Gendergap December 2014

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Iraqi human rights lawyer Samira Salih al-Nuaimi tortured and executed because Facebook; where is her Wikipedia article?
by Neotarf 22 Jan '15

22 Jan '15

Samira Salih al-Nuaimi (Arabic: سميرة صالح النعيمي ) was kidnapped, tortured for 5 days, and publicly executed in the city of Mosul, after posting comments on Facebook that were critical of Islamic State (ISIL or ISIS) for their destruction of mosques and shrines. The U.N. reports a pattern of executions of women by the Islamic State, and states, “Educated, professional women seem to be particularly at risk.” Italian Wikipedia has an article at: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samira_Saleh_al-Naimi Press coverage: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/26/world/middleeast/womens-rights-activist-e… http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-iraq-islamic-state-kill-lawye… http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/25/samira-nuaimi-killed_n_5880900.html http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/09/25/ISIS-kills-Iraq… http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/09/25/isis_executes_female_huma… http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-publicly-execute-l… http://reliefweb.int/report/iraq/un-envoy-condemns-public-execution-human-r… http://translations.state.gov/st/english/texttrans/2014/09/20140926308964.h… Regards, Neotarf

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Re: [Gendergap] GGTF talk page
by Tim Davenport 02 Jan '15

02 Jan '15

Ms. Stierch's comments are exactly on target. Do the GGTF-type organizing off wiki, not on-wiki. That's not the place for it. Start your own message board akin to Wikipediocracy. Organize (and vent) there. Use Facebook, etc. Concentrate on developing new feminist editors, helping them through the steep learning curve, with an emphasis on content, content, content. Nobody is going to have a problem with that. Tim Davenport Carrite on WP /// Randy from Boise on WPO Corvallis, OR ==== Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 14:25:33 -0800 From: Sarah Stierch <sarah.stierch(a)gmail.com> My tips are: 1) No talk pages if I can avoid it 2) Other channels (sorry people, but not all revolutions can take place in front of everyone) 3) Social media I get more value asking for help on Twitter and Facebook than I do on any other medium. ANd that's why the WikiWomen's Collaborative was created - social media brings more females (since we use it more than males!). -Sarah

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Co-Op
by Sarah Stierch 01 Jan '15

01 Jan '15

This is the new user mentoring program https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Co-op on English Wikipedia -- Sarah Stierch ----- Diverse and engaging consulting for your organization. www.sarahstierch.com

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On a more positive note - Happy New Year!!!
by Sarah Stierch 31 Dec '14

31 Dec '14

Good riddance 2014!!!! WELCOME 2015. Onwards and upwards Wikipedia/media revolutionaries - let's focus on positive action for 2015 that will improve the access and ability that underrepresented peoples have in contributing to the world's go-to source for free knowledge. “When I dare to be powerful, to use my strength in the service of my vision, then it becomes less and less important whether I am afraid.” ― Audre Lorde <http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/18486.Audre_Lorde> -- Sarah Stierch ----- Diverse and engaging consulting for your organization. www.sarahstierch.com

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WP:WOMEN
by LB 31 Dec '14

31 Dec '14

So, I'm reading Wikipedia:WikiProject <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject> and nothing is jumping out at me as prohibiting a WP:WOMEN project. It says, A *WikiProject* is a group <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_group> of contributors who want to work together as a team <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team> to improve Wikipedia. These groups often focus on a specific topic area (for example, women's history <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_history>), a specific location or a specific kind of task (for example, checking newly created pages). Couldn't our task be to recruit, encourage, and support women editors? Lightbreather

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Women of GGTF
by LB 31 Dec '14

31 Dec '14

You may be interested in the Systers forum at the Anita Borg Institute: http://anitaborg.org/get-involved/systers/ It is women only. Sorry guys. Lightbreather

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GGTF talk page
by Marie Earley 30 Dec '14

30 Dec '14

Is it possible to post some of the stuff that has been mentioned on here on the GGTF talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Countering_systemi… It feels like the two have nothing in common at the moment. There's a whole load of "why don't we survey women and find out what they like to edit / give women their own noticeboard / review the scope of the project" - type rhetoric. Rather than wade in and argue (it's pointless, I got accused of 'radical feminism' POV pushing for my trouble), can some of the stuff about grants, meet ups etc. and replies be posted so we can move on, and all of the "let's rip it up and start again" stuff can make its way into the archive? Marie

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Wikimedia Conference (was - Diversity training for functionaries)
by Chris Keating 29 Dec '14

29 Dec '14

Hi Anne, Kerry and Christina - and everyone else, So the Wikimedia Conference programme committee appears keen to do something useful in terms of creating space for gender - gap work. So I wondered if you had any further thoughts about what *might* work at the Wikimedia Conference. As Anne points out it is an audience of people from Wikimedia movement organisations - board members, executive directors (where they exist), and a smaller number of other staff. Compared to other Wikimedia events there is probably a greater language and geographical diversity. There is also a reasonable degree of awareness of the issue - better than one would find if you put english Wikipedia administrators in a room. The main focus for the conference is going to be on helping Wikimedia organisations grow, learn and improve - we are looking to give people practical outcomes, and are avoiding theoretical discussion as far as possible. Thoughts on what we can put in the programme on this issue are very welcome :) (I'll pass everything on to the programme committee, though I suspect I'm not the only member of it subscribed to this list). Thanks and happy new year! Chris On 19 Dec 2014 07:21, "Kerry Raymond" <kerry.raymond(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Can I suggest that the Wikimedia Conference do a train-the-trainer > session with a view to the chapters running sessions locally in addition to > the Wikimania session. Not many people get to go to Wikimania so the > chapters approach would be more scalable. > > > > Kerry > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* gendergap-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: > gendergap-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Risker > *Sent:* Friday, 19 December 2014 2:16 AM > *To:* Addressing gender equity and exploring ways to increase the > participationof women within Wikimedia projects. > *Subject:* Re: [Gendergap] Diversity training for functionaries > > > > While it might be suitable as a "pilot" at the Wikimedia Conference (I > promise not to harp on the name here), it's a by-invitation conference > focused on chapter/affiliate executives, many of whom have very limited > on-wiki presence. I'm not persuaded that they're the target audience. > > > > In fact, I'd suggest this would probably be best suited to a full-day > session targeted at active Wikimedia project administrators and those with > higher level permissions (think: oversighters, who frequently deal with > requests from women who feel harassed because of gender; checkusers > tracking down sockpuppets of harassers, and stewards, who can act in either > role on projects that don't have their own CU/OS). There is not > much overlap between these active on-wiki leaders and the leaders of > chapters/affiliates. Strikes me that this would be more ideal for > Wikimania, perhaps as a pre-WM session if that can be arranged. > > > > Risker/anne > > > > On 18 December 2014 at 11:04, Chris Keating <chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi Christina - this sounds very interesting - would you be happy for me to > propose it as a possible topic in the Wikimedia Conference, for which I'm > on the programme committee? > > > > Chris > > > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Christina Burger < > christina.burger(a)wikimedia.de> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Please allow me to briefly introduce myself before coming to the > point: I am Christina Dinar and I work at Wikimedia Deutschland for > 1,5 years now. Originally, I was employed to take care of community > projects that address newbies and enhance the diversity in Wikipedia > as well other Wikimedia projects. I came with the professional > background of doing workshops with young adults in political > education, doing diversity trainings in order to address some of their > existing social and violent behavioral problems with each other. > Somehow it never got to that moment that I could actually offer this > knowledge and experience to the German Wikipedia Community–my > professional focus here shifted and I started to work in other fields. > > Coming from this background, I could definitely offer a diversity > workshop at Wikimania, for functionaries as well as on the level of > introduction as a train-the-trainer. We even have developed diversity > guidelines (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Charting_diversity), that > theoretically frame the approach on diversity to the specifics of the > Wikimedia world. If I get some positive feedback on offering this > workshop at Wikimania–ideally not alone but with another interested > person–I am not sure what the best way to proceed is: Wait for the > submission process, or get in touch with the organizers to ask for a > room and time for this special workshop (as others did in the past)? > > I had drafted a proposal for our diversity conference back in 2013 > that we could use and build upon - (it was very general at that time, > today I would address more the specfics of WM-movements..): > > Diversity? Deal with it! – Diversity as a concept has long development > in management and especially in human ressource management in order to > practically deal with diversity of people coming and working together > from different backrounds and levels of knowledge. This 45-min lasting > workshop you will actively engage in situations what actually to do > and how possibly to act when divers and different opinions, people and > backgrounds and communication cultures come together. Different > strategies will be developed within the group participants leaving > them with set of tools and strategies how to deal with diversity in > real life and the online world. > > I am very much looking forward to hearing your thoughts. > > Warmly, > Christina > > > Christina Dinar > Team Communitys > > Volunteer Support > > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin > Tel. (030) 219 158 260 > Mobil: +49 17639238378 <%2B49%2017639238378> > http://wikimedia.de > > Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. > Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg > unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das > Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. > > > > > > 2014-12-14 23:06 GMT+01:00 Jim Hayes <slowking4(a)gmail.com>: > > yes, training could work at wikimania > > the education foundation and eval. folks had seminars during hackathon, > and a track at London > https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Programme > > what would a required list of HR, managment seminars look like? > > > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Chris Keating <chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > I've added myself to the list of interested people :) > > Thinking out loud, would that kind of thing work in person at the > Wikimedia Conference and/or Wikimania? > > On 12 Dec 2014 19:33, "Siko Bouterse" <sbouterse(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: > > Along similar lines, this pilot training has been suggested for admins: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Gender-gap_admin_training > > > > And The Ada Initiative said they were interested in providing training for > such a pilot. WMF grantmakers like myself would be pleased to see something > like this develop into a proposal, if folks felt it was worth trying. > > > > It might make sense to pilot at the admin level before focusing on > functionaries like stewards, because admins have more day-to-day > interactions with individual editors (and thus more opportunities to > facilitate an on-wiki environment that supports diversity). > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Reguyla <reguyla(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I think this might be a good idea but it would be pretty hard to implement > and I think, unnecessary. Most of the functionaries got to where they are > because they have a calm demeanor and generally are fair in how they treat > others. Additionally, its not usually the functionaries who are the > problem. So without requiring the editors to perform the diversity > training, I'm not sure how much it would help. > > > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Chris Keating <chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Don't know if this has been floated before - apologies if so - but: > > Part of the problem we have is the sheer depth of ignorance among > otherwise well-intentioned community members. > > This depth of ignorance is naturally shared by the people who play > leadership roles in the community. So we end up with stewards, arbitrators > and bureaucrats who potentially end up reinforcing the gender gap problem > because they just have no clue how the structure they maintain can > sometimes be a tool to exclude people. > > How about offering some form of diversity training to functionaries to > help broaden perspectives and raise understanding? Obviously, from the > point of view of supporting them to do their difficult and fairly thankless > roles better, rather than beating them with diversity sticks. > > It could happen (indeed, WMF could make it happen with some volunteer > input); could it help? > > Chris > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > > > > > -- > > Siko Bouterse > Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. > > sbouterse(a)wikimedia.org > > *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the > sum of all knowledge. * > > *Donate <https://donate.wikimedia.org> or click the "edit" button today, > and help us make it a reality!* > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap(a)lists.wikimedia.org > To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please > visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >

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Yay more professors improving Wikipedia related to women centric stuff!
by Sarah Stierch 24 Dec '14

24 Dec '14

Yahoooooo this time in Canada. http://metronews.ca/news/calgary/1247529/mount-royal-university-womens-stud… -- Sarah Stierch ----- www.sarahstierch.com

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Who are these people with Grace Hopper
by Sarah Stierch 24 Dec '14

24 Dec '14

Perhaps you can help! See this tweet: https://twitter.com/SmithsonianArch/status/547456611988824069 Please post your response to Twitter if you can (and if you can't, then just let me know and I'll post it on your behalf). -Sarah -- Sarah Stierch Diverse and engaging consulting for your organization. www.sarahstierch.com

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