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The way the 'holy' Qu'ran (Islamic bible) works, is as follows... When there is a question asked in the book, instead of giving an answer, it gives 3 accusations. The question itself represents a full moon. Then, when the 3 accusations start, each one leads to 3 quarters, then to half, then a quarter moon. When one finishes reading that section, one is left without an answer to the question and left in the darkness. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JT81 (talk • contribs) 02:48, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please remove refrences to Christians and Jews in arabic speaking nations referring to Jehovah God as allah, because Jews and Christians do not use the word allah to refer to their God ever, nor have they ever. Thankyou 74.5.0.179 (talk) 15:18, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The statement in question (first one of Allah#Christianity) appears to be properly sourced. Do you have any reliable sources contradicting the claim? Favonian (talk) 17:08, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Christian's God of the Bible (Yahweh) is not allah.1 Remove!

1 http://www.allaboutreligion.org/Origin-Of-Islam.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.157.237 (talk) 05:07, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Having an article in the name space Allah is misleading and can create POV confusions and disagreements.

This article is about the Arabic word. I recommend it be moved to Allah (Arabic word).

The page at Allah should be a disambiguation page, pointing to both:

• Allah (Islam) for the Muslim perspective (what 23% of the world's population mean when they say "Allah"), and
• Allah (Arabic word) for the linguistic perspective

--Sonjaaa (talk) 20:45, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article says: "Allah (Arabic: الله‎ Allāh, IPA: [ʔalˤːɑːh] ( listen)) is the standard Arabic word for God."

This is simply incorrect. A simple example as I pointed out earlier is translation of the sentence "God of the Aztecs". Ask any Arab to translate it and he, regardless of his religion, will not, and linguistically can not use the word Allah. The word Allah is equivalent to the word "John"; it is the name of a specific. The word ʼilāh is equivalent (and usually means) to the word God; it is the name of a kind. In other words, someone using the word Allah to translate something like "That God fought with the Greek God" will sound gibberish to any Arab. Try it!

This is true even if the etymological claim in the article is taken to be true, since the word already has the "definite article". In other words, the part of the article that said, "The term Allāh is derived from a contraction of the Arabic definite article al- "the" and ʼilāh "deity, god" to al-lāh meaning "the [sole] deity, God" (ho theos monos)." is contradictory to the part I quoted earlier. For non-Muslim Arabs, it is precisely the existence of the definite article at the beginning of the word 'Allah' that intuitively as Arabs prevents them from using the word to translate something like "God of the Aztecs". Whatever word is used to translate God in this example, it cannot have the definite article. Also keep in mind that Allah is the only noun that has the definite article as part of it. In other words, there are no exceptions. (Remember that the definite article is an Aleph with a fatha, followed by a lam with a sukūn which is sometimes silent) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.246.101.166 (talk) 04:40, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The first part uses the term God, not god (notice the difference in capitalization). God with a capital 'G' should be understood as a proper noun. The proper noun article claims that "The common noun god denotes any deity from any religion, whereas the proper noun God references a specific monotheistic God." This usage may be confusing or not very accurate, but still understandable if you know the difference between the two. So your example should be "god of the Aztecs", and a better example would be "There is no god but God". But In some respect your concern does have merit, considering that capitalization at the start of a sentence might leave some sentences ambiguous. Wiqixtalk 18:04, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The word Allah is a noun of a specific. I can not say that "John is the Standard Arabic Word for...", that would be rubbish. However, I can say that "Musah is the Arabic pronunciation of the name Moses", or "Eesah is what Arabs call Jesus". --99.246.101.166 (talk) 17:16, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nonsense, you should read the article, and God (word). All the smart observations you can make about Allah you can also make about capital-G God, which is why one translates the other. If you can make wise remarks about 'Allah being a proper name, you can make the same wise remarks about God, etc. If this were not the case, Arabic-speaking Christians would probably not use Allah as the word for God. This is a peculiarity of English, where god ("ilah") and God ("Allah") mean two very different things. --dab (𒁳) 19:13, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Where "Wiqixtalk" gave me an interesting response, yours is ... I am not sure what to call yours. Could we please have someone honest and knowledgeable fix the article. Thank you.--99.246.101.166 (talk) 01:53, 5 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

i suggest adding a image illustrating allah himself... other articles such as God, Jesus, Muhammad, etc.. usually got such images —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.109.221.99 (talk) 11:09, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Historically, this was the initial name that was worshiped at the kaaba in Mecca. He was called Al-ilah during worship, and was a moon-god, son of the god baal, sister to Anat. This article is an insult to Christianity for claiming that what would have been known as a fire demon at the time is equivalent to Yahweh. (For fire demon reference, see sacrificial offerings to Muloch (or Baal), where babies were sacrificed by being thrown into the open-able mouth of a statue with a lit fire in its belly). When worshiping Hubal at the kaaba, they would call him allah, though insights into existing archeological evidence as to why exactly they used this name during prayer.

It should undoubtedly mentioned Allah's clearly pagan derived female counterpart (although the Quoran clearly denounces the trinity of god and even says allah curses those who believe in Jesus as the son of god - provide quoran quote, please) Al-uzza the goddess of east Mecca, whom Mohamed almost sacrificed his son to, was the goddess of fate, and human sacrifices to her were common. please educated sources, expand this seriously one sided and misinformed piece of “encyclopedic text”. And not allowing others to edit this page is seriously hurting its credibility and consequently, that of wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ubungu (talk • contribs) 21:09, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What you mean is that this page should discuss the ideas of Robert Morey (pastor)? Well, if Hubal really had the epithet al-ilah, this should certainly be mentioned, if possible based on references that aren't cheap religious propaganda. --dab (𒁳) 19:21, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]