Talk:Curtis Mayfield

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Just wanted to explain my edits.

"Perhaps most notably, Mayfield's lyrics included hard-hitting commentary on the state of affairs in urban ghettos at the time, unusual for black music in general and unheard of in relation to blaxploitation films."

There was also an earlier reference to Curtis being the first to infuse social commentary into his music. Not so! I had to change it/qualify it. And I wanted to mention some of Curtis' earlier music -- which a lot of people have never heard. And "blaxpliotation" flicks DID have message music! -- deeceevoice, June 26, 2004

Went back and edited my earlier edit after reflection -- and checking I'net sources for certainty. While Mayfield's socially conscious lyrics in "Super Fly" were pretty much a first for blaxploitation flicks, they were by no means unknown to black popular music of the day. -- deeceevoice, June 27, 2004

Astounded with Bran Van 3000

maybe it would be worth mentioning the collaboration on Astounded with Bran Van 3000 on their Discosis CD?
it might be the last single Mayfield recorded. Zenzizi 21:35, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

was it recorded with them? or did they just sample it? I thought the bran van song came long after his death..? Andrzejbanas 23:51, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

error found

I have found an erroneous link in the discography section : if you click 'back to the world' (5th album from top) you land on a page about the second album from punk band 'Street Dogs', not the lp of Curtis Mayfield. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.50.34.97 (talk • contribs) 29 June 2006.

Now disambiguated appropriately. No article on that album yet, but it now points to where one should eventually be. - Jmabel | Talk 21:04, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

POV

I'm always hearing about the need for a "NPOV," and just as often seeing that "rule" broken. This article is pure hagiography and propaganda; fan sites are typically less idolatrous. But then, Curtis Mayfield was black, so apparently the NPOV "rule" doesn't apply. "Hard-hitting social commentary"? Gimme a break! "Black pride"? Let's see. If someone tried writing an article praising to the heavens someone for promoting the "white pride" movement, it would be deleted, and properly so. There are several synonyms for "black pride": black power, black racism, black supremacy. There is no "neutral" term, but one could at least be honest enough to observe that for most Americans, "black pride" is a form of racism, rather than something praiseworthy.

Alternatively, it would be more honest of the gatekeepers here, if they would just drop that "NPOV" crap. 70.23.177.216 22:45, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There is quite a difference between organizing to increase the power of the oppressed and organizing to increase the power of the oppressor. Just like there is quite a difference between actual concern for journalistic neutrality and making cynical use of the forms of neutrality in the service of racist views. - Jmabel | Talk 05:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That’s black racist sophistry. In plain English, you are simply repeating what I already pointed out: Blacks can be as racist as they wanna be. The rules are imposed on whites to make life impossible for them, while they are violated with abandon by racist blacks. 70.23.177.216 04:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]