Wikidata:Property proposal/date de vote
voting date
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Under discussion
Description | vote date, date on which people decided or cast their ballot |
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Represents | legal act (Q1864008) |
Data type | Point in time |
Template parameter | "date votation" in fr:modèle:Infobox Initiative suisse |
Example 1 | French constitutional referendum, 1958 (Q2319128)→28 septembre 1958 |
Example 2 | Federal popular initiative "for the protection against gun violence" (Q663241)→13 février 2011 |
Example 3 | 1932 German presidential election (Q706684)→13 mars 1932 + 10 avril 1932 |
Example 4 | Veil Act (Q3258255)→20 décembre 1974 |
Example 5 | 2024 United Kingdom general election (Q78851988)→4 juillet 2024 |
Example 6 | 2000 United States elections (Q7892455)→7 novembre 2000 |
Single-value constraint | yes but there can be exceptions (two-round system (Q615255)) |
Wikidata project | WikiProject Law (Q8486941) WikiProject Human Rights (Q115677469) |
Motivation
editTo help distinguish votes/votations/referendums/laws between announcement date (P6949) effective date (P7588) and date of promulgation (P7589) and publication date (P577)Bouzinac 💬●✒️●💛 05:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
edit- Given that there are going to be a lot of expections I don't think a single value constraint is a good idea. Many modern elections allow people to cast their ballets before polls open via mail-in voting. The current description would suggest that all dates where mail-in voting was acting would be a "date de vote". ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 21:42, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Bouzinac:, could you please clarify the comments above by @ChristianKl:. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 03:31, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, it's difficult to model since you have plenty of ways to voting. There are countries where double voting is common (first round and second round), where you can cast ballot in different ways (voting proxy, mail, etc). There would be three way to solving this:
- either set a "date of vote/last day of possible vote" and having a single-value-constraint. It would mean the last day where a ballot can be casted/counted is the one to record.
- or set a "date of vote(s)" and having a single-value-suggestion. Letting people set the context with qualifyers.
- or decide to rephrase the property as to the main date (the most common significative date : that is the date where most of ballots are to be decisive/counted) + single value constraint
- I don't have any preference. Thoughts? Bouzinac 💬●✒️●💛 19:21, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- @ChristianKl:, would you like to give your final opinion based on the response? Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 03:18, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Given that the property still lacks an English name, it's far from a state where it warrents anything like a final response.
- The ideal way forward would be to look at prior art and see how other people define the concept to see whether someone else has already come up with a good definition. Maybe, some UN agency that cares about voting has a controlled vocabulary that has a term? Maybe someone else? ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 11:51, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- @ChristianKl: proposal updated by @Swpb:. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 04:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- @ChristianKl:, would you like to give your final opinion based on the response? Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 03:18, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, it's difficult to model since you have plenty of ways to voting. There are countries where double voting is common (first round and second round), where you can cast ballot in different ways (voting proxy, mail, etc). There would be three way to solving this:
- @Bouzinac:, could you please clarify the comments above by @ChristianKl:. Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 03:31, 12 July 2024 (UTC)