Talk:United States racial unrest (2020–present)

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. per 10mmsocket's request, no need for a discussion. If anyone would like the article to stay at 2020-2023 United States racial unrest, please start a new RM. (closed by non-admin page mover) echidnaLives - talk - edits 12:24, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• 2020–2023 United States racial unrest → 2020–2022 United States racial unrest

– These protests are basically over, and they've basically been over since like early 2022. Most of the protests that are still ongoing are very localized and generally pretty small and, unlike the large and widespread protests that were occuring a couple years back. SusImposter49 (talk) 03:23, 3 January 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. echidnaLives - talk - edits 10:41, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree; the most recent event in the "Major protests" section of this article happened in July 2022. If there's been major incidents of racial unrest in the US in 2023, they should be added to that section; if not, let's rename this to 2020-2022 United States racial unrest. TheAnnalyst (talk) 22:45, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Why is any discussion needed at all? The individual who moved the page on 3rd January (diff) did so without discussion. It's just a case of reversing a controversial undiscussed moved? JFDI. Move to close the discussion and have an admin / page mover do the revert. 10mmsocket (talk) 11:36, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

It was proposed in this section that 2020–2022 United States racial unrest be renamed and moved to 2020–2023 United States racial unrest. result: Moved per consensus seen below. Thanks and kudos to editors for your input; everyone stay healthy! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 11:49, 8 February 2023 (UTC)[reply] Move logs: source title · target title This is template {{subst:Requested move/end}}

2020–2022 United States racial unrest → 2020–2023 United States racial unrest – There are notable events in 2023 that are discussed in the article. A prior discussion occurred prior to more recent events and updates to the article. Minnemeeples (talk) 20:35, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

After today, it definitely needs to be 2023 instead of 2022 IDC OliveIt (talk) 03:44, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Assuming that you're referring to the Tyre Nichols incident, considering that all 6 parties involved were black... Knightoftheswords281 (talk) 06:34, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Since one of the topics of the racial unrest was Police brutality in the United States, it still would be necessary to at least give a mention of the recent events that occurred. Additionally Stop Cop City, there just is more nuance in the situation 98.59.80.64 (talk) 08:52, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Knightoftheswords281: Here you go ― The police who killed Tyre Nichols were Black. But they might still have been driven by racism. CNN, Jan. 27, 2023

Race issues are possibly still relevant, unfortunately. 98.155.8.5 (talk) 22:45, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support Recent protests against the killing of Tyre Nichols and the 'Stop Cop City' movement show this is an ongoing event in 2023. Shamaflama (talk) 06:40, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Are they, is this racial unrest or anti-cop unrest? 16:04, 28 January 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Slatersteven (talk • contribs)

• Support ― Yes, more events are continuing to unfold. Cheers! 98.155.8.5 (talk) 22:39, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy support per ongoing events { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 04:19, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This certainly doesn't warrant a speedy move, circumventing a full discussion. Graham (talk) 04:05, 3 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Support considering ongoing developments and protests Augend (drop a line) 07:20, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose - this article needs a hard look, as its scope is very unclear at the moment, and seems to be possibly committing WP:SYNTH or WP:FORK, at least in part. What is the topic here, and how is it distinct from George Floyd protests (for e.g. the "social impact" material), and/or Black Lives Matter#Timeline of notable events and demonstrations in the United States (but cutting off everything before 2020)? Given that (sadly) it looks likely that the US will continue to have incidents and issues of this nature for quite some time to come, how long into the future is this going to be extended? What would an end even be - are we expecting that there will someday be a point that a large, diverse country has no race-related crimes/police brutality and ensuing protests? Obviously that's the goal, but we here can't fix the US' social issues, only document them. And how different is what's on now from the pre-2020 BLM protests, linked above? We need to figure out more in-depth what the plan is here, and take a hard look to see if we are synthesizing a new phenomenon distinct from social responses to the Floyd protests and from BLM protests. Crossroads ^-talk- 20:16, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This might be a bit of a jump, but how about changing the title to "early 2020s United States racial unrest"? Rexxx7777 (talk) 23:45, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That would buy another year by roping in 2024 in advance, but other issues remain. Crossroads ^-talk- 02:02, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If there is racial unrest in 2024 that is deemed not to fall within the scope of this article (i.e. because it is deemed to be best understood as a distinct event), that could create more problems than it solves. Graham (talk) 07:10, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

At this stage I am going to say, are these the same protests or new waves of protest due to recent events? The ones in 2020 were cleary part of the same movement/reaction. It can be said they continued into 2021, and maybe 2022. But now they are (in essence) separate reactions to separate incidents, not part of a wider national movement. Slatersteven (talk) 09:34, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose I think that this article already has a pretty broad time span in terms of events. Personally, I would have the article only be 2020 and 2021 to accompany Floyd to Rittenhouse. Obviously, we cannot predict the future but if racial unrest events keep happening and we keep adding years the article will change its name every year which does not seem productive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grahaml35 (talk • contribs) 03:45, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Support given that more events have unfolded this year with regards to the racial unrest. ImYourTurboLover (talk) 23:31, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose While protests are still occurring, they are not as widespread as they were at their peak in 2020. --Travisthecrab (talk) 05:31, 5 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]