Wikisource:Scriptorium

15:20, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:23, 7 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Thank you to everyone who participated in the 2021 Board election. The Elections Committee has reviewed the votes of the 2021 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election, organized to select four new trustees. A record 6,873 people from across 214 projects cast their valid votes. The following four candidates received the most support:

1. Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
2. Victoria Doronina
3. Dariusz Jemielniak
4. Lorenzo Losa

While these candidates have been ranked through the community vote, they are not yet appointed to the Board of Trustees. They still need to pass a successful background check and meet the qualifications outlined in the Bylaws. The Board has set a tentative date to appoint new trustees at the end of this month.

Read the full announcement here. Xeno (WMF) (talk) 01:56, 9 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

I propose to delete the Tech News here without archiving it and also support the unsubscription of this to this board. It is overwhelming this board with frequency and amount of content. It is also not on-topic, as this is a Wikisource general discussion board.

This board is one of hundreds of targets for these news announcements, so people have other options for getting news. Mostly two kinds of users are at this board: experienced Wikimedia editors who know how to access news elsewhere, and less experienced Wikimedia editors who are not looking for archives of news updates.

Support Bluerasberry (talk) 20:32, 9 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

• Comment, Why not just have separate places for these news? Tech News contains things like announcements of server switches and technical features that can be beneficial for Wikisource, an example of a better alternative to deleting would be creating something like "Wikisource:Scriptorium/Announcements" which is linked prominently above and only contains this month's (or only six months or a year, depending on how much news / automated messages are actually placed here) announcements and newsletters, while the main Scriptorium could then be exclusively used for community discussions and urgent announcements (exclusively related to Wikisource) free from all the clutter. Note: I am not a frequent contributor here, I just read this website. -- Donald Trung/徵國單  (討論 🀄) (方孔錢 💴) 12:46, 12 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

I would say No. It should be found by the users. What we can do is to archive the tech news more frequently, might be in a special archive like Tech Archive or something like this. -jkb- (talk) 17:59, 12 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Once more: what shall we do wit this? Both alternatives are possible. -jkb- (talk) 21:42, 21 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

I have this text in various forms including scanned images and digital text.

• Popol Vuh (Q220264)
• w:Popol Vuh
• commons:Category:Popol Vuh

The original text is in both en:Kʼicheʼ language and Spanish, but I may also have access to translations with Wikimedia compatible copyright.

Here are my questions:

1. Which language version Wikisource is the right place for central management of this? The original publication contains the full text in K'iche and Spanish.
2. Can someone point me to a good example of a text in Wikisource which also has translations? I want to see how Wikisource links translations of texts across languages.
3. K'iche script is unique and has an ISO code. Can anyone tell me if Wikisource can already handle text in that script?
4. If K'iche is not already set up...
   1. How complicated is it to import an ISO code?
   2. Can I start engaging with the text before setting up the script, or is there some reason why I should sort the script import in Wikisource first?
5. Can someone else check to confirm that this text is either not already in Wikisource, or otherwise, confirm that I can just start playing around with an upload?
   1. I found es:Popol Vuh but I am not sure which version of text this is or what the source is.

Thanks. Please no one put too much effort into answering these questions. I am still exploring options, and just want casual thoughts at this time. Bluerasberry (talk) 20:47, 9 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

It is not common here, but we have Hail Mary here for example. -jkb- (talk) 09:39, 10 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, that is helpful. Bluerasberry (talk) 16:24, 10 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

my pleasure :-) -jkb- (talk) 16:34, 10 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

As far as I know, MediaWiki can handle any Unicode text, so adding text in K'iche script should be no problem as long as it uses Unicode (but what else would it use in 2021?). This doesn’t ensure that readers will be able to read it, though, but it depends on fonts installed on their computers, for which you/we can only add advice. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 17:26, 10 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Movement Strategy announces the Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee. The Call opens August 2, 2021 and closes September 14, 2021.

The Committee is expected to represent diversity in the Movement. Diversity includes gender, language, geography, and experience. This comprises participation in projects, affiliates, and the Wikimedia Foundation.

English fluency is not required to become a member. If needed, translation and interpretation support is provided. Members will receive an allowance to offset participation costs. It is US$100 every two months.

We are looking for people who have some of the following skills:

• Know how to write collaboratively. (demonstrated experience is a plus)
• Are ready to find compromises.
• Focus on inclusion and diversity.
• Have knowledge of community consultations.
• Have intercultural communication experience.
• Have governance or organization experience in non-profits or communities.
• Have experience negotiating with different parties.

The Committee is expected to start with 15 people. If there are 20 or more candidates, a mixed election and selection process will happen. If there are 19 or fewer candidates, then the process of selection without election takes place.

Will you help move Wikimedia forward in this important role? Submit your candidacy here. Please contact strategy2030 wikimedia.org with questions.

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SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:46, 11 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

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While I frequent Wikisource as a reader I don't edit here, so I am quite curious if there are any efforts to reach out to entire websites to import them. While researching religion in South Vietnam I recently found a website called Sacret-Texts.com, they seem to know a lot about US copyright and try to make sure that as much as possible on their website is in the public domain. This website seems like "a perfect match" for Wikisource, is it already being used as a source? Is it useful or do the actual texts need to be available and not just online transcriptions? --Donald Trung (talk) 12:41, 12 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

I'm afraid you must ask at the vietnamese Wikisource. Cheers, -jkb- (talk) 17:05, 12 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

These are all in English though. -- Donald Trung/徵國單  (討論 🀄) (方孔錢 💴) 07:58, 14 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Donald Trung: English texts should go to English Wikisource. Here is primarily a place for texts without their own linguistic domain (or free in US, but not free in the country of origin if not accepted in their linguistic domain). Ankry (talk) 17:07, 7 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

15:35, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

The book I currently working Index:ရွှေဘုံနိဒါန်း.pdf is same as ရွှေဘုံနိဒါန်း. Can I make a request to delete ရွှေဘုံနိဒါန်း ? P0rnytail (talk) 15:00, 18 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

@P0rnytail: Why would we? The goal of proofreading is to eventually transclude the proofread text in the main namespace; the Index and Page namespaces are behind-the-scenes stuff. Instead of deleting, just overwrite the content with the <pages/> tag transcluding the proofread text when you’re done with the proofreading. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 16:41, 18 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

So, I should move my text to that page after completed. Is that right? If so, what is the role of PDF file on WikiCommons? Should I request to delete that after all the previous stuff done? P0rnytail (talk) 16:48, 18 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

No, you should transclude it with the wikicode <pages index="ရွှေဘုံနိဒါန်း.pdf" from="3" to="119" /> (assuming that Page:ရွှေဘုံနိဒါန်း.pdf/3 is the first and Page:ရွှေဘုံနိဒါန်း.pdf/119 is the last page containing actual content); obviously this requires that you don’t request deleting any content. There are two purposes of uploading PDFs to Commons: first, it helps the digitization of the book (people without access to a physical copy can help, and you can more easily work in smaller chunks, e.g. digitize one page at a time); second, they serve as a source, anyone can check if the Wikisource text matches the original work. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 18:40, 18 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

18:32, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Dear fellow Wikimedians,

This is an update from the Movement Charter process. We have closed the call for candidates on September 14 for the Drafting Committee and now have a pool of candidates with diverse backgrounds to choose from. As the number of candidates is quite large and thus informing yourself about them might be a bit more complicated, we want to try something different this time: an “Election Compass", more about it in this page.

The 15 member committee will be selected with a 3-step process:

• Election process for project communities to elect 7 members of the committee.
• Selection process for affiliates to select 6 members of the committee.
• Wikimedia Foundation process to appoint 2 members of the committee.

Communities elect 7 members

This announcement is related to the community elections, which will take place in a time period of 2 weeks from October 11 to October 24. We look forward to a wide participation across the communities to create the committee to curate the writing of the Movement Charter. The Election Results will be published on November 1.

Affiliates select 6 members

Parallel to the election process, all affiliates asked to contribute as well: All affiliates were divided into eight geographic and one ‘thematic’ region (check the list), and each region chooses one person who will act as a selector for that region. These 9 selectors will come together to select 6 of the committee (from the same pool of candidates). The selection results will be published on November 1.

Wikimedia Foundation appoints 2 members

Finally, the Wikimedia Foundation will appoint two members to the committee by November 1.

All three processes will be concluded by November 1, 2021, so that the Movement Charter Drafting Committee can start working by then.

For the full context of the Movement Charter, its role, as well the process for its creation, please have a look at Meta. You can also contact us at any time on Telegram or via email (wikimedia2030@wikimedia.org).

Best regards, --Civvi (WMF) (talk) 10:28, 23 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

Can anybody provide me with a list of "template" etc pages I need to download / translate in order to create "Author Pages" to Cy-Wikisource, at the moment I'm using the "category pages" to include author details, which is where the author line in transclusion pages goes. But I would prefer dedicated pages, but can't work out how to create them or link to them to them AlwynapHuw (talk) 02:09, 27 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

22:23, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

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We hope to see you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) 15:09, 4 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hello! I'd like to remind that the meeting will happen today. You are welcome to join! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 15:13, 12 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

16:31, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

I am planning to remove the main namespace from the wgExtraSignatureNamespaces configuration setting on this wiki. I think this will have very little impact, but letting you know just in case. For more context, see task T291630 (although I'm happy to reply here if you have any questions).

Currently, that configuration setting affects:

• Whether there is a "Signature and timestamp"   button on the editing toolbar in that namespace
• Whether DiscussionTools's reply tool and new topic tool are available in that namespace

It was configured that way in 2014 for all "special" wikis (basically, anything other than the Wikimedia projects with multiple language versions), on the assumption that they often have discussions, including their "village pump" equivalent, in [main namespace]. This doesn't seem correct for this wiki. We're planning to use that config setting for future discussion-related features, and it would probably be unexpected if they showed up in the main namespace here.

Please let me know if there's any problem with this. Thanks. Matma Rex (talk) 18:36, 4 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

The change has been applied now. Matma Rex (talk) 11:38, 12 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

15:30, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Voting for the election of the members for the Movement Charter drafting committee is now open. In total, 70 Wikimedians from around the world are running for 7 seats in this election.

Voting is open from October 12 to October 24, 2021.

The Movement Charter committee will consist of 15 members in total: The online communities will vote for 7 members, 6 members will be selected by the Wikimedia affiliates through a parallel process, and 2 members will be appointed by the Wikimedia Foundation. The plan is to assemble the committee by November 1, 2021.

You can learn more about each candidate to inform your vote here

You can also learn more about the Drafting Committee here

We are piloting a voting advice application for this election. Click through the tool and you will see which candidate is closest to you! To try out this tool, visit: App

Go vote at SecurePoll: Vote

Read the full announcement: here

Best, --Civvi (WMF) (talk) 15:14, 14 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

20:53, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Movement Strategy Implementation grants now provide more than $2,000 USD to put Movement Strategy plans into action. Find out more about Movement Strategy Implementation grants, the criteria, and how to apply here.

Also, the Movement Charter Drafting Committee election is still ongoing. It would be great to increase community participation. If you haven't voted now is the time. Please vote here before October 24. Regards, --Civvi (WMF) (talk) 12:43, 21 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

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• Become a Community Wishlist Survey Ambassador. Help us spread the word about the CWS in your community.
• Update on the disambiguation and the real-time preview wishes
• Questions and answers

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The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (all points in the agenda except for the questions and answers) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, Spanish, German, and Italian. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.

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We hope to see you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 23:00, 22 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

20:08, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

There seem to be a number of inactive admins per [23].

• अजीत कुमार तिवारी (talk • contribs) - 2020-09-18 06:53
• BRUTE (talk • contribs) - 2019-10-04 06:15
• LadyInGrey (talk • contribs) - 2019-08-26 02:44
• Phe (talk • contribs) - 2016-04-16 15:01
• DeirdreAnne (talk • contribs) - 2018-10-23 03:16

Has the community attempted to contacted these users or alternatively, considered removing rights? --Rschen7754 00:46, 1 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

I think we should discuss this point - desysoping for long inactivity has happened here some more times, see Wikisource:Administrators#Desysoped for long inactivity. The five names users has not been active since end of 2019. This week I will try to contact them, but apart from this please do give your votes here. -jkb- (talk) 11:19, 1 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

• @-jkb-: Not exactly: User:अजीत कुमार तिवारी did edit in 2020. And we traditionally removed rights after 2-year inactivity. Ankry (talk) 16:50, 7 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

  Yes, two year's of inactivity is our general rule. --Ooswesthoesbes (talk) 17:46, 8 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

OK, I didn't see this, you are right, but the other four users are more than two years inactive. -jkb- (talk) 21:18, 8 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Any update? --Rschen7754 22:25, 5 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

The Movement Charter Drafting Committee election and selection processes are complete.

• The election results have been published. 1018 participants voted to elect seven members to the committee: Richard Knipel (Pharos), Anne Clin (Risker), Alice Wiegand (Lyzzy), Michał Buczyński (Aegis Maelstrom), Richard (Nosebagbear), Ravan J Al-Taie (Ravan), Ciell (Ciell).
• The affiliate process has selected six members: Anass Sedrati (Anass Sedrati), Érica Azzellini (EricaAzzellini), Jamie Li-Yun Lin (Li-Yun Lin), Georges Fodouop (Geugeor), Manavpreet Kaur (Manavpreet Kaur), Pepe Flores (Padaguan).
• The Wikimedia Foundation has appointed two members: Runa Bhattacharjee (Runab WMF), Jorge Vargas (JVargas (WMF)).

The committee will convene soon to start its work. The committee can appoint up to three more members to bridge diversity and expertise gaps.

If you are interested in engaging with Movement Charter drafting process, follow the updates on Meta and join the Telegram group.

With thanks from the Movement Strategy and Governance team. --Civvi (WMF) (talk) 15:10, 1 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

20:28, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

New beginning, see above #Proposal: discontinue Tech News to this board. I'm like to change my mind. The different WMF staff, first of all Tech News etc., are really becoming "overwhelming this board with frequency and amount of content." It is not easy to get hier an answer and to discuss our problems. O propose to order WMF staff to something like "Wikisource:Scriptorium/Tech news" or better "Wikisource:Scriptorium/Announcements".

Let us discuss it, then we can reorder the announcements to the new place. Invited are all, and the users who started the first part above especiaslly - @Bluerasberry, Donald Trung:. Thanks, -jkb- (talk) 20:54, 1 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the reping

I made the original proposal, and I see there are other counter proposals. Here are the options proposed as I understand them:

1. Do nothing, status quo
2. Discontinue tech news entirely
3. Set up new board, send tech news there
4. status quo for tech news coming to this board, but archive it separately to a new board

I favor some change being made and still think the problem is serious enough to merit a response. This board should be a place for humans to have peer to peer interactions. Because these announcements are from outsiders rather than peers, and because they are off-topic for what humans on this board typically discuss, I feel that this board is not the place for those announcements. I support the messages going anywhere else where people can watch the board and access the messages as they like. It is not my intent to block access to the messages, but these are mass mailings and they do outnumber human posts which I see as much more valuable. Another aspect of solution that I want is something which is zero labor to maintain. If someone volunteers to keep up with archiving after a month then that might help, but I prefer a solution which does not require a human to commit to labor.

Thoughts from others? Bluerasberry (talk) 21:12, 1 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

It can be helpful messages, but I do see the problem of this page being cluttered up. Therefore, my preference goes out to a separate (sub)page for those messages to be posted on. --Ooswesthoesbes (talk) 17:47, 8 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

I doubt anyone would read the Tech News messages if they weren't here on at least linked here. Ankry (talk) 22:03, 9 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

20:36, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

See User talk:-jkb-#ping ping :-), abuse filter 14, Meta CU request, regards -jkb- (talk) 18:02, 13 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

See pls the previous topic #Mensusa accounts and the links to the abuse filter and the CU request at meta. Such request is quite simple (I was CU at Wikilivres for some time) but it costs the stewards a lot of time I guess. Something like this happens here not very often, but however, I think we could have our own checkuser. As far as I know there must be at least two persons (just to control each other, in some projects three etc.), might be we can vote for three. I can gladly apply for it as I know the CU procedure, but that's a matter of choice if we want it. Info: As far as I know, all check users at WMF must announce and confirm their real life identity. 1) do you think we can arrange this and 2) has somebody the interest to apply for it? -jkb- (talk) 20:09, 13 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Please carefully read m:CheckUser_policy#Access_to_CheckUser that any wiki must have >= 2 CheckUsers or zero. Thus do not vote until getting at least 2 qualified candidates.--Jusjih (talk) 05:31, 2 December 2021 (UTC) (former CheckUser on English Wikiquote and former steward with no more interest in CheckUser)Reply

I think, we are discussing on whether we need not about candidates at this point. Ankry (talk) 16:37, 3 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Regardless of policy, I do not think that checkuser tools would be helpful here. If an account was not created or it has made no action after creating, there is no logged action for a checkuser. Stewards may do checks in loginwiki, but see no job for a checkuser here. Ankry (talk) 16:37, 3 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Pragmatically - I don't think you could get the needed 25 support votes in a timeframe that would be acceptable to stewards. --Rschen7754 22:22, 5 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Oh "see no job for a checkuser here" - ehm? See #Mensusa accounts, see [talk:-jkb-#Mensusa_2], see abuse log 14 and CU meta (rejected by Urbanec, wo has some problems with cs.wiki/cs.Source and people from there, my experience). -jkb- (talk) 21:12, 6 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Please redirect me to there.—unsigned comment by Kushal Dev Wiki (talk) 14 November 2021 13:50.

I'm afraid there is no one. But try to find some similar languages on Category:Languages or Category:Babel or Category:Main Pages; however there exist the nepali main page where you could fine the authors who were editing it. -jkb- (talk) 13:13, 14 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

But I'm not sure if they still edit here, might be in this case you should try to reach them on their wikipedias. -jkb- (talk) 13:27, 14 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

English wikisource opens in different format than nepali. While opening nepali wikisource, it is redirected from somewhere else. How to turn nepali wikisource into standard subdomain? —unsigned comment by Kushal Dev Wiki (talk) 14 November 2021 13:55.

22:06, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

20:02, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Hello!

We, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on 30 November (Tuesday), 17:00 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.

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• Changes to the Community Wishlist Survey 2022. Help us decide.
• Become a Community Wishlist Survey Ambassador. Help us spread the word about the CWS in your community.
• Questions and answers

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The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (all points in the agenda except for the questions and answers) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, Spanish, German, and Italian. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.

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We hope to see you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 20:03, 26 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

21:15, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

21:59, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

22:27, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

At Thai Wikisource, we found a Pali Tripiṭaka written in Thai script, and according to the policy , we cannot proofread the text there, so I'm wondering if multilingual Wikisource accepts Pali works using Thai script? Here's one of the 45 books of the text. --Bebiezaza (talk) 02:14, 16 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

And as it is published in Thailand, and the copyright had expired in Thailand, can we use our copyright expired law to proofread the text here? --Bebiezaza (talk) 02:21, 16 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Bebiezaza This sounds like it can be hosted here at Multilingual Wikisource (see also Main_Page/Pāḷi): since they were published in up to 1930, and went in the Thai PD after 1930 + 50 = 1980, it was in the PD in its home country of Thailand in 1996. Therefore, it was not restored by URAA and it's in the public domain also in the US per {{PD-1996}}. Inductiveload (talk) 12:19, 16 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Transcluding proofread page to mainspace does not move the text out of the way of the page number, see สฺยามรฏฺฐสฺส_เตปิฏกํ/Volume_1/Chapter_1. What should happen is the text moves out of the way for the page number to not stack on top of the text, like as seen in en:The_Return_of_Tarzan/Chapter_2.

I think some other elements might need fixing too, but I have not noticed them yet (except {{nop}}). --Bebiezaza (talk) 14:42, 18 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Zyephyrus, Ankry, Ooswesthoesbes : can you pls have a look at it? thx, -jkb- (talk) 16:04, 18 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Probably we need some default CSS settings, but I am not familiar with them; I can only suggest a Mdiv>-based workaround at the moment. Ankry (talk) 16:13, 18 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

It seems like text highlighting when hovering on page number is also broken --Bebiezaza (talk) 17:40, 18 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

Unfortunately, I am of no help here :( --Ooswesthoesbes (talk) 07:30, 19 December 2021 (UTC)Reply