Talk:Turkish wine

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Does any one know if the other civilizations that once lived in Asia Minor had developed grain and wine industries. I am quite sure about the Roman/Byzantine period but what about the Hittites...did they grow grapes? AdrianCo (talk) 14:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)AdrianCo[reply]

Great questions. Unfortunately I've exhausted all my wine related resources but from what I can gleam, it seemed that Turkey had a vibrant wine culture prior to the end of the Byzantine empire. It's just hard to find sources that expound more on it. I'd love to see what maybe the Turkey project could find out. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 14:17, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wine was important in Ancient Greece. Starting around 750 BC the Greeks colonized the Aegean coast of Anatolia, the Greek name for Asia Minor. As the area is very usable for viticulture, there can be no doubt they also introduced it there. Likewise, Persia was very early in wine-making, and the Achaemenid Empire must therefore have practiced it when Anatolia was under their control. Note that I have no direct evidence, but nevertheless it is inconceivable that these civilizations did not grow grapes and make wine in Asia Minor.  --Lambiam 22:34, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have some info on the hittites also? AdrianCo (talk) 22:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)AdrianCo[reply]

If you Google hittites+wine, you get plenty of hits suggesting that there is strong evidence of the Hittites having known wine.  --Lambiam

Well then, you both have more knowledege then i...so why not start a History of wine in Asia Minor part...? AdrianCo (talk) 16:57, 21 December 2007 (UTC)AdrianCo[reply]

I'll add it to my list. :) But probably a good start would be to add some info to the History of wine article. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 17:20, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article gives the false impression that during pre-republic times there were not wine culture in Turkey. That is not true. Ottoman Turks also had wine. Famous traveller Evliya Çelebi wrote about wine production in different regions. Istanbul had naighborhoods famous for bars (like Karaköy). 88.240.230.156 (talk) 21:45, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Turkey did not exist until 1923. The Turks are an overwhelmingly Muslim population, and Islam bans alcohol. To the extent, that the Ottoman Empire had taverns, they were for the Christian subject populations. To use Turkey with reference to wine is an act of deliberate theft of Greek, Armenian, Syriac and Jewish heritage.