Talk:The Human Stain

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I've tagged the plot summary section with {{unreferenced}}, as it's much more than a plot summary. It's the writer's interpretation of the book, with unsourced explanations of symbolism and meaning, and that's original research. | Mr. Darcy talk 01:57, 27 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"The name Coleman Silk is a play on many archetypal colors. Cole (like coal) is black. Silk, by contrast, is a soft, white substance known for its delicacy. In Coleman Silk's name, "man" is literally found in balance between black and white, a fact that takes metaphoric significance within The Human Stain."

The comment above is offensive. What is the writing intending to say, that "black" (and by implication, black people) are crude and indelicate, as compared to white people? Volunteer Wiki Editor 21:07, 2 September 2007 (UTC)Volunteer Wiki Editor.[reply]

I agree, unless the comment is in quotes and has an appropriate citation (e.g. its a direct quote from the author of the book explaining the names). I realize that this comment is long after the issue, but just in case it arises again. In the writer's defense, I do suspect that he/she didn't intend to imply that Black people are crude compared to white people; I think the statement just ended up suggesting that accidentally. -Elizabennet | talk 18:31, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would be a good idea to split of the information about the film into a separate article i.e. The Human Stain (film) with a link from this page as seems to be done with other film-book adaptations Madmedea 16:54, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I absolutely must agree with Madmedea, most of Wikipedia's articles on books that have been made into a movie (or Vice Versa) are in separate articles. It also makes reading a lot more relaxed as it is a lot less information one gets on his screen at once.ferrarius 16:06, 2 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, the two should have separate articles. I don't know why this discussion died, or what became of it, but I think they should be split. -Elizabennet | talk —Preceding comment was added at 16:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --D. Monack | talk 03:06, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The plot summary and character destinies sections, together, constituted almost 20kb, and some 85% of the content of this article. They were long and sprawling and difficult to glean much from. Moreover at that length, some 3300 words, any straightforward discussion of the plot would necessarily qualify as a derived work. I have removed them pending a discussion on what to do next. There is no brief, encyclopedic, earlier plot summary to revert to. This is the version created in 2002 by User:80.108.19.76. --Tony Sidaway 20:41, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Human Stain is also a song from Kamelot. Album: Ghost Opera (2007). -link: http://www.kamelot.com/ghostopera.htm 80.242.33.210 (talk) 08:19, 11 February 2008 (UTC)Yoshi Snipo[reply]

Ghost Opera has an entry on wikipedia (which indicates it met the criteria for notability), and it did hit 18 on Billboard 200's Top Heatseekers chart; should this song get a mention at the top of the Human Stain page (using the "may also refer to" tag, after the film mention)? I really don't know, as I'm not familiar with the band, album or song, or how many people searching for "the Human Stain" are actually looking for the song (not the book or film). If someone thinks that many people getting to this page would be looking for the song, then it should get a mention. -Elizabennet | talk 18:41, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I added a relatively brief synopsis of the novel to this article. I say "relatively" brief because the complexity of the story makes it impossible to have a truly brief synopsis. I am drawing mostly from my own memories of the story, so it may not be perfect. Feel free to fix it (not that you need my permission); I just thought that the article needed some sort of synopsis to make it more complete. -Elizabennet | talk 19:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

http://oyc.yale.edu/english/american-novel-since-1945/content/sessions.html

Yale's open courseware has multiple classes about this book. Very in depth stuff based on the other lectures I have watched. However, I have not read this book, so I am tentative to do anything more with this information other than post it here.