Talk:Fonck (surname)

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It has been proposed in this section that Fonck (surname) be renamed and moved to Fonck (disambiguation). A bot will list this discussion on the requested moves current discussions subpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil. Please use {{subst:requested move}}. Do not use {{requested move/dated}} directly. Links: current log • target log • direct move

Fonck → Fonck (disambiguation) – This enables us to treat the French aviator as the primary meaning. He was the highest-ranking French air ace of WW1, the highest-ranking allied ace, and the highest-ranking ace to survive the war. The other two look relatively obscure. PatGallacher (talk) 13:34, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• But the aviator and his deeds have gone back into old history and happened about 100 years ago; how well known of is he now? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:26, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• If the article is moved then an appropriate title (per WP:APOTITLE) would be Fonck (surname). Uanfala (talk) 12:26, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Pageviews are not the only measure, but in this case they show the aviator René Fonck roughly level-pegging with the beauty queen Cecilia Bolocco (Fonck). --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:03, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  But then there's the question of whether Cecilia Bolocco is ever referred to as Fonck. Her article doesn't use that even in a combination with her first name, whereas the aviator is referred to as "Fonck" throughout his article. Uanfala (talk) 16:09, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Pageviews are indeed not the only issue, there is long-term historic and encyclopedic importance, being one of the leading air aces of WW1 is more important than being a transitiry media personality and beauty queen. PatGallacher (talk) 22:17, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Support move to Fonck (surname) and redirecting Fonck to René Fonck. Not only is the aviator arguably primary topic in terms of long-term significance, but he is also the only person in the list who has been regularly called "Fonck" as a mononym, like Caesar, Feynman or Voltaire. — JFG ^talk 07:25, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
• Support move to Fonck (surname), per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. Cecilia Bolocco is not commonly known as "Fonck", while there's evidence that this man is, and that he's the WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT for the surname. Taylor Trescott - ^{my talk} + _{my edits} 03:46, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]