Talk:Taumatawhakatangi­hangakoauauotamatea­turipukakapikimaunga­horonukupokaiwhen­uakitanatahu

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Consensus to not move. The noes have it. (closed by non-admin page mover) OhKayeSierra (talk) 14:42, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu → Taumata (hill) – This title is too long. It fills up the address bar and may cause formatting problems on mobile and desktop. Aasim 23:13, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose Wikipedia:Article titles tells us how articles are to be named. It is strongly guided by the concept that we call common name and the existing article title represents the common name. There isn't anything on that page about the kind of technical difficulties the proposer is talking about. The case for a page move has not been made. Schwede66 23:41, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Even then, per WP:CONCISE, titles should be the shortest title to search the subject. So that village in Wales has an article title of Llanfairpwllgwyngyll, not Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch. So... the title may need to be shortened to Taumata (hill), but for a different reason mentioned in the title policy.:) Aasim 02:06, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose, this is the common name, used in the sources, and the name is the reason for its notability. Note that there were similar proposals to change the article title in 2014, which failed. See /Archive 1.-gadfium 03:45, 25 February 2020 (UTC)o[reply]
• Oppose per above and per common name (I hear it in conversation all the time). Randy Kryn (talk) 03:51, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  To be honest, what I hear in regular conversation is "That hill with the very long name somewhere in the south of the North Island, which I visited in 20xx when I was ...", but I'm not suggesting we move the article to that title. For me, the last time I visited the site was nine days ago, when I was ....-gadfium 17:22, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Oppose per Randy Kryn (and others as well, but mainly because I wanted to {{ping}} Randy and say "hi!" following a contentious MfD for Portal:Painting I originally closed as "keep," but re-opened following a request from another participant). This is a good case where we need to ignore WP:CONCISE and/or WP:COMMONNAME and invoke WP:IAR. So, call this a strong oppose per WP:IAR. Doug Mehus T·C 02:44, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Hello Dmehus, and may the winds, fine food, and rustic music of Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateaturipukakapikimaungahoronukupokaiwhenuakitanatahu be at your back and guide you into a weekend of editing and good cheer. As to your point, since the name is the real name of the location there is no need to ignore any rule. This is the same as a nomination to change the name of London to Lond, Toronto to Toro, or Rome to Roma (wait, that one should actually be tested). Enjoy. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:24, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Came back to say I checked Rome and was surprised 'Roma' wasn't boldfaced in the lede as an alternate name (although it's in the infobox title and listed as a Roman name), so boldfaced it and removed its unneeded italics in the infobox title, and will keep watch. Thanks for the inspiration. Who would have known that the flute music from the hill of Taumatawhakathang...well, you know, would reach the seven hills of Roma on Wikipedia. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:33, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Randy Kryn, Oh, good point! Doug Mehus T·C 14:55, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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