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The article currently treats the bleeps near the end as part of the episode, however, I'm not sure what they are. It is blatant censorship of the ideological kind, too, not just bleeping Muhammad or the f word, but the creators, it seems, actually put dialogue there. This article needs to say what it was. INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM FOR A WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE, ANYONE? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.117.67.30 (talk) 15:32, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth, I had the subtitles on while I watched this episode. The 'Muhammads' that were bleeped out in the episode did show up in the subtitles, but the big long bleeps at the end did not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.160.139.47 (talk) 19:36, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

the scene where "Connor" is asking for an ambulance to be called (as there was an accident) is a clear reference to "Clockwork Orange" where Alex tries to trick the cat lady into letting him in her house 93.97.12.228 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:30, 22 April 2010 (UTC).[reply]

-- Actually, this is a relatively ubiquitous cultural meme. The same ploy, i.e. to say my car is disabled and need to use your phone, did not originate with ACWO, and has been used by many criminals (spawning numerous fictional adaptations, including one in "What is the What?" and many others) to gain illegal access to homes so as to commit some crime or another (rape, theft, etc). 76.247.206.240 (talk) 16:31, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't been on wikipedia in a long time and I've never helped edit an article for a live release such as this one, but I think it would be helpful to bring together a simple plot summary here so we can use it to write the actual plot section. We should also discuss spoilers, unrelated information, and anything else that may be important. Like I said, I've never done this before, I just think this would speed up the process of starting this article. Burn N Flare (talk) 03:12, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't there be a mention of the very real threat by muslim extremists intended towards Matt and Trey for their portrayal of MOhammed in the episode? This was some pretty big news which definitely influenced the presentation of this particular episode.

http://entertainment.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978189881 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.51.30.52 (talk) 12:22, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comedy Central did not air the episode two hours after it's initial run, as they've done with all the other episodes. At midnight EST, they aired an episode from earlier in the season - not even the heavily censored 201 episode that apparently aired at the regular time (10 pm EST). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.80.35.172 (talk) 05:50, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

EDT not EST. 96.241.24.246 (talk) 06:59, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

comedy central bleeped out about a minute of dialog at the end of episode! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.177.10.191 (talk) 02:51, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

the bleeping of the 'i learned something today' was clearly a joke, because it would be impossible to write the dialogue to resolve all the loose ends of the conflict. it also played into the bleeping of mohammed's name the whole time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.113.138.46 (talk) 04:51, 22 April 2010 (UTC) nice[reply]

the entirety of the seens with scott tenorman are all direct parodies of the comic batman the killing joke with scott as the joker complete with cain and creepy stare —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deliphas (talk • contribs) 03:10, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A picture of Cartman's father (aka Scott Tenorman's parents)can be found here: http://www.spscriptorium.com/Season5/TenormanParents.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hysto1 (talk • contribs) 03:39, 22 April 2010 (UTC) Source: http://www.spscriptorium.com/SPBios/TheGuestsS5.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.34.105.104 (talk) 03:58, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You can also add something more into 'Cultural References' section, for example, the scene at the door of Dr.Mephisto's lab is clearly a parody of 'A Clockwork Orange'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.163.5.176 (talk) 08:11, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There's no reference in the summary to how the Super Best Friends stopped Mecha-Streisand with the Neil Diamond ruse. (Actually, for all we know at the end of the epsiode, they're still singing.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.97.69.10 (talk) 12:02, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Did anybody else have this episode scheduled to tape on DVR or Tivo, but it didn't tape? I had it set, but it didn't record, and all previous episodes have. With all this censorship business, a conspiracy theory is forming in my head that Comedy Central prevented the taping somehow! lol — Hunter Kahn 14:56, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, my DVR missed it because it wasn't marked as new, so I tried watching the re-airing, which was pulled. It's not available online, so who knows when we'll be able to finally see it. Klopek007 (talk) 14:58, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

--It is available online, however it is not available on Southparkstudios or comedy central streaming sites. Wikileaks might have it ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.117.67.30 (talk) 15:36, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It recorded just fine on my TiVo at the scheduled time. Maybe it just depends on the DVR used. --Hourick (talk) 15:39, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a news article outlining the controversy that the episode caused, including warnings/threats against Parker and Stone: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8636455.stm

I would add it myself, but the article is semi-protected. 134.84.187.55 (talk) 16:16, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is NPOV to state that utterances of Muhammad's name were bleeped out and his visual depiction was likewise obscured (by a graphic which explicitly stated "CENSORED). However, the reasons for the controversy stem not so much from the censorship itself but rather from the underlying content. Therefore, it would be NPOV to have a section labeled "censorship" which discusses the ways in which the episode were censored. There could be a second section labeled "controversy" which deals with the various reactions to the airing of the episode. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.84.187.55 (talk) 16:20, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/04/20/comedy-central-censors-south-park-episode-muslim-threats/?test=latestnews http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/tv_and_radio/article7105417.ece http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ixtNaqRpSqti8gDHGSyN8lXBhQjAD9F886HG0 http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/22/south-park-mohammed-issue-sparks-debate-among-muslims/ Weaponbb7 (talk) 18:34, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.southparkstudios.com/news/3878 http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/22/south-park-creators-respond/

"In the 14 years we’ve been doing South Park we have never done a show that we couldn’t stand behind. We delivered our version of the show to Comedy Central and they made a determination to alter the episode. It wasn’t some meta-joke on our part. Comedy Central added the bleeps. In fact, Kyle’s customary final speech was about intimidation and fear. It didn’t mention Muhammad at all but it got bleeped too. We’ll be back next week with a whole new show about something completely different and we’ll see what happens to it."

I have little experience with integrating press releases into articles, so I'll leave it to someone else. Xargon666x6 (talk) 20:29, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the episode "Super Best Friends" is no longer streaming on SouthParkStudios if someone wants to add that in to the article. The Placebo Effect (talk) 21:06, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]