Steward requests/Global permissions/2010-09

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It should make countervandalism easier. Thanks -- Quentinv57 16:30, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

•   Support high crosswiki activity, trusted - Hoo man 16:33, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
• Support Why not? -FASTILY ^(TALK) 18:35, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
•   Support Per Fastily :-) --Hercule 23:32, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
• I'm hesitant. Quentin still looks a bit "junior" to me, I'd prefer to wait a bit before giving him tools such as GR. I remember some cases (nothing I have handy) where he was a bit emotional and trigger-happy when dealing with vandals, although he certainly has the best intentions. I'm not vetoing, but I'm certainly raising a flag. guillom 23:36, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose - Per guillom's concerns above. I like to see users that we well versed with the use of rollback and/or counter vandalism work on a number of wikis before granting it to them globally. Tiptoety ^talk

  True that I've made some mistakes in the past. But nobody can win without a try. Please take a look at my recent countervandalism work : on frwiki (contribs), frwiktionary (block log)(deletion log)(cvn bot operations) - which are my main projects - and please see my crosswiki countervandalism work. If I'm not doing some crosswiki countervandalism work, please tell me what countervandalism work is -- Quentinv57 18:13, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

  Oh, I do not think either guillom or myself are saying that you have no cross-wiki counter vandalism work. I think we are both saying we feel you are still a bit new to it and would like to see a tad more experience before we would be comfortable supporting this request. Tiptoety ^talk 18:16, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

  I'm okay, I understand what you mean ;-) -- Quentinv57 18:20, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Support Great job on fr, especially on frwiktionary ! SM ** =^^= ** 18:27, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
•   Support, good experience working with him. Laaknor 20:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
• Support He's actually doing a good job. I think it can't hurt to grant him GR. -Barras 20:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
• I am neutral on this request per guillom and Tiptoety. –BruTe ^talk 09:05, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
•   Support per Fastily --Fridae'sDoom 04:20, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
• Comment: apart from French wikis and Meta, he has a recent edit on 15 wikis. --Nemo 10:39, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
•   Support, rollback is no big deal. —DerHexer (Talk) 10:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

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• Closed - I see community support here to promote Quentinv57 to the global rollback usergroup. Notwithstanding the objections raised should be taken into consideration and, as all members in this group Quentinv57 is adviced to use the tool with care and in obvious cases of vandalism and/or spam only. --dferg ^{☎ talk} 09:12, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

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Would like to ractivate my global rollback flag. --WizardOfOz ^talk 20:35, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

•   Support - No objections from me. --dferg ^{☎ talk} 20:37, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
•   Support Glad to have you back Mardetanha ^talk 20:41, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
•   Support - yes please. -Barras 21:07, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
•   Support πr² (t • c) 01:52, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
•   Support sure, good to have you back. --FiliP ██ 00:19, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
•   Support –BruTe ^talk 06:43, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

    Done --dferg ^{☎ talk} 08:44, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

  THX for support --WizardOfOz ^talk 12:26, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

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I am bureaucrat on Amharic wikipedia. Please remove Amharic wikipedia from "global sysops enabled". There was no need for us to "opt in" to begin with. Our local admins, who all understand Amharic, have everything under control. One of the requirements for sysop actions on that wiki is familiarity with, fluency and literacy in the Amharic alphabet and language. Otherwise, we may have "global sysops" barging in gung-ho and doing things they do not really understand, as has already happened today. Thank you kindly, Codex Sinaiticus 06:34, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

• Please provide a link to the relevant discussion and !vote concerning this matter. Seb az86556 10:50, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

  There hasn't been any discussion or vote. Is getting off of this thing going to be a major hassle, or can it not be done simply and without pain? This is the very reason I opposed global sysop from the beginning, it's exactly what I envisaged would happen, it's exactly what I was repeatedly assured would never happen, and it's exactly what is happening now. Amharic-illiterate sysops looking to throw their weight around some "neglected" wiki, blundering in and enforcing their own notions of what Amharic wikipedia "should be" when they obviously cannot even read the first letter of the script, is definitely something we have no dire need for. Amharic speakers have been more than capable of building the encyclopedia without this kind of "assistance". They will not use something if it is being micromanaged by outsiders who are completely ignorant of Ethiopian languages, also they are quite technologically capable of creating a similar wiki elsewhere, and leaving this one to wither on the vine. Codex Sinaiticus 13:54, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

  There needs to be some local consensus attained, see GS#Scope. You may want to consider leaving a note on the Meta talkpages of the local offending Global Sysop(s), so they're aware of what they did incorrectly, also. Kylu 14:08, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

  Alright then. This has all just happened recently, so I'll let you know when I get a chance to bring it up locally, and report some consensus from there. Thanks, Codex Sinaiticus 14:50, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

  Can you please link to the discussion page there? -- Avi 17:07, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

  Looks like am:Wikipedia ውይይት:ምንጭጌ#ከ'Global Sysop' እንወጣ ስምምነታችሁን ስጡ እባካችሁ! Kylu 20:16, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

  Any updates? I'm sorry, but I cannot read Amharic. I see that there seems to be at least two responses… -- Avi 19:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

  Indeed, two responses. No matter what those two say, it's not enough for an opt-out. Seb az86556 10:46, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

  •   Not done Unfortunately, two responses does not indicate a consensus to opt-out as of now. Should Amharic wiki have a future discussion which exhibits consensus to opt out, please note that here. Thank you. -- Avi 20:04, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

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I'm active in the SWMT and it would be quit useful to have the global sysop flag, because a significant amount of the vandalism I come over are useless new pages. Further it would be fine to be able to ban users myself, so I do not have to call for stewards that often.

Of course I already read the global sysop page and I have a link to meta on all my user pages, so users can contact me if necessary. Furthermore, I wont do anything if I'm not a 100% sure whether it's vandalism or not.

I know how to use the sysop tools from the administration of private wikis. - Hoo man 13:25, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

• Do you have any significant experience with the sysop tool on wmf wikis? Have you been sysop somewhere already? -Barras 13:29, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

  Only on strategywiki, but I know the policys quite well and I think that I haven't done (if any) much wrong marking pages for deletion using dellieplagiat or requesting urgent blocks from stewards - Hoo man 13:36, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: You're a very active SWMT member, and I've seen only good work from you in that area. However, you don't seem to have much experience with the sysop tools in Wikimedia projects? Unless I'm missing something, you only have sysop tools in strategywiki, where you've made a total of 1 block and 0 deletions.[1] It would be a good idea to have some prior experience with the tools before applying for global rights. Jafeluv 13:35, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

  Are you talking about technical experience or community related things? - Hoo man 13:44, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

  (Sorry for the late response, somehow I missed your follow-up question.) I was thinking more about technical experience, since GS aren't really part of the local community anyway, but both aspects have some importance. Jafeluv 06:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

  That technical experience should be given. The only functions I'm really going to use frequently are block and delete. And I've already used block and delete on strategywiki and the private wikis. Further I'm usually able to understand technical things quite fast - Hoo man 11:49, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

•   Comment I think you should begin as sysop on a local wiki, because it's important to know how the technical actions are considered by other users. If you was already local sysop I would have fully supported you, because you make very good cross wiki work. This is just a comment, I don't oppose you become global sysop even without the local experience. --Hercule 13:16, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

  Thats definitely right, but I don't see a chance for me to get a local sysop on a content project, soon. The only WMF wiki, where a local sysop would be useful for me would be enwiki and I have far to less edits for that. - Hoo man 16:20, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

    Support Finaly I consider there is no problem Hoo man become GS, because he already do the job (very well) -- Hercule 16:21, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

• Comment I guess this is as good a time as any to have this come up. Does the granting of global sysop first require that the candidate is an admin on an active project somewhere, or can a trusted, knowledgeable and active crosswiki candidate be considered qualified as well? Obviously global sysop must only be granted to people who have earned trust and shown they have the knowledge needed to use such a tool. I don't really know what to think in this case. I'd like to think that Hoo man has the clue to be a good admin, and I know the xwiki experience is there, but should someone's first experience of active adminhood be as a global sysop? IDK? fr33kman ^{t - c} 03:04, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

  I think making prior adminship somewhere else a requirement could easily give the wrong impression as to what the "job" is about. Global sysop is not the same as administrator. Global sysop is a much more limited a role. An administrator has to deal with content-issues, whereas a global sysop is explicitly not allowed to get involved. Under no circumstances would I want to give rise to the idea that one would have to get experience in all the duties of an administrator first, since as global sysop the person will get into trouble should that same experience be applied. Seb az86556 03:41, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

  I agree. The only experience should be the evidence of what a person already did (did they tag articles correctly? Did they rollback just blatant vandalism? etc.) since that's the kind of actions they'll be performing without a second opinion, sometimes. So, I think we should evaluate Hoo man based on their past performance, rather than their future potential. -- Mentifisto 15:59, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

After this little discussion about the role of global sysops and the requirements, I think we should get back to my candidature. In my opinion Seb az86556 and Mentifisto are right and I think I haven't done much wrong (although I'm far not perfect). Furthermore I think I'm able to use the tools (as I already did on strategywiki and pirvate wikis), especially cause they are quite easy to use - Hoo man 21:52, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

•   Support, definitely qualified. —DerHexer (Talk) 21:53, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
• Support fr33kman ^{t - c} 00:46, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
• Support too. Hoo man does a really good work. -- Quentinv57 21:15, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
•   Support Yes, please. –BruTe ^talk 06:44, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
• Neutral per my comment above. I would still be more comfortable with some background with local tools first, but that probably shouldn't be an absolute requirement since the roles are actually very different despite having the same set of tools. As I said, from what I've seen Hoo man is a reasonable cross-wiki editor, although I do disagree with some of this taggings (for example, I don't see how so:Dollar was a nonsense page). If this request is successful I recommend starting slow and being conservative with using the GS tools as opposed to leaving things to local admins. Good luck. Jafeluv 08:29, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

I haven't tagged that dollar article for deletion, as you can see in the history, there is no edit from me and I'm always tagging pages localy as well, further, there is a version which has been deleted (that is the nonsense page tagged by me and deleted by Dferg) 1. Such things occur then a page gets deleted and then recreated, but the BOT doesn't recognize the deletion and keeps the entry on the list cause the page exists. Of course I'm going to start slow, and I wont use the tools on wikis which I know have active local sysops (except from emergencies) - Hoo man 11:37, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I see it now and that was indeed a valid tagging. I've struck part of my comment accordingly. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Jafeluv 11:45, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

• Support Why not? -FASTILY ^(TALK) 01:00, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
• Support - OK. Little chance that he damages something and adminship is no big deal at all... -Barras 21:37, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

  Done This candidature lasts long with no opposes. So have fun using the tools. Kind regards, —DerHexer (Talk) 21:39, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks to everyone, I'll use the tools wisely - Hoo man 21:49, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

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Good afternoon, I have a query about adding pages to the left column, after the words

* Баш бит* Main page
   * Җәмгыять үзәге  (Community portal)
   * Хәзерге вакыйгалар (Current events)
   * Соңгы үзгәртүләр    (Recent changes)
+ Яңа битләр (New Pages), which will link to http://tt.wikibooks.org/wiki/Махсус:NewPages
   * Очраклы бит (Random page)
   * Ярдәм  (Help)
   * Иганә    (Donate)

, thanks, --Ильнар Шайдуллов 11:47, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Ok, this was no request for a right (cause you already have the rights to change this on ttwikibooks), you just wanted something to be changed, right? If so done :). Feel free to ask for more on my talk page. - Hoo man 12:05, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much, –Ильнар Шайдуллов 13:24, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Apparently nothing to do here, so marking as not done. --Erwin 17:28, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

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Following my return to activity I was affected by IP blocks at home and at school, primarily on Commons Wiki (now blocked at my school under the categories Open/Mixed Content & Reference) enwikt, enwiki, simplewiki, enwikisource and some zhwikis. This is quite annoying considering I've only just been active cross-wiki-wise and requesting Gloval IP block exemption seems like a sensible thing to do thanks, --Fridae'sDoom 04:14, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Addendum: The blocks are long-term school hardblocks so I can't create an account etc. I can edit but my laptop requires me to logon to WMF projects each time I logon to a different network despite the fact I've saved my login. Fridae'sDoom 04:18, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

• Note: Hello Fridae'sDoom. The 'global-ipblock-exempt' flag will protect you from being targeted by globally blocked IP addresses only, not locally blocked ones (this permission currently does nothing with local hardblocks). That said if the IP addresses/IP ranges that are causing you problems are locally blocked you'll need to request local IP block exemption flag. Thank you, --dferg ^{☎ talk} 11:33, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

  Oh, well I was wondering if I am eligible for this flag since I am somewhat active cross-wiki. Fridae'sDoom 06:09, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

  Actually, if the school machines are shared-use, it'd be preferable for you to not use any accounts with substantial permissions on them. We all forget, at times, and do things like forget to log out after doing some work, or we're in a rush. If you're going to use shared-use machines, I'd really highly suggest making a second account for use on those. Kylu 06:18, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

  (ec) FD, no one's talking about your cross-wiki activity. The point is, if your school IPs are not globally blocked but only locally blocked, this flag will not do anything. sonia 06:24, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

• As this isn't going to do what the requestor wants it to do, I'm gonna have to say   let's not here. Fridae'sDoom: Do you want to withdraw or continue your request? Kylu 01:07, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

  I'm going to ask a question, is the permission able to be granted if the IPs aren't globally blocked? My school's IPs are all hardblocked but I don't think it's global. Having the flag wouldn't hurt would it, or is such a flag not granted pre-emptively? Fridae'sDoom 07:03, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

  It's not granted in the way you describe, no. It's only applicable for globally blocked IPs; it cannot override local hardblocks. Since encountering a global block is often not very likely (unless they're proxies, they are as short a length as possible), pre-emptively granting the flag is unnecessary and pointless. Since you aren't using an IP that is globally blocked, this request won't be granted. Best, PeterSymonds 08:25, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

  Ah, I assumed that it was a cross-wiki block or something like that, now that I understand I'd like this request closed since I don't think I'll be using a globally blocked IP for all eternity, given the description you've given to me Peter it seems I'm highly unlikely to find such an IP. I would like to request how I can check to see if an IP is gloabally blocked. Thanks, Fridae'sDoom 10:27, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

  Actually is a global IP block a cross-wiki block? If it is, can I have the link to account creation to first see if that is the case with my IPs. Fridae'sDoom 10:43, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

  There's no way, to my knowledge, to perform a "cross-wiki block", since that would imply blocking a user/IP on another project from the project one is currently on. There are two types of blocks: Global IP blocks and local blocks (which may be user or IP). The GIPBE flag only grants exemption to global IP blocks, it has nothing to do with local blocks at all. As you're not currently globally IP blocked, this flag does nothing for you. Kylu 02:15, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

  Ah, I see a global block is a block that applies for all WMF wikis. The only way to find out if my IP was globally blocked would be to manually go through every globally blocked IP since CheckUser is only used for sockpuppet confirmation. Fridae'sDoom 06:43, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

  If you know your IP address you can search it at Special:GlobalBlockList (enter the IP/range in the box and hit "Search for blocks") --dferg ^{☎ talk} 06:28, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

  That's my problem I don't know my school IPs :/ I only know my home IPs and the latter aren't blocked. I know for certain my school IPs are blocked on enwiki but whether or not they are globally blocked I am uncertain. Fridae'sDoom 08:00, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

  http://www.ip-adress.com/IP_adresse/ (and similar tools) will show your external IP address. just open the site while you're in school. Rbrausse 11:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

  My school ip is only range-blocked locally it seems, I'll submit a new request at a later date should I use a globally blocked IP. Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм | Champagne? 00:31, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

• (deindent) So, are you withdrawing, then? Kylu 00:35, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

  Yest I am withdrawing, there is currently no need for GIPBE for me. Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм | Champagne? 09:52, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Closed

--dferg ^{☎ talk} 10:51, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

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Hello Meta!

as I plan to reactivate my Tor node at my private internet connection within the next days I hereby request a global IP block exempt. Since a couple of months I add mostly interwikis (regularly [100+ edits] in 15 projects) with http://toolserver.org/~joanjoc/artniw.php, this would be quite hard with a running Tor exit node. My account is not blocked in any language variant and at the German Wikipedia (my home wiki) I already belong to the ipblock exempt group. It would be great if I could get the right as both Wikipedia and Tor are quite important to me.

No idea if this will accepted as valid argument but I try it anyway: DerHexer met me once in Freiburg :) Greetings, Rbrausse 18:32, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, he did. ;o) But twice instead of once. :D —DerHexer (Talk) 20:38, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like a valid rationale. Shall we add a global block for the Tor exit node IP once (and if) the GIPBE is granted? Kylu 02:07, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

the time while I ran a Tor node the block was always incredible fast set :) Rbrausse 12:34, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Makes sense. NativeForeigner 20:49, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Jyothis mentioned in June 2010 “If I remember correctly, global ip block excempt only works for global blocks. Local block avoidances are thru local ip block excemptions on individual wikis.” So would a global IP block exempt be useful in that case? Kind regards, —DerHexer (Talk) 23:03, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

my IP address is static (if the exempt is granted I will disclose the address to someone here at meta), so it would be possible to block this address globally as open proxy. why should one project add a local block if the address is already blacklisted on meta? Rbrausse 12:39, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

  Support Assuming this passes, we give you: 1) GIPBE on your account and 2) a global block on your IP address. Seems that it might make more sense to ask one of our checkuser/stewards to perform a check and global IP block, though, this way there's nobody insinuating that we don't check before issuing GIPBs. :) Kylu 16:06, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

okay, deal :) who should I give my IP address for blocking? I wouldn't be happy with publishing it here in the wildpublic... Rbrausse 18:29, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

You can contact a steward privatelly via Special:EmailUser or send it to our private OTRS queue: stewards wikimedia org - Regards, --dferg ^{☎ talk} 22:04, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Done. IP will be globally blocked soon. Kind regards, —DerHexer (Talk) 21:01, 21 September 2010 (UTC)