I know you're not a fan of this article's Legacy section (or me), but in light of these recent edits, please share your specific concerns here. The section is consistent with the first game and the Manual of Style, so I think its inclusion here is logical. These edits also introduced several formatting errors and removed about a dozen references. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 22:53, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm unsure whether to include Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw's review^[1] of this game. His review may be significant. Also, him calling it the worst game of 2020^[2] may be significant. Also, in the "References" section, should he be credited as Ben Croshaw or Yahtzee Croshaw? Ss0jse (talk) 20:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think there's a tendency to avoid Croshaw's reviews since they're typically more comedic in nature (. I suppose it depends if his review says anything notable that isn't already discussed elsewhere. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 22:42, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]