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Factsonlyplease39 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
03 June 2015
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Identical {{helpme}} messages filed today made me suspicious - the userpages are similar, and while there's very little actual crossover in edits, it's very clear that all three accounts' interests are the same. I'm bringing this here because, frankly, I'm not sure what's going on. I'll be running a checkuser momentarily and will file the results below, but I'd like a second opinion on whether there's a breach of WP:SOCK going on before handing out any blocks. Yunshui 雲水 09:57, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The large sockfarm below all share similar editing habits, writing styles and userpages; I'm fairly convinced this is the same user assuming multiple personas. However, a second opinion would still be appreciated before I take any action. Yunshui 雲水 10:09, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding Weentim68, I've just realised that editor's sole mainspace edit was to add a link to a page created by one of the other accounts listed below - which makes me pretty sure it's the same person again. Yunshui 雲水 10:45, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The more I look into this, the more it looks like some sort of concerted effort by a PR company... the technical data is also leading me in that direction. Yunshui 雲水 11:02, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Oh boy. The following are all  Confirmed:
Readingwritingrithmatic (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Fashionsforward (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
EmmaJoanne (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
ADDgrammar (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
ReachingtheStars (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
WildWorldOutThere (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Brightideas191 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Michellebrainstorming (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Tescotea (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Factsforus (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
GettingFactsRight (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Azmazaz (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Eeyorematters (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Jiminycricket55 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Editingright (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Factsonlyplease39 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Simplysavvy (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Mindfulrmatters (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Donna Helene (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

Weentim68 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) is  Possible but the behaviours and technical data don't closely match. Yunshui 雲水 10:09, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, yes they do. Yunshui 雲水 11:00, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's more: also  Confirmed:
Jackson665 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Secretsources (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Feelingfancyfree (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Weentim68 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Brightideas191 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Somethingforeveryone (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Quietandpeace (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
Yunshui 雲水 11:00, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, screw it; I'm sufficiently convinced now. Second opinions still welcome, but I'm going to block and tag this lot. Yunshui 雲水 11:19, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

09 August 2016

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Recreated article Charles Szews that was created by a sock ADDgrammar. Vanjagenije (talk) 23:00, 9 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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20 January 2020

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Paid editing, mostly undisclosed.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:38, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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06 September 2020

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Alanapjohnson has popped up to edit and submit Draft:Lilia Buckingham, which is one of the articles that was being edited by the Changingguardsatbuckinghampalace sock farm. This looks like a case where the duck is flying to the original duck pond. CheckUser will probably not be useful because the data from the original socks has expired, and a sockmaster knows how long the CheckUser data lasts and can lie low for a while. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:09, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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01 November 2020

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General behaviour consistent with the farm; similar edit summary usage to EveryoneLoves ET (talk · contribs), specifically with regard to pages created through translation: Compare [1] and [2]; whereas EveryoneLoves ET used ‎created this page with help from this one: https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungria_Hip_Hop, Shootin Starz used ‎ created page with help from here: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krzysztof_Stanek. Requesting CU for sleeper check. Best, Blablubbs (talk • contribs) 15:02, 1 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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  •  Clerk endorsed - concur with the filer that they look a lot like EveryoneLoves ET. Endorse for comparison to Alanapjohnson + sleeper check, recommend sleeper check even if they don't come back with a strong match to Alanapjohnson. GeneralNotability (talk) 17:10, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not going to engage the CU results as most of the original accounts found that are now stale are by proxy and these edits seem to be non-proxies. I'm going to block DUCK based on edit summaries. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 07:52, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

11 August 2021

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Creating articles on UPE-prone subjects. Similar edit summaries to this farm ([3][4][5]/[6][7][8][9]) and shared habit of translating articles from other wikis ([10][11]/[12][13][14]). I know the previous accounts are stale but I'm requesting Checkuser for a sleeper check because it has been helpful in the past. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 19:55, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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04 October 2021

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Recreated Philipp Kircher and Hudson Hoagland G5ed in August as creations of WalkingInHisShoes (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki). Also created Rina Fukushi previously deleted due to this.

Asking for CU as it uncovered accounts in this case in the past. Eostrix (🦉 hoot hoot🦉) 05:23, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Mcampany: who patrolled both of the creations above, FYI.--Eostrix (🦉 hoot hoot🦉) 05:24, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oh my! Thanks for the head's up. Mcampany (talk) 06:19, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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This case is being reviewed by Spicy as part of the clerk training process. Please allow him to process the entire case without interference, and pose any questions or concerns either on his talk page or on this page if more appropriate.

  • Thanks, TNT. I find the latter result kind of surprising, but it is what it is. FWIW, I had an admin friend send me copies of the deleted articles by WalkingInHisShoes, and they are not really similar to the current versions. Both subjects clearly pass WP:NPROF, so it's not totally inconceivable that two different people might have the idea to create articles on them. In light of this and the CU results, I'm closing the case without action. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 17:14, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

01 November 2021

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Same characteristic timecard and editing style. See MiguelR26 [15][16][17]. Ping me for more notes. MarioGom (talk) 22:03, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Added some more accounts after finding an interesting tell. Same timecard and style too. MarioGom (talk) 22:59, 1 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Added Raisin2Love: same editing style, similar timecard (mostly the same, this account has a few more edits in the afternoon than others, but it's otherwise pretty consistent), same focus on BLP creation. MarioGom (talk) 13:08, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Added Tracey Milkenson, same hints. MarioGom (talk) 14:30, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, from the perspective of an admin who patrols CSD categories, when I read reports like this, I can see that the sockpuppets are confirmed to each other, but it's not clear from the info here that they are certain sockpuppets of Changingguardsatbuckinghampalace (Possilikely to past socks seems less than definite). I don't want to delete pages that are based on a faulty understanding of CSD G5 by page taggers and if these accounts are all the same person but NOT Changingguardsatbuckinghampalace, then articles shouldn't be tagged for deletion. If I'm not reading this report correctly, my apologies in advance. This question seems to come up regularly so I thought I'd pose it here. Liz Read! Talk! 00:31, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz: "Possilikely" is just the technical determination – behavioural evidence seems clear and GN has tagged as proven sockpuppets of Changingguardsatbuckinhampalace. As a general rule, if a clerk or administrator was confident enough to tag as a sock of a specific master, and said master was blocked at the time of page creation, G5ing should be fine. --Blablubbs (talk) 09:51, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Pink clock Awaiting administrative action - please indef BumakinBeauty, BellaCiao2021, and Allister Channing. (The stale accounts in the filing are very likely them also, but not worth blocking now, IMO. They can be re-reported if they start editing again). Thanks, Spicy (talk) 10:02, 2 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

29 November 2021

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The usual (quite unique) timecard [18], edit summaries ([19][20], [21][22], [23][24][25][26][27][28][29], [30][31]), focus on biographies. Requesting checkuser for a sleeper check, since it was successful last time. MarioGom (talk) 22:00, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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18 December 2021

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Same Israeli office hours timecard. Overlap with previous socks on Millennium Management, LLC, which Daisydeedle created in German (de:Millennium Management) and French (fr:Millennium Management, LLC). Chickpies123 also edited the French article and uploaded File:New Millennium Logo.png to Commons. Both share the same edit summary style with previous socks. Daisydeedle also added the logo to Legatum, which seems to be a customer of this sockfarm through older IP socking (see 173.241.48.0/20). MarioGom (talk) 23:45, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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16 April 2023

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Timecard has changed [32] and it is not so clearly Israeli office hours, but it resembles it a bit. Same modus operandi as before: creating a lot of non-UPE biographies, presumably to later hide who the clients are. Very characteristic edit summaries. Since this sockfarm is the same as Factsonlyplease39, I'll also reference diffs from its socks: [33][34][35][36][37], [38][39][40][41][42][43][44], [45][46][47], [48][49][50][51][52][53][54], [55][56][57], [58][59][60][61][62], [63][64][65][66]. MarioGom (talk) 15:59, 16 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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@MarioGom: Could you please show where the connection between this case and the Factsonlyplease39 case was made?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:24, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bbb23: It seems I never reported on this connection before (I thought I did!). Here's a behavior comparison of both groups:
  • Both used to have a very narrow timecard in Israeli office hours. See, for example, Factsonlyplease39: [67][68][69][70], and Changingguardsatbuckinghampalace: [71][72][73][74][75][76].
  • Both have been remarkably consistent at using the same edit summaries over the years like added many details and references or added information and references. These can often be seen opening any two accounts side by side, but let me know if you'd prefer to see a full list of diffs.
  • Both have frequently added WikiProject ratings manually with assessment as an edit summary.
  • Both overlap on Sara Blakely, Lev Binzumovich Leviev, Lindsay Lohan, Kerry King. Some of them are possibly just coincidence while gnoming though. I give more weight to everything else above.
MarioGom (talk) 14:20, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've been reviewing the diffs and other evidence for a good while now, and, frankly, I'm dizzy. Bottom line is I'm not convinced that the user is a sock sufficiently to block on that basis. However, I am convinced that the user is an undisclosed paid editor and have blocked accordingly. I'll leave this open in case someone else wants to evaluate the evidence of socking. If not, at some point it should be closed.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:16, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • LuvReading08 is very  Possible to this farm from a technical perspective. behavioural perspective. Given behaviour, I'm convinced they're related. @MarioGom: I'd say merge this case with Factsonlyplease39, and tag LuvReading08 as proven? --Blablubbs (talk) 17:26, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Clerk assistance requested: agreed. Let's merge this case to Factsonlyplease39. I think a subset of confirmed accounts should preserve dual tags. MarioGom (talk) 19:11, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done. Re-tagged, with dual tags where appropriate. That was a lot of socks... Closing. Spicy (talk) 19:20, 13 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

03 August 2023

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Signed up one month and half after the last block, it has the same Israeli office hours timecard [77][78] that is very common in this sockfarm, similar edit summary style, similar interests (varied contributions, often biographies, then spam). Also compare user name: Reach4stars (new), ReachingtheStars (old). MarioGom (talk) 17:53, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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