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I moved the article to Nellie Bly per Wikipedia:Naming conventions, as this is by far how she is most commonly known.--Pharos 20:27, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I was not prepared to delete quotations; however the citation is not referenced, and is contradicted by information both on Wikipedia itself (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Francis_Train) and several independent sites (such as http://www.wingnet.org/rtw/rtw001o.htm).vdhbghabfhqehcvnd15r43fq2112fcg!@#$%^&*)!!!

George Francis Train is reported to have completed his second "...round-the-world trip in 1890. Departing from Tacoma, Washington on March 18, 1890, he returned there on May 24, 1890 making the circumnavigation in 67 days 12 hours and 3 minutes. He repeated this round-the-world trip again in 1892, setting a 60 day record." (http://www.wingnet.org/rtw/rtw001o.htm)

If these references are correct, Nellie Bly cannot have held the record for more than a few months (she completed her flight in January, and Train his, of 67 days, in May).

I am somewhat hesitant to edit the Nellie Bly page as, despite numerous independent references agreeing on the dates and times for Train's three round-the-world trips, (a) the citation may be drawn from an incorrect source, but worthy of citing (if only a reference had been provided) and (b) I am no more satisfied with the veracity of the sources detailing Train's trip times, than the Wikipedia article claiming Bly was the record-holder until 1929.

Mark Aird

• I think it seems likely that the bit about the record standing till 1929 is just incorrect. The site you referenced gives not just one but a list of several successive record-breakers in the interim, which makes sense. I think I'll fix the text so it's in accord with these facts.--Pharos 06:33, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This article has been translated into nine different languages since the end of November– I wonder if there is some sort of cordinated effort ongoing. Or is it just that seeing an interwiki in the edit summary has just prompted wave after wave of multilingual editors to their best efforts? Anyone, kudos to you all.--Pharos 12:14, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This would be the Meta translation of the week doing its job. This article didn't get quite as many as the average amount per week tho, --Wonderfool 01:26, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion page says Train broke Bly's record by going around the world in 67 days; the article says he did it in 62 days. Which is right? Also, if you click on the link to George Francis Train, there appears to be some problems with that article, as it says he did the trip in 1880, not 1890. There is also a circular chain of events that seems confusing: Nellie Bly was trying to beat the time suggested by Jules Verne in his book, "Around the World in 80 days." Then Train broke Bly's record, yet the George Francis Train page says that after his trip, he became the inspiration for Phileas Fogg, Verne's main character. Perhaps some dates or explanation could be added to provide context and clarify this. Thanks! 207.27.152.6 06:29, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Does that link actually go to the park's site. I think I have some adware so I can't really tell. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.109.77 (talk • contribs) 03:12, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This comment presumably refers to a broken external link to the Nellie Bly Amusement Park which had been in the "Later years" section, but which no longer appears in the article. -- ToE 06:09, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is it worth adding a triva section/In Popular culture to mention that in an espisode of "The West Wing" "And It's Surely to Their Credit (2000)" Where the First Lady dedicated a statue to her and then the President then goes on to mention her in a radio address he makes.

No, that would be trivial. Carl.bunderson (talk) 02:17, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

She is also the inspiration for the story line "Around the world in 8 1/2 days" one of the many books in the popular 'Judy Moody' series for young readers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.113.27.30 (talk) 06:07, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll ask this here, since it seems to fit this topic as well as any: Is there any connection between the actual Nellie Bly and the use of the name in the old song Frankie and Johnny? The song was written around 1900, and Nellie was already rather famous by then. And I'm sure there were lots of people who disapproved of a woman doing some of the things she did. So using her name for the kind of woman who would be brazenly "romancing" another woman's man in public might well be the kind of insult that a rather prim public might approve of. Just always wondered... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.83.52.148 (talk) 21:31, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

• Good question, I don't know. If you look at Frankie and Johnny (song), it suggests the Nellie Bly lyric in the song was added at least by 1912. Of course, Nellie took her psuedonym from the Stephen Foster song "Nelly Bly", which dates to around 1849, so there could have been multiple reasons to co-opt the name, including that it rhymed well!--Milowent • ^hasspoken 22:26, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Especially given the popular currency of the name since Stephen Foster, an offhand mention that might have been inspired by this Nellie Bly is far too trivial to list here. Plazak (talk) 12:51, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It would also be original research unless there is authority making a reasonable case for it; if we can find some scholarly authority making the case one way or the other, then I would mention it. Otherwise, this talk page is where it stays. But anyone interested in authorship debates of 19th century popular songs might consider checking out the recent bio I did on Thomas Brigham Bishop, that guy was quite a character.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 13:36, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A number of years ago I read that the phrase 'Whoa Nellie' was created in reference to Nellie Bly. I do not remember where I read this and I have been unable to find out any more information on it.

Maybe,maybe not. See Work with KTLA for another possibility. Kaiwhakahaere (talk) 20:45, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please verify with an official record. She may have been born south of Pittburgh in Allegheny County on Cochran's Mill Rd.Pustelnik (talk) 20:10, 24 December 2010 (UTC).[reply]

She was born in Armstrong County. Please see the link. I'm too lazy to fix the entire thing.

You'd need a strong source for a change. Span (talk) 20:51, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop propagating the error that she was born in Allegheny County near South Park (i.e., Library). She wasn't. Look at this link. She is from Cochran's Mills, PA, which is ARMSTRONG COUNTY PENNSYLVANIA. I can't believe you delete things without making a 5 minute Google search to check whether you are actually helping further the collective knowledge or merely replicating a falsehood. http://www.armstrongcounty.com/members.php?b=c&c=11

Here's another citation from an actual book because, again, I'm sure that my efforts to remediate the spread of outright false information will be questioned, Spanglej. http://genealogytrails.com/penn/armstrong/bios/index.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.60.122.8 (talk) 05:29, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And here's another link with an actual photo of the home in ARMSTRONG COUNTY PENNSYLVANIA, from the Carnegie Museum. Is this "strong" enough? http://www.pittsburghclo.org/files/file/NellieBlyStudentsGuide_v4[1].pdf. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.60.122.8 (talk) 05:33, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cochran's Mills is not a "suburb" of Pittsburgh. It's a rural area. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.60.122.8 (talk) 04:39, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Since 2003 the US Census has designated all municipalities in Armstrong County as "suburbs" of Pittsburgh and part of the Pittsburgh metropolitan area. ^{Market St.⧏} _{⧐ Diamond Way} 04:03, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Did her mother stay at home to raise her or just her step siblings.Owain meurig (talk) 20:55, 1 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The "Early years" section currently states both that Cochrane signed her fiery rebuttal to the editor with the pen name Nellie Bly and that later the editor chose "Nellie Bly", adopted from the title character in the popular song. This seems contradictory, as the latter makes it sound as if that name was the idea of the editor. If the former is accurate, then the editor in choosing "Nellie Bly" simply chose to accept the pen name Cochrane had already chosen. In that case the later sentence should be reworded. -- ToE 06:27, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed it too. It's a pity that the entire paragraph cites no sources to let us check it. I did a quick Google search and found a different story: NWHM, Nellie Bly Online and About.com all agree she signed her rebuttal under the pseudonym "Lonely Orphan Girl". It was the editor (George Madden) who thought up "Nellie Bly" as her pen name. By the way, there is also no mention at all that the editor initially refused to give her the job because she turned out to be a woman rather than a man (that wouldn't make sense anyway, coming from someone who identifies as a "Girl"). I'll rewrite the section. Greetings, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 12:13, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nellie Bly appeared in a scene in the 2003 children's film The Adventures of Ociee Nash, played by Donna Wright. In IMDB the character's name is given as Nelly Bly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.196.0.211 (talk) 13:40, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"The editor, George Madden, was impressed with her passion and ran an advertisement asking the author, Brittany Christianson, to identify herself."

The author was Nellie Bly, so where did the name Brittany Christianson come from? --Susurrus (talk) 20:11, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Kindly check her date of birth and year of birth.

Thank you

125.236.197.38 (talk) 05:02, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]