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== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/24|Tech News: 2020-24]] ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/24|Translations]] are available.

'''Recent changes'''
* Some articles have tables that can be sorted in different ways. For example a list of countries can be sorted alphabetically but you can click on the size column to sort them by size. If you clicked on the column a second time it would sort the countries from the bottom to the top instead. A third click will now take you back to the original sorting. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226697]
* [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Lint_errors/self-closed-tag|Self-closed tags]] now work as in the [[:w:en:HTML5|HTML5]] specifications. This means you should stop using some of them. <code><nowiki><b/></nowiki></code> is an example of a self-closed tag that won't work. <code>area, base, br, col, embed, hr, img, input, keygen, link, meta, param, source, track, wbr</code> can be self-closed. Pages with tags that should not be self-closed have been listed in [[:wikidata:Q25885956|a tracking category]] since 2016. They will be listed in [[Special:LintErrors/self-closed-tag]]. This doesn't affect <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki><ref /></nowiki></code>. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134423]
* There is a banner called <code>WikidataPageBanner</code>. It is for example used by the Wikivoyages, Wikimedia Russia and the Catalan, Basque, Galician and Turkish Wikipedias. It will now been seen by mobile visitors too. Before this it was only seen on desktop. The wikis should update instructions on <code>MediaWiki:Sitenotice</code> so that editors know to test and style for mobile too. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254534][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254295]

'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] You can now edit [[m:Special:MyLanguage/MassMessage|MassMessage]] descriptions through the [[:w:en:Application programming interface|API]]. This is useful for tools and gadgets. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T226929]
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/wmf.36|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 June. It will be on all wikis from 11 June ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/Roadmap|calendar]]).

'''Future changes'''
* A temporary fix helped wikis make their main pages more mobile friendly. This was in 2012. It has not been recommended since 2017. It will not work after 13 July. Wikis should use [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:TemplateStyles|TemplateStyles]] instead. 118 wikis need to fix this. You can [[phab:T254287|read more and see if your wiki is affected]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254287]

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== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/25|Tech News: 2020-25]] ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/25|Translations]] are available.

'''Recent changes'''
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] [[m:Toolforge|Toolforge]] hosts several tools created by the Wikimedia community like edit counters or enhanced editors. It is changing the domain from '''tools.wmflabs.org''' to '''toolforge.org'''. The routing scheme is moving from '''tools.wmflabs.org/toolname''' to '''toolname.toolforge.org'''. You can [[:wikitech:News/Toolforge.org|read the details]]. Tools that use OAuth will have to be updated to keep working. You can [[:wikitech:Help:Cloud_ Services Introduction|ask for help]].

'''Problems'''
* There is a Wikidata item link in the sidebar on many pages. This disappeared for a couple of days for users who have the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Skin:MonoBook|Monobook]] skin. This was because of a bug. It has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254485]
* Editing, logging in and logging out didn't work properly for a short period of time last week. It was soon fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255179]

'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/wmf.37|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 June. It will be on all wikis from 18 June ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/Roadmap|calendar]]).

'''Future changes'''
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Pywikibot|Pywikibot]] is a Python [[:w:en:Library (computing)|library]] to automate work on wikis. It will not support [[:w:en:Python (programming language)|Python 2]] after the new version in July. Support for Python 3.4 and MediaWiki below 1.19 will also be dropped. You should migrate to Python 3. You can [[:phab:T242120|ask for help]]. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/pywikibot-announce/2020-June/000015.html]
* The selectors <code>.menu</code> and <code>.vectorMenu</code> will no longer work in the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Skin:Vector|Vector]] skin. This can affect gadgets and user scripts. <code>.menu</code> should be replaced by <code>ul</code>. <code>.vectorMenu</code> should be replaced by <code>.vector-menu</code>. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254797]

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== Could an administrator ban this IP address ==

Hello everyone, <br />
<br />
An IP address uses to modify Walloon pages and this IP address adds useless characters. Unfortunately, I'm not an administrator on this Wiki, so it would be difficult for me to ban it by myself. [[Special:Contributions/46.139.36.29|Here it is]]. <br />
<br />
Sincerely yours, <br/ >
<br />
[[User:Èl-Gueuye-Noere|Èl-Gueuye-Noere]] ([[User talk:Èl-Gueuye-Noere|talk]]) 14:32, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

:{{done}} --[[User:Zyephyrus|Zyephyrus]] ([[User talk:Zyephyrus|talk]]) 15:02, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

== Ambiguous copyright status of translation of PD-US-1923-abroad work ==

Hi to all! I would like to propose to the community to consider and discuss how to deal with following copyright case. During the course of my work on Moksha-language magazine [[Колхозонь эряф|"Kolkhozon eryaf" (Колхозонь эряф)]], I found, in the issue 1 of 1936 of that magazine, an article of authorship by Soviet leader Joseph Stalin. The article was originally a speech about Vladimir Lenin spoken by Stalin in 1924 shortly after the Lenin's death, and shortly after that the speech was printed (in Russian) in the form of an an article in the Soviet newspaper "Pravda" ("Truth") in the same 1924 year; and in the 1936 year that article was translated to the Moksha language and printed in the 1936's issue No. 1 of "Kolkhozon eryaf". Original Russian article by Stalin is PD in the US because it was published in 1924 — more than 95 years ago, and the copyright of the work has expired in the US. Several days ago (16.06.2020) I created local Stalin's author's page here: [[Author:Иосиф Виссарионович Сталин]], and also published here that Russian work created by him: [[О Ленине: Речь на вечере кремлевских курсантов 28 января 1924 г. (Сталин)]]. But the Moksha translation of that work has seemingly ambiguous copyright status. From the first hand, this translation should be copyrighted in the US and would go in PD only in the 1936 + 95 + 1 = 2032 year; from the other hand, it should be in PD in the US already. I asked for help on the English Wikisource, and there I tried to provide verbose explanation what the problem is, so I suppose it would be okay not to repeat the same information here but just to give link to that topic: [[:en:Wikisource:Scriptorium/Help/Archives/2020#Question_on_US_copyrights_regarding_foreign_translated_works_and_URAA]] <small>(changed the link. — [[User:Nigmont|Nigmont]] ([[User talk:Nigmont|talk]]) 10:30, 4 July 2020 (UTC))</small>. You may read my explanation there, and also comments done by [[User:Xover]] and [[User:Prosfilaes]] (great thanks to both of them, expecially to Xover).

And, as it is seen from that discussion, there is no clear answer whether this translation is copyrighted in the US or not, though it seems that, much likely (per convincing arguments provided by Xover), it should be in PD in the US already. Though, Xover and Prosfilaes have not evidences on that case, and I guess, based on silence of others in that topic, other En-WS users have not such evidences too.

Now, I would like to ask for opinions from the community, especially from admins: whether publishing of that Moksha translation is allowed, or might be allowed?

First: may be, anybody of the users here, on the mul-WS, has fully convincing information which doubtlessly proves one of those two options, or real example of treatment of similar case in any US court? If yes, I would greatly appreciate if you share that information here. English Wikisource users seemingly have not such information or example, but may be someone here has such knowledge?

Second: if it occurs that nevertheless nobody knows any proofs regarding the case: then I propose to consider / assume that the work is in PD in US, and to allow me to publish it here, amongst other "Kolkhozon eryaf" articles. Reasons why I ask for that:

1. It is much likely, as seen from that discussion and opinion of Xover, that both copyrights (original's and translation's) should be treated separately and run concurrently, and now both of them are invalid in the US. But, of course, we are not yet sure altogether that it is really so.

2. The second reason is that this particular translation has zero commercial value in the US, so publishing it here does not infringe any commercial interests in US. There is no, I suppose, any persons amongst common US inhabitants, who can read and understand this (Moksha) language, and even if such people really exist in US then they are very few, and it is very doubtful that they would be ready to pay anything for this text. The only people in the US who might be interested in this text are linguist scholars who study Finno-Ugric languages (to which the Moksha language belongs), but those scholars can easily obtain any amount of Finno-Ugric texts without any payment just by contacting to institutions of Finno-Ugric regions of Russia, or to Finno-Ugric countries outside Russia — that is, Hungary, Finland, Estonia. So, for those scholars there is no need to buy this text for money. Also, this text is not suitable for translation to English, because it is much easier to make translation to English from the original Russian work than from a translation made to other language (especially from a translation to this language which is obviously much less known in America in comparison to Russian).

Now, I would be glad to see any opinions from the community on this issue. Regards, [[User:Nigmont|Nigmont]] ([[User talk:Nigmont|talk]]) 14:24, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

'''Update.''' I now change the link to the topic in En-WS Scriptorium/Help provided in my post above above, because that topic has already gone to the archive there. --[[User:Nigmont|Nigmont]] ([[User talk:Nigmont|talk]]) 10:30, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
:I am personally convinced this must be PD per the reasoning I gave on enWS, but I cannot assert this with any certainty. To the best of my understanding this is not a question that can really be conclusively decided absent case law addressing the question directly. But an alternate way of looking at it—given uncertainty regarding its actual copyright status—is risk: what risk of liability would hosting this work impose on our contributors, readers, and re-users? As Nigmont adduces above, there seems exceedingly little commercial potential (probably the most common driver for legal action) for this work in the US and very little risk of getting sued, even ''iff'' it should turn out to be still in copyright. That would not be a valid argument for something known or likely to be in copyright, but I think it just might be the sensible approach for this particular case. --[[User:Xover|Xover]] ([[User talk:Xover|talk]]) 15:27, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

:For such texts, zhwikisource currently allow them following [[m:United_States_non-acceptance_of_the_rule_of_the_shorter_term#Statement_from_Wikimedia_Foundation]] (unless if in the [[m:Office actions|Office action]] cases, then we will temporary grant administrator right to *a [[m:Trust and Safety|T&S]] member*, and let them delete), not sure if ruwikisource allow them or not. --[[User:Liuxinyu970226|Liuxinyu970226]] ([[User talk:Liuxinyu970226|talk]]) 00:04, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
::English Wikisource does not wait for office actions to delete non-US works affected by the URAA, so the policy is stricter. Yet I can no longer trust its "alternate site" to host affected Chinese works.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] ([[User talk:Jusjih|talk]]) 00:18, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/26|Tech News: 2020-26]] ==

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'''Problems'''
* There are some [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Growth|new tools]] to make it easier for newcomers to start editing. They are available on [https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=dblists/growthexperiments.dblist some wikis]. These wikis had a problem with the visual editor for a short period of time last week. This was because of a bug in the new tools. It was soon fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255607]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] Some user scripts and gadgets stopped working because of a change to [[:w:en:CSS|CSS]] selectors. <code>.vectorTabs</code> should be replaced with <code>.vector-menu-tabs</code> to fix this. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255718]

'''Changes later this week'''
* The developers are working on a [[:m:WMDE Technical Wishes/Edit Conflicts#Edit conflicts on talk pages|new interface]] to solve edit conflicts on talk pages. This will be released on 24 June. You can [[mw:mw:Help talk:Paragraph-based Edit Conflict Interface|give feedback]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230231]
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/wmf.38|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 June. It will be on all wikis from 25 June ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/Roadmap|calendar]]).

'''Future changes'''
* A temporary fix helped wikis make their main pages more mobile friendly. This was in 2012. It has not been recommended since 2017. It will not work after 13 July. Wikis should use [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:TemplateStyles|TemplateStyles]] instead. 91 wikis still need to fix this. You can [[phab:T254287|read more and see if your wiki is affected]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254287]

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== Something about [[Wikisource:Subdomain coordination]] ==

In the "Ways to handle United States non-acceptance of the rule of the shorter term" column, there's only one wiki (the [[s:zh:|zhwikisource]]) that allow limited tolerance, while several projects still say "Wikilivres", which is unfortunately a dead site. Should there have updates for them?
* bnwikisource: ?
* cswikisource: ?
* dewikisource: ?
* enwikisource: ?
* eswikisource: ?
* frwikisource: ?
* lawikisource: ?
* ruwikisource: ?
--[[User:Liuxinyu970226|Liuxinyu970226]] ([[User talk:Liuxinyu970226|talk]]) 11:57, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
:Yes, there should but I don't immediately know what those updates would be and the only languages out of that list that I understand are English and Spanish. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 01:41, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
::As I know, English Wikisource does not tolerate as much as Chinese Wikisource about the United States non-acceptance of the rule of the shorter term, while https://wikilivres.ru still works. Yet Chinese Wikisource users are not convinced to use a Russian site while upset about the death of Wikilivres. "Pre-1925 works still copyrighted in source country allowed" should be better filled in.--[[User:Jusjih|Jusjih]] ([[User talk:Jusjih|talk]]) 04:33, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

== Ginrsig ==

Please revert & revdel [[Special:Contributions/Ginrsig]]. A lock has been requested at [[:m:srg]]. [[User:Cabayi|Cabayi]] ([[User talk:Cabayi|talk]]) 07:24, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
:...also [[Special:Contributions/Dunkintoilet]]. [[User:Cabayi|Cabayi]] ([[User talk:Cabayi|talk]]) 08:35, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/27|Tech News: 2020-27]] ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/27|Translations]] are available.

'''Problems'''
* Everyone was logged out. This was because a few users saw the wikis as if they were logged in to someone else's account. The problem should be fixed now. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2020-June/093543.html]
* Some readers didn't see new edits to pages. If the page had been recently changed they saw an older version of the page instead. This only affected readers who were logged out. It lasted for ten days. It has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256444]

'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/wmf.39|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 July. It will be on all wikis from 1 July ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/Roadmap|calendar]]).

'''Future changes'''
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|]] The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Skin:Modern|Modern]] and [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Skin:Monobook|Monobook]] skins use the ID <code>searchGoButton</code> for the go button. This is <code>searchButton</code> for [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Skin:Vector|Vector]]. To have the same ID for all skins it will change to <code>searchButton</code> in Monobook and Modern too. This will affect gadgets and user scripts. It will happen on 23 July. They should be updated to use <code>searchButton</code>. You can [[phab:T255953|read more and see a list of affected scripts]].

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== Feedback on movement names ==

{{int:Hello}}. Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. {{int:please-translate}} if necessary. {{Int:Feedback-thanks-title}}

There are a lot of conversations happening about the future of our movement names. We hope that you are part of these discussions and that your community is represented.

Since 16 June, the Foundation Brand Team has been running a [https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_9G2dN7P0T7gPqpD survey] in 7 languages about [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Communications/Wikimedia brands/2030 movement brand project/Naming convention proposals|3 naming options]]. There are also community members sharing concerns about renaming in a [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Community open letter on renaming|Community Open Letter]].

Our goal in this call for feedback is to hear from across the community, so we encourage you to participate in the survey, the open letter, or both. The survey will go through 7 July in all timezones. Input from the survey and discussions will be analyzed and published on Meta-Wiki.

Thanks for thinking about the future of the movement, --[[:m:Talk:Communications/Wikimedia brands/2030 movement brand project|The Brand Project team]], 19:39, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

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== Equals sign parser function template conflicts ==
See [[m:Equals sign parser function template conflicts]]. This wiki is affected by this issue. [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 15:27, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Shruggy|Jimregan}} I suggest renaming {{tl|1==}} to {{tl|1=v=}} (v as Volapük) and substitute current use through a bot action. Other proposals? Objections? [[User:Ankry|Ankry]] ([[User talk:Ankry|talk]]) 16:14, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
::{{Ping|Ankry}} No objections from me (though I just wanted a regular '=', and didn't want to cause a fuss) -- [[User:Jimregan|Jimregan]] ([[User talk:Jimregan|talk]]) 19:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
::Actually... if you do, please skip [[Page:Jimín Mháire Thaidhg.djvu/123]], [[Jimín Mháire Thaidhg/Gluais]], [[Page:Jimín Mháire Thaidhg.djvu/118]], [[Page:Jimín Mháire Thaidhg.djvu/120]], [[Page:Jimín Mháire Thaidhg.djvu/121]], [[Page:Irisleabhar na Gaedhilge vols 5+6.djvu/129]], [[Page:Catilína - Ua Laoghaire.djvu/79]], [[Page:Catilína - Ua Laoghaire.djvu/80]], [[Page:Catilína - Ua Laoghaire.djvu/98]], and [[Page:Irisleabhar na Gaedhilge vols 5+6.djvu/20]], as {{tl|1==}} is what was intended there. TIA. -- [[User:Jimregan|Jimregan]] ([[User talk:Jimregan|talk]]) 19:26, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Ankry|Jimregan}} I would suggest {{tl|doh}} as the character is a [[w:en:Double hyphen|'''D'''ouble '''O'''blique '''H'''yphen]], not an equals sign and not restricted to Volapük. Any apparent connection to Homer Simpson is entirely coincidental. [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 21:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
::::{{Ping|Alexis Jazz}} I am not sure if an English abbreviation is useful if the template is used basically in Volapük texts. We may create as many redirects as we wish or rename the template in future. [[User:Ankry|Ankry]] ([[User talk:Ankry|talk]]) 07:36, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Ankry|Shruggy|Jimregan}} well I won't stand in your way. If you want a name that references Volapük, I think {{tl|tlml}} with a redirect at {{tl|teilamalül}} would be more appropriate than v=, as it's not a Volapük equals sign. Also just having an actual equals sign in a template name looks confusing. But again, I won't stand stand in your way. [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 16:35, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|Ankry|Shruggy|Jimregan}} On hiwikisource (the admins didn't respond to pings) I moved it to [https://hi.wikisource.org/wiki/%E0%A4%B8%E0%A4%BE%E0%A4%81%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%BE:Teilamal%C3%BCl Teilamalül]. ([[d:Q97143249]]) [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 14:32, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
:{{ping|Ankry|Shruggy|Jimregan}} [[phab:T91154|Time is running out.]] I suggest you move the template. If you don't, I'll move it to {{tl|teilamalül}} which I believe is better than {{tl|1=v=}}, but I won't revert if you pick that instead. [[User:Alexis Jazz|Alexis Jazz]] ([[User talk:Alexis Jazz|talk]]) 16:47, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
::I agree with Alexis's suggestion. --[[User:Liuxinyu970226|Liuxinyu970226]] ([[User talk:Liuxinyu970226|talk]]) 10:49, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
:: Moved to {{tl|tm}}. {{ping|Jimregan}} Consider using {{tl|1===}} then. [[User:Shruggy|Shruggy]] ([[User talk:Shruggy|talk]]) 21:59, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/28|Tech News: 2020-28]] ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/28|Translations]] are available.

'''Problems'''
* The [[mw:Special:MyLanguageExtension:Score|Score]] extension has been disabled for now. This is because of a security issue. It will work again as soon as the security issue has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257066]

'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/wmf.40|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 July. It will be on all wikis from 9 July ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/Roadmap|calendar]]).

'''Future changes'''
* Abstract Wikipedia is a new Wikimedia project. It will collect language-independent information that can be easily read in different languages. It builds on Wikidata. The name is preliminary. You can [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia|read more]]. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2020-July/093571.html]
* The [[mw:Wikimedia Apps/Team/iOS|iOS Wikipedia app]] developers are thinking about new experimental tools. If you use an iPhone you can help them by [[mw:Wikimedia Apps/Team/iOS/2020 survey|answering the survey]].
* Some [[mw:New requirements for user signatures#Outcome|rules for user signatures]] will soon be enforced. [[Special:LintErrors|Lint errors]] and invalid HTML will no longer be allowed in user signatures. Nested substitution will not be allowed. A link to your user page, user talk page or user contributions will be required. You can [https://signatures.toolforge.org/check check if your signature works with the new rules]. This is because the signatures can cause problems for tools or other text on the page.

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== Announcing a new wiki project! Welcome, Abstract Wikipedia ==

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Hi all,

It is my honor to introduce Abstract Wikipedia, a new project that has been unanimously approved by the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. Abstract Wikipedia proposes a new way to generate baseline encyclopedic content in a multilingual fashion, allowing more contributors and more readers to share more knowledge in more languages. It is an approach that aims to make cross-lingual cooperation easier on our projects, increase the sustainability of our movement through expanding access to participation, improve the user experience for readers of all languages, and innovate in free knowledge by connecting some of the strengths of our movement to create something new.

This is our first new project in over seven years. Abstract Wikipedia was submitted as a project proposal by Denny Vrandečić in May 2020 <ref>[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia|Abstract Wikipedia]]</ref> after years of preparation and research, leading to a detailed plan and lively discussions in the Wikimedia communities. We know that the energy and the creativity of the community often runs up against language barriers, and information that is available in one language may not make it to other language Wikipedias. Abstract Wikipedia intends to look and feel like a Wikipedia, but build on the powerful, language-independent conceptual models of Wikidata, with the goal of letting volunteers create and maintain Wikipedia articles across our polyglot Wikimedia world.

The project will allow volunteers to assemble the fundamentals of an article using words and entities from Wikidata. Because Wikidata uses conceptual models that are meant to be universal across languages, it should be possible to use and extend these building blocks of knowledge to create models for articles that also have universal value. Using code, volunteers will be able to translate these abstract “articles” into their own languages. If successful, this could eventually allow everyone to read about any topic in Wikidata in their own language.

As you can imagine, this work will require a lot of software development, and a lot of cooperation among Wikimedians. In order to make this effort possible, Denny will join the Foundation as a staff member in July and lead this initiative. You may know Denny as the creator of Wikidata, a long-time community member, a former staff member at Wikimedia Deutschland, and a former Trustee at the Wikimedia Foundation <ref>[[m:User:Denny|User:Denny]]</ref>. We are very excited that Denny will bring his skills and expertise to work on this project alongside the Foundation’s product, technology, and community liaison teams.

It is important to acknowledge that this is an experimental project, and that every Wikipedia community has different needs. This project may offer some communities great advantages. Other communities may engage less. Every language Wikipedia community will be free to choose and moderate whether or how they would use content from this project.

We are excited that this new wiki-project has the possibility to advance knowledge equity through increased access to knowledge. It also invites us to consider and engage with critical questions about how and by whom knowledge is constructed. We look forward to working in cooperation with the communities to think through these important questions.

There is much to do as we begin designing a plan for Abstract Wikipedia in close collaboration with our communities. I encourage you to get involved by going to the project page and joining the new mailing list <ref>[[mail:abstract-wikipedia|Abstract Wikipedia mailing list]]</ref>. We recognize that Abstract Wikipedia is ambitious, but we also recognize its potential. We invite you all to join us on a new, unexplored path.

Yours,

Katherine Maher (Executive Director, Wikimedia Foundation)

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== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/30|Tech News: 2020-30]] ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/30|Translations]] are available.

'''Recent changes'''
* A temporary fix helped wikis make their main pages more mobile friendly. This was in 2012. It has not been recommended since 2017. The mobile main page special casing stopped working 14 July. 60 wikis now have main pages that don't work well on mobile. You can see which ones, how to fix it and how to get help [[phab:T254287|in Phabricator]]. This is the same problem that was reported in Tech News [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/24|2020/24]] and [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/26|2020/26]].

'''Problems'''
* There is a problem with the interlanguage links. The interlanguage links are the links that help you find a specific page in a different language. The sorting is broken. The developers are working on a solution. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257625]
* Some users keep getting the notifications for the same event. Some of these are old events. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257714]
* Some users have trouble logging in. This is probably a [[:w:en:HTTP cookie|browser cookie]] problem. The developers are working on understanding the problem. If you have trouble logging in you can see the details [[phab:T258121|on Phabricator]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258121]

'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/wmf.1|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 July. It will be on all wikis from 23 July ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/Roadmap|calendar]]).

'''Future changes'''
* There is a <code>{{int:printableversion}}</code> link. This will disappear. That is because web browsers today can create a printable version or show how it will look in print anyway. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167956]

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== Wikisource Ligurian exists ==

See [[:lij:]]. Thanks to [[User:MF-Warburg]] for importing. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 23:19, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

== Bringing order to how language categories are named ==

Currently, the subcategories of [[:Category:Languages]] are all over the place: some are named after their native name (e.g. [[:Category:Plattdüütsch]]), others are named after their English name and have a local redirect (e.g. [[:Category:Albanian]] and [[:Category:Shqip]]), and still others use another form (e.g. [[:Category:Mìng-dĕ̤ng-ngṳ̄/閩東語]]). Since some categories ''cannot'' have a localized form ([[:Category:Multilingual]], [[:Category:Unknown Languages]], [[:Category:No linguistic content]]), I propose renaming all of these to start with ISO codes, followed by local names, and then defaulting to English in parenthesis. E.g. we would now have [[:Category:sq Shqip (Albanian)]] and [[:Category:mul (Multiple languages)]]. This will help impose a uniform scheme to categorization, make it easier to actually find a language, and make it clear to new users how to name languages that are added. I'm happy to get feedback for the next two weeks. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 13:42, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
:Additionally, all content pages should be in a subcategory of [[:Category:Languages]], even if they are in a subcategory of that. E.g. Category:''Language'' has the subcategory Category:''Magazine published in that language'': all those pages should also be in Category:''Language'' so that the total page counts on [[Wikisource:Languages]] and on the various Main Pages are accurate. I think I'll do a couple of subcategories today just so others can see what I mean and if there's some pushback, I can revert. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:07, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
:Just posting again to make sure others see my edits: I had a pseudobot flag turned on for awhile as I did maintenance work. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 23:04, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
:I have already done this with [[:Category:Mis (Uncoded languages)]], [[:Category:Mul (Multiple languages)]], [[:Category:Und (Undetermined)]], and [[:Category:Zxx (No linguistic content)]] for starters. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 03:00, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
::I encourage everyone to take a look at [[Wikisource:Languages]] to see some of the changes that I've made. I have updated the table with some semantics and new category names. It should be pretty clear which ones have been moved. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 05:19, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
: Strongly {{oppose}}. Proposed names are intricate and uncomfortable (too many letters, brackets etc). Let every language community itself will determine name for their category. At least do not move categories with English names. --[[User:Wadorgurt|Wadorgurt]] ([[User talk:Wadorgurt|talk]]) 09:25, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Hello, {{ping|Koavf}}

Regarding your initial proposal: ''"I propose renaming all of these to start with ISO codes, followed by local names, and then defaulting to English in parenthesis"''. As of me personally, such renaming does not seem to me something bad, but nevertheless, as I think, it would be better to arrange some voting first — whether active users of local wikisources here support such change in categorizing, or they oppose it. It seems to me that most users have accustomed to the current naming and some of them might reject such change.

But regarding your second statement: ''"Additionally, all content pages should be in a subcategory of Category:Languages, even if they are in a subcategory of that"'' — sorry, but I strongly disagree with that. As I understand, the purpose which you mean to achieve with that recategorizing — to get "accurate numbers", as yourselves said: ''"so that the total page counts on Wikisource:Languages and on the various Main Pages are accurate"''. Firstly, which page counts you want to obtain this way? Counts of normal content pages only, without proofread pages; or counts of content pages together with proofread pages (that is, together with items in the "Page" namespace)? You should know, that currently some local wikisources include in their categories not only content pages but also proofread pages; but other wikisources do not include proofread pages — only content pages are collected in those ones. So, regardless which kind of numbers you want to gain — you are not able to get precisely any of those by this way: for part of Wikisources you get the first kind of statistics, and for others — the second, but you never get any of them for all wikisources at once. Secondly: such moving may cause troublesome mess in the form of mixture of main pages, subpages and proofread pages, which would occur after proposed actions. For example, let's look on category [[:Category:Мокшень]] which content is completely created by me. Currently it has well-organized structure, in which each content page is represented in the main category by its "entry point", which may be in a form of: a redirection which leads to its associated content page (for example, ''[[Критик-революционер]]'' leads to subpage [[Колхозонь эряф/1936/01/Критик-революционер]]), or a version page — for different versions of the same work (for example, [[Ульхть ударник]]), or a disambiguation page (for example [[Тунда]]) — for same-name works which are really different. And if you do as you are intending now, then that your action would cause in that category, at first, a duplication of counts of works (because their entry points will be in the same category as the content pages themselves, and the same work is counted twice), and at second, it would fill the Moksha category with hundreds of various subpages (of Kolkhozon eryaf and Valda yan magazines, as well as chapters of multi-chaptered books) and thousands of proofread pages. And it would be then a total trouble to navigate through such mess of various items, and it would be very hard for a reader to find there something to read. So I urgently ask you not to do such "categorizing" — at least to my categories [[:Category:Мокшень]] and [[:Category:Эрзянь]] — the content of them both was created all (or almost all) by me, and I spent a lot of time of efforts to fill them, so I hope my work here will be respected and you would not do such an abuse to the look of those categories. Regarding all other local Wikisources here: though I am not sure of course, but I am inclined to think that your such actions also can make the same trouble to other users as well as it does to me.

And if counts of pages are so urgently needed, that I propose to consider another ways to get them. 1-st option available: to implement a gadget or module (Lua script) which would take given language category and pass through it and get all desired counts; and if different kinds of stats are needed — then it may be implemented by different fuctions of that gadget / script; and in the table with local WS languages, those functions may be invoked and report correct statistics and display them in the cells of the table. 2-nd option: to arrange a bot's algorithm which will do needed calculations of stats, and this bot may be lauched, for example, on daily basis, and it will update counts in the table with actual values. I think, any of these options is much more preferable then forced recategorizing of items in language categories which can annoy, frustrate and irritate users. I think, you should let local Wikisources go as their users want to go, and avoid to impose any forced and violent changes in the inner structure of their categories, as well as to other kinds of formatting accepted on the pages of those Wikisources. --[[User:Nigmont|Nigmont]] ([[User talk:Nigmont|talk]]) 07:04, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Nigmont}} Thanks for this thorough response. I don't see any viable means to create any kind of vote, so posting to the Scriptorium seemed like the best way to get others' attention. Do you have a better venue where I could post? —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 07:08, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
::{{ping|Koavf}} No, I don't mean that you necessarily must do that in other place — the Scriptorium seems to be well suitable for that (though, page [[Wikisource:Votes]] does exist — may be, it would be more proper to arrange some voting there?). But the form of your proposal seems to me to be not quite appropriate. Look as you did: your informed about your intentions, but without awaiting any reactions, you already started all those mass changes, notwithstanding that for some users more time may be required to realize your ideas and how they could come in touch with their Wikisources and their work (and notwithstanding that you yourself said that ''"I'm happy to get feedback for the next two weeks"'' which for me personally also has a meaning of "I will wait for next two weeks, and if nobody is disagree — I start the changes", but you really started changes without awaiting for those two weeks). Many users might miss your topic at first (not everybody regularly visits the Scriptorium), and many come to Wikisource not on evereyday basis. I think a more correct way to settle an agreement would be:
::For first point (renaming the categories): I think you had to create a vote, invite (ping) there main contributors (you may look for example [[Wikisource:Active tests]] — there active contributors may be seen), as well as other admins, and put the possible renaming, proposed by you, for voting: Yes or No, or Neutral. Because your proposed renaming is a mass change and it would touch all the Wikisources here, so a more broad approval, I believe, is required here than just create a topic and, on just seeing that in couple days nobody had commented and answered, to start changes without further awaiting. The change is broad and massive, so any haste here is not necessary and even may be harmful (anyway, the wikisources existed in that state for many years and nobody attempted to change that, so the broad changes must be cautious because they may be sensitive).
::For the second point (re-categorizing): as I said above, I actively oppose such change, but nevertheless I agree for voting (separately from previous vote, since this is quite a different quiestion) for this point as well: and if majority of users accept your change — then so be it, I'll subdue if such is the consensus. Anyway, such change is also a mass change, and more broad acceptance is required on this point as well. --[[User:Nigmont|Nigmont]] ([[User talk:Nigmont|talk]]) 07:58, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/31|Tech News: 2020-31]] ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/31|Translations]] are available.

'''Recent changes'''
* The [[m:Small wiki toolkits/Starter kit|Starter kit]] is now available for wiki communities. This page lists technical resources, tools, and recommendations. These are essential to operate a wiki project. This is mostly useful for smaller wikis where the community has limited experience with this. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2020-July/093633.html]
* The first features of the [[mw:Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements|Desktop Improvements]] project are available for logged-in users on all wikis. In order to use them, uncheck ''{{int:prefs-vector-enable-vector-1-label}}'' in your [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering|local]] or [[Special:GlobalPreferences#mw-prefsection-rendering|global]] preferences in section ''{{int:prefs-skin-prefs}}''. More improvements are planned. [[mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements|Feedback is welcome]].
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] On multiple wikis, a UTCLiveClock gadget is available. For wikis that import the gadget [[:mw:MediaWiki:Gadget-UTCLiveClock.js|directly from mediawiki.org]], end users can now [[mw:MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-UTCLiveClock.js#Time_zones|choose a different timezone to show instead of UTC]].

'''Problems'''
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] The deployment train for MediaWiki has been blocked this week. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2020-July/093640.html][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257969]
* Translation Notification Bot was sending the same message multiple times to every translator. This has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144780]
* Some users were receiving the same notification multiple times. This has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257766]

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* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/wmf.2|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 28. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from July 29. It will be on all wikis from JUly 30 ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/Roadmap|calendar]]).

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== Interwikis and Wikidata on authors' pages are broken ==

I would like to inform the community that currently interwikis and Wikidata links are broken on authors' pages: even if the Wikidata item exists for an author page and is correctly referenced in the corresponding parameter of the [[:Template:Author]], then whatever — in the "Plain sister" pane at the right top corner the message "Search wikidata" is displayed (as if Wikidata had not been normally found), and interwikis on the left are absent. Examples: [[Author:Максим Горький]] in the Moksha WS, or else [[Author:Peadar Ua Laoghaire]] in the Irish (Gaeilge) WS. I am not sure but maybe this issue is related to recent (27.07.2020) changes of [[:Template:Author]] done by [[User:Koavf]] (see [https://wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Author&action=history revisions' history]). Could anyone try to fix this problem and restore normal displaying of interwikis and Wikidata? --[[User:Nigmont|Nigmont]] ([[User talk:Nigmont|talk]]) 22:33, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
:I don't see how [https://wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AAuthor&type=revision&diff=792312&oldid=658988 this] would cause interwiki links to break. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:32, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
:Still not sure what you're talking about as the sister links appear before and after my most recent revision. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:35, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
::I didn't assuredly assert that the reason is the change in [[:Template:Author]] made by you — I just did a guess (which might be wrong, of course), a hypothesis. Meanwhile, you also did an edit in template Plain sister: [https://wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Plain_sister&diff=prev&oldid=792066 (54 revisions imported from en:Template:Plain_sister: Highly-linked page, important)], as I understand, this template is invoked from Template:Author: maybe you forgot to import something which also needed in connection with that template? Though, it is also just a guess, please don't think that I affirm this supposition as an absolute truth. All this topic should be considered just as a proposal to solve the problem, which obviously exists for now. The only thing in which I am sure — that earlier in July interwikis were OK and recently they disappeared for some reason, still unknown. And I just want that somebody would help with that. --[[User:Nigmont|Nigmont]] ([[User talk:Nigmont|talk]]) 01:10, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
:::A good guess but reverting that didn't seem to do anything. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 02:04, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
::::Also, [[Module:Interwiki]] is working on this page. —[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 02:07, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/32|Tech News: 2020-32]] ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/32|Translations]] are available.

'''Problems'''
* All queries to the [[mw:Wikidata Query Service|Wikidata Query Service]] failed between 17:50 and 17:59 UTC on Thursday 23 July. Some queries failed during a longer period. [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incident_documentation/20200723-wdqs-outage]
* Interlanguage links were ordered incorrectly for the past few weeks. This problem was also mentioned in [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/30|Tech News two weeks ago]]. The problem is now fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257625]
* There is a problem with the [[Special:GlobalPreferences#mw-prefsection-rendering|global preferences]] for the "{{int:prefs-vector-enable-vector-1-label}}" option. Developers are working on fixing it. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258493]
* A bug in the Wikibase extension had disabled the "move" and "create" types of protection in the main (Gallery) namespace on Wikimedia Commons. New protections could not be added, and existing protections were not enforced, allowing some page moves and page creations that should not have been possible. This has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258323]

'''Changes later this week'''
* The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:TimedMediaHandler/VideoJS Player|video player]] will change to be simpler and more modern. This week, the current beta feature will become the video player for everyone on most non-Wikipedia wikis. The old player will be removed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248418]
* Users' <code>global.js</code> and <code>global.css</code> pages will now also be loaded on the mobile site. You can read [[mw:Help:Extension:GlobalCssJs#Per-skin_customization|documentation]] for how to avoid applying styles to the mobile skin. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138727]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] In the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Skin:MonoBook|MonoBook]] skin, the <code>searchGoButton</code> identifier is now <code>searchButton</code>. This may affect CSS and JS gadgets. Migration instructions can be found in [[phab:T255953|T255953]]. This was previously mentioned in [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/27|issue 27]].
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] Bot operators can use Pywikibot to regularly archive discussions. The behavior when the bot uses <code>counter</code> to prevent large archives was changed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215247]
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/wmf.3|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 4. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from August 5. It will be on all wikis from August 6 ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/Roadmap|calendar]]).

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== Bot request: Palmleaf Bot ==

This bot will create Index pages for files from the ongoing [[commons:Special:Contributions/Palmleaf_Bot|batch upload]] on Commons relating to the active [[m:Grants:Project/PanLex/Balinese_palm-leaf_transcription_platform_on_Wikisource|Balinese palm-leaf manuscript project grant]]. I've created a few of these pages already, which you can see [[Special:Contributions/Palmleaf_Bot|here]]. Creating index pages in advance simplifies the workflow for Balinese contributors moving from Palmleaf.org and ensures uniformity across the project work. The index page creation will run as a simple python script using the mwclient module and will pause 30 seconds between pages.

Note that it is not possible to fill in most metadata (author, publisher, etc.) because most works are anonymous manuscripts. In some cases additional metadata (e.g. year) may become available once Balinese contributors are able to transcribe the work, but that requires creating the index page first so they can work on it.

--[[User:Lautgesetz|Lautgesetz]] ([[User talk:Lautgesetz|talk]]) 20:37, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
:{{Ping|-jkb-|Ooswesthoesbes|Zyephyrus}} ^^^ [[User:Ankry|Ankry]] ([[User talk:Ankry|talk]]) 16:47, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
::@[[User:Lautgesetz|Lautgesetz]]: Could you please create a user page for the bot acount, so we know who is the owner and we can easily contact him in case of a malfunction? --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|Ooswesthoesbes]] ([[User talk:Ooswesthoesbes|talk]]) 17:28, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
::: Done. The user page is [[User:Palmleaf Bot|here]]. --[[User:Lautgesetz|Lautgesetz]] ([[User talk:Lautgesetz|talk]]) 18:19, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
::::<span class="plainlinks">[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Bots/Requests/Palmleaf_Bot Indications too on Commons and your bot has been approved there]</span>. --[[User:Zyephyrus|Zyephyrus]] ([[User talk:Zyephyrus|talk]]) 19:16, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
:::::Correct. For the user page here I just put the tasks it will be doing on this wiki. --[[User:Lautgesetz|Lautgesetz]] ([[User talk:Lautgesetz|talk]]) 19:22, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
:::::: How many edits a day will your bot - appoximately - do? [[User:-jkb-|-jkb-]] ([[User talk:-jkb-|talk]]) 21:09, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
::::::: Right now all it will do is create the index pages (2,854 pages, one every 30 seconds = about 24 hours total). If any batch updates are needed to those pages in the future, then I will run it again for that. It will not run permanently in the background. In the future it will be used to copy existing content from Palmleaf.org into corresponding pages in the Page: namespace. For any given task it will always be a single run. I can modify the pause between edits if necessary. --[[User:Lautgesetz|Lautgesetz]] ([[User talk:Lautgesetz|talk]]) 21:24, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

{{Done}} The waiting period for a week has expired and it looks good. Please make sure any new pages are categorized in a language category or a subcategory of a language category (you have done this already up until now). --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|Ooswesthoesbes]] ([[User talk:Ooswesthoesbes|talk]]) 15:54, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

'''Comment:''' It seems to me that something is wrong with that bot: it is working now, but its edits are currently not marked with "bot" ('''b''') tag, so they are not filtered from "Recent changes" page. As I understand, one of the goals of acquiring the "bot" flag for an account is tagging bot routine edits with bot flag and filter them out from Recent changes. But it has been not done for this bot, and it is not a good thing. {{ping|Lautgesetz}} could you please set up your bot, in order its edits were tagged with '''b''' mark? --[[User:Nigmont|Nigmont]] ([[User talk:Nigmont|talk]]) 20:46, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
: OK, I'll try to fix that. On Commons the instructions suggested I shouldn't use the bot flag for the batch upload, but I can see how the recent edits are different. --[[User:Lautgesetz|Lautgesetz]] ([[User talk:Lautgesetz|talk]]) 22:55, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
: I'm having it make all edits with the bot flag now, but not sure if it's working. --[[User:Lautgesetz|Lautgesetz]] ([[User talk:Lautgesetz|talk]]) 23:32, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
::This is very remarkable.. As far as I can see, the bot flag is on the account; as such it should be filtered out. Any of the other admins know what's happening here? @[[User:Ankry|Ankry]]/[[User:-jkb-|-jkb-]]/[[User:Zyephyrus|Zyephyrus]]. --[[User:Ooswesthoesbes|Ooswesthoesbes]] ([[User talk:Ooswesthoesbes|talk]]) 06:27, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
:::Unsure which exactly pywikibot script is used and with which parameters. Maybe the bot should logout/login after it got the flag? AFAIR, pywikibot gives a warning when doing edits not marked as bot edits. Or, maybe ask at #wikimedia-tech if still unresolved? [[User:Ankry|Ankry]] ([[User talk:Ankry|talk]]) 07:13, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
::: Sorry, but problems with bots is not something I can judge :-) [[User:-jkb-|-jkb-]] ([[User talk:-jkb-|talk]]) 20:03, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

== comics ==

what is en-ws' policy on transcribing comics, and if it is allowed, any advice on doing so? [[User:Arlo Barnes|Arlo Barnes]] ([[User talk:Arlo Barnes|talk]]) 05:54, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
:apologies, thought I was on en-ws, which I see now has a category:comics. Still, the question stands for those existing in mul's purview; I particular, I have my eye on the many languages of [[w:en:Pepper&Carrot]]. [[User:Arlo Barnes|Arlo Barnes]] ([[User talk:Arlo Barnes|talk]]) 12:05, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
::{{Ping|Arlo Barnes}} I think there is no special policy about comics here, so the general ones apply: it has to be PD-US (or CC-BY-SA 3.0 licensed), published, and not suitable for a separate domain Wikisource. [[User:Ankry|Ankry]] ([[User talk:Ankry|talk]]) 16:37, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

== Technical Wishes: FileExporter and FileImporter become default features on all Wikis ==

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The [[m:WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Move_files_to_Commons|FileExporter and FileImporter]] will become a default features on all wikis until August 7, 2020. They are planned to help you to move files from your local wiki to Wikimedia Commons easier while keeping all original file information (Description, Source, Date, Author, View History) intact. Additionally, the move is documented in the files view history.
How does it work?

Step 1: If you are an auto-confirmed user, you will see a link "Move file to Wikimedia Commons" on the local file page.

Step 2: When you click on this link, the FileImporter checks if the file can in fact be moved to Wikimedia Commons. These checks are performed based on the wiki's [[m:WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Move_files_to_Commons/Configuration_file_documentation|configuration file]] which is created and maintained by each local wiki community.

Step 3: If the file is compatible with Wikimedia Commons, you will be taken to an import page, at which you can update or add information regarding the file, such as the description. You can also add the 'Now Commons' template to the file on the local wiki by clicking the corresponding check box in the import form. Admins can delete the file from the local wiki by enabling the corresponding checkbox. By clicking on the 'Import' button at the end of the page, the file is imported to Wikimedia Commons.

If you want to know more about the [[m:WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Move_files_to_Commons|FileImporter extension]] or the [[m:WMDE_Technical_Wishes|Technical Wishes Project]], follow the links. --For the Technical Wishes Team: </div>[[User:Max Klemm (WMDE)|Max Klemm (WMDE)]] 09:14, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
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== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/33|Tech News: 2020-33]] ==

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'''Recent changes'''
* [[m:WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Move_files_to_Commons|FileImporter and FileExporter]] became standard features on all Wikis during the first week of August. They help you transfer files from local wikis to Wikimedia Commons with the original file information and history intact. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140462]

'''Problems'''
* The mobile skin displays a message at the bottom of the page about who edited last. This message showed raw wikitext. This has now been fixed. Some messages in [[mw:Structured Discussions|Structured Discussions]] and [[mw:Content translation|content translation]] may still appear as raw wikitext. Developers are working on it. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259565]

'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/wmf.4|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 11. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from August 12. It will be on all wikis from August 13 ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/Roadmap|calendar]]).

'''Future changes'''
* All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on September 1. This is planned between 13:30 and 15:30 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243314][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244808]

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== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/34|Tech News: 2020-34]] ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/34|Translations]] are available.

'''Recent changes'''
* If you revert an edit using the undo link your edit is marked with an <code>undo</code> tag. This will now only happen if you don't change anything in the edit window before publishing the undo. This is to keep users from marking edits as undos when they actually do something else. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259014]
* The new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/OOUI|OOUI version]] will not work with [[:w:en:Internet Explorer 8|Internet Explorer 8]]. This means the wikis will look strange and not work well in Internet Explorer 8. This was reported in [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/17|Tech/News/2020/17]]. This is because keeping the wikis working with very old browsers creates other problems. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2020-August/093718.html]

'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/wmf.5|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 August. It will be on all wikis from 20 August ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/Roadmap|calendar]]).

'''Future changes'''
* All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on September 1. This is planned between 13:30 and 15:30 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis next week. This is a reminder. You can help by [[m:Tech/Server switch 2020|translating the announcement message]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243314][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244808]

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'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/wmf.6|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 August. It will be on all wikis from 27 August ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/Roadmap|calendar]]).

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== Important: maintenance operation on September 1st ==

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[[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server switch 2020|Read this message in another language]] • [[:m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/Server switch 2020|{{int:please-translate}}]]

The [[foundation:|Wikimedia Foundation]] will be testing its secondary data centre. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to do a planned test. This test will show if they can reliably switch from one data centre to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.

They will switch all traffic to the secondary data centre on '''Tuesday, September 1st 2020'''.

Unfortunately, because of some limitations in [[mw:Manual:What is MediaWiki?|MediaWiki]], all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.

'''You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.'''

*You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Tuesday, September 1st. The test will start at [https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20200901T14 14:00 UTC] (15:00 BST, 16:00 CEST, 10:00 EDT, 19:30 IST, 07:00 PDT, 23:00 JST, and in New Zealand at 02:00 NZST on Wednesday September 2).
*If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.

''Other effects'':

*Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
*There will be code freezes for the week of September 1st, 2020. Non-essential code deployments will not happen.

This project may be postponed if necessary. You can [[wikitech:Switch Datacenter#Schedule for 2018 switch|read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org]]. Any changes will be announced in the schedule. There will be more notifications about this. '''Please share this information with your community.'''
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== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/36|Tech News: 2020-36]] ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/36|Translations]] are available.

'''Problems'''
* This is a reminder. All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on September 1. This is planned between 14:00 and 15:00 UTC. Please check on the details on [[m:Tech/Server switch 2020|the announcement message]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243314][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244808]

'''Changes later this week'''
* There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

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== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/37|Tech News: 2020-37]] ==

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'''Changes later this week'''
* Normally pages can be moved to a title that has no existing page yet or to a page that has only one revision, which is a redirect to the page to be moved. A new user right allows editors to move pages over one-revision pages that redirect to anywhere. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239277]
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/wmf.8|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 September. It will be on all wikis from 10 September ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] All MediaWiki [[:w:en:API|API]] modules will now use <code>watchlist</code> instead of <code>watch</code>. This was inconsistent before. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T247915]

'''Future changes'''
* The [[mw:Wikimedia Apps/Team/Android|Wikipedia Android app]] team might work on patrolling tools in the future. You can let them know what tools would be useful for you or for less experienced patrollers. See the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/Android/Patrolling conversation|page on mediawiki.org]].
* [[m:Special:MyLanguage/OTRS|OTRS]] will be updated to a new version. This will probably take around two days. OTRS agents will not have access to the system during these days. Emails that come in during the update will be delivered when the update is done. The plan is to start around 08:00 UTC on 14 September. This could change. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187984]
* The Wikipedia Android app will send [[:mw:Wikimedia Apps/Team/Android/AppEditorTasks#Push Notifications for editors|push notifications]] if users want them. This could help you see for example when someone wrote on your talk page or your edit was reverted. This will need [[:w:en:Google Play Services|Google Play Services]] to work. It will also be possible to get the app without Google Play Services but push notifications will not work. Google Play Services is also used to make the app work for [[:w:en:Android KitKat|Android 4.4]] users. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Team/Android#Updates][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146032]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] Wikimedia code review could move to [[:w:en:GitLab|GitLab]]. It would be hosted on Wikimedia servers. You can take part in the [[mw:GitLab consultation|consultation]].
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ar: هذا الموقع الرئيسي لنقاش ويكي مصدر ومكان طلب المساعدة. استخدم اللغات التي تعرف، وترجم ما ترغب.
bn: এটি উইকিসংকলনের বিষয়বস্তু ও সমস্যা নিয়ে আলোচনা করার একটি কেন্দ্রীয় আলোচনার স্থান। প্রয়োজন হলে সাহায্য চাইতে পারেন। আপনি যে ভাষা জানেন তাই ব্যবহার করতে পারেন ও অনুবাদ করতে পারেন।
de: Dies ist eine zentrale Stelle, um alle Themen um Wikisource zu diskutieren, und ein Platz, um nach Hilfe zu fragen. Benutzen Sie die Sprache(n), die Sie beherrschen, und übersetzen Sie, was Ihnen gefällt.
diq: No wikiçıme heta merselan war ardış u mınaqeşe kerdış i heta cay peşti waştışiyo.Zıwanê ke şıma zanê ê zımani dı iştıraq bıkerê u açarnayış seni beno bıumısê.
el: Αυτή είναι η κεντρική τοποθεσία για να συζητήσετε θέματα για τη Βικιθήκη, αλλά και το μέρος για να ζητήσετε βοήθεια. Χρησιμοποιήστε τη γλώσσα (ή τις γλώσσες) που γνωρίζετε και μεταφράστε αυτά που θέλετε.
fa: این مکان مرکزی برای بحث در مورد مسائل درباره ویکی‌نبشته و مکانی برای درخواست کمک است. از زبان (هایی) که می‌شناسید استفاده کنید و آنچه را دوست دارید ترجمه کنید.
en: This is the central location for discussing issues with Wikisource, and the place to ask for help. Use the language(s) you know, and translate what you like.
eo: Ĉi tio estas la centra loko por diskuti problemojn pri Vikifontaro, kaj la loko por serĉi helpon. Uzu la lingvo(j)n kiu(j)n vi konas, kaj traduku kion vi volas.
es: Este es el lugar central para discutir cualquier asunto de Wikisource y es el lugar para pedir ayuda. Use los idiomas que conozca, y traduzca lo que crea necesario que otros sepan.
fr: Ceci est la page principale pour discuter de ce qui a trait à Wikisource, et pour demander de l’aide. Utilisez la (ou les) langue(s) que vous connaissez, et traduisez ce qui vous plaît.
ga: Seo an lárnionad chun téamaí a bhaineann le Vicífhoinse a phlé, agus an áit inar féidir leat cabhair a iarraidh. Bain usáid as teanga ar bith dá bhfuil agat agus aistrigh cibé rud is mian leat.
gbm: इ च मझळु अड्डा विकीसोतु दगड़ मुद्दा बारा म छुंई लगाणु खुणी, अर ठाणु मदद मंगण खुणी. इस्तेमाल कारा उ भाखा ज्व तुमु बिंगुदौ, अर बदलाखरा जू च पसंद​।
he: זה הדף המיועד לדיונים העוסקים בוויקיטקסט, והמקום לפנות לעזרה. כתבו בשפות שתכירו, ותרגמו מה שתרצו.
hy: Սա Վիքիդարանի հետ կապված հարցերի քննարկման կենտրոնական վայրն է, որտեղ դուք կարող եք նաև դիմել հարցերով։ Օգտագործեք ձեր իմացած լեզուն(երը) և թարգմանե՛ք ի՜նչ կամենում եք։
io: Ita esas la centrala loko por diskutar problemi pri Wikifonto, e la loko por serchar helpo. Uzez la linguo/i quan vu parolas, e tradukar quon/in vu volas.
it: Questo è il luogo principale dove discutere di Wikisource, e il posto dove chiedere aiuto.Scrivi nella lingua che vuoi, puoi anche tradurre quello che vuoi.
ja: ここはプロジェクトについて議論したり、質問がある時に尋ねたりするための場所です。お望みの言語を使って書き込んで下さい。他の人の書き込みを翻訳して下さる方も歓迎です。
ko: 이곳은 위키문헌과 관련한 논의를 하는 주된 곳이자 도움을 구할 수 있는 곳입니다. 구사할 수 있는 언어를 사용하여 다른 내용을 마음껏 번역해 주시길 바랍니다.
my: ဤနေရာသည် ဝီကီရင်းမြစ်နှင့် ပတ်သက်သော ကိစ္စအဝဝအား ဆွေးနွေးရန်နှင့် အကူအညီများအတွက် မေးမြန်းရန် နေရာဖြစ်သည်။ သင်ကျွမ်းကျင်သော ဘာသာစကားကို အသုံးပြုနိုင်ပြီး သင်အလိုရှိရာကို ဘာသာပြန်နိုင်သည်။
nl: Dit is de centrale plek om elk onderwerp in Wikisource te bediscussiëren en de plaats om hulp te vragen. Gebruik de taal die je kent en vertaal wat en wanneer je wilt.
nn: Dette er den sentrale staden å diskutere saker som gjeld Wikisource, og staden for å be om hjelp. Bruk dei språka du kan, og set om det du vil.
pt: Esta é a página principal para discutir tudo o que se relaciona com o Wikisource e também o lugar para procurar ajuda. Faça uso da(s) língua(s) que conhece, e traduza os textos que quiser.
ru: Это центральное место для обсуждений, связанных с Викитекой в целом, а также место, где можно спросить о помощи. Используйте язык, который вы знаете и переводите что и когда вам нравится.
sl: To je osrednje mesto za razpravo o zadevah Wikivira in kraj, kjer lahko zaprosite za pomoč. Uporabljajte jezik(e), ki ga (jih) poznate, in prevedite, kar vam je všeč.
su: Ieu mangrupa loka pikeun nyawalakeun hal-hal ngeunaan Wikisource, sarta tempat pikeun ménta pitulung. Pigunakeun basa nu ku anjeun dipikawanoh, tarjamahkeun nu dipikaresep.
sv: Detta är den huvudsakliga platsen där alla typer av frågor rörande Wikisource diskuteras och där nya frågor kan ställas. Använd de språk som du kan och översätt när och vad du vill av andra.
syl: ꠁꠈꠣꠘ ꠃꠁꠇꠤꠒꠣꠇꠞ ꠛꠤꠡꠄꠀꠡꠄ ꠀꠞ ꠖꠄꠖꠞꠛꠣꠞ ꠟꠂꠀ ꠝꠣꠔꠣꠞ ꠄꠉꠥ ꠝꠥꠟ ꠎꠦꠉꠣ ⁕ ꠁꠘꠅ ꠖꠄ ꠖꠞꠇꠣꠞꠦ ꠡꠣꠄ ꠡꠣꠁꠎ꠆ꠎꠅ ꠌꠣꠁꠔꠣ ꠙꠣꠞꠂꠘ ⁕ ꠀꠙꠘꠦ ꠎꠦ ꠜꠣꠡꠣ ꠎꠣꠘꠂꠘ ꠅꠐꠣꠃ ꠛꠦꠛꠀꠞ ꠇꠞ꠆ꠔꠣ ꠙꠣꠞꠂꠘ ꠀꠞ ꠅꠘꠥꠛꠣꠖ ꠇꠞ꠆ꠔꠣ ꠙꠣꠞꠂꠘ ⁕
th: ที่แห่งนี้เป็นศูนย์กลางสำหรับการพูดคุยปัญหาต่าง ๆ เกี่ยวกับวิกิซอร์ซ และเป็นที่สำหรับขอความช่วยเหลือ คุณสามารถใช้ภาษาที่รู้จักและแปลสิ่งที่คุณต้องการ
tl: Ito ang sentrong lokasyon para pag-usupan ang mga isyu kasama ng Wikisource, at ang lugar upang humingi ng tulong. Gamitin ang (mga) wika na alam mo, at isalin ang anong gusto mo.
vi: Đây là trung tâm để thảo luận các vấn đề liên quan đến Wikisource. Bạn sử dụng các ngôn ngữ bạn biết, và dịch những gì bạn thích.
vo: Atos binon top cifik, kö mögos ad bespikön valikosi dö Vükifonät, e kö kanoy i begön yufi. Gebolös pükis, kelis sevol, e tradutolös utosi, kelosi vilol.
yue: 呢度係主要討論維基文庫相關問題嘅版面。你可以用你識得嘅語言留言，亦都可以幫手翻譯其他人嘅留言。
zh-hant: 這裡是討論與維基文庫有關話題和尋求幫助的頁面。使用您所了解的語言留言。您也可以在任何時候把他人的留言翻譯成您熟悉的語言。
zh-hans: 这里是讨论与维基文库有关话题和寻求帮助的页面。使用您所了解的语言留言。您也可以在任何时候把他人的留言翻译成您熟悉的语言。
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Tech News: 2020-38

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • The Wikipedia apps briefly showed pages without CSS last week. This meant they looked wrong. It was quickly fixed but cached pages without CSS were shown for a few hours. [1][2]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 September. It will be on all wikis from 17 September (calendar).

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16:19, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-39

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • There is a new tag for reverted edits. For example you can see it in the recent changes feed or in the article history. It is added to edits when they have been undone, rollbacked or manually reverted to an older version of the page. [3][4]

Changes later this week

  • The number of times you can do something in a period of time on wiki is limited. This could be the number of edits per minute or the number of users you email in a day. Some users are not affected by all limits because of their user rights. They could soon see the limit even if it does not affect them. [5]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 September. It will be on all wikis from 24 September (calendar).

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21:28, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-40

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Admins can now see links to diffs of deleted revisions on Special:AbuseLog. This uses the interface of Special:Undelete. [6]
  • Editors are automatically added to some user groups. For example editors are added to autoconfirmed users when they have edited enough times and long enough. Abuse filters can hinder users from automatically getting user rights for a period of time. They can also remove rights user have. Wikis can now ask to change how long this period of time is for their wiki in Phabricator. It is currently five days. [7]

Problems

  • Last year some abuse filters stopped working because of a new change. If they tried to use variables that were unavailable for that action they would fail. This has now been fixed. [8]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 29 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 30 September. It will be on all wikis from 1 October (calendar).

Future changes

  • You can't see the language links to other language versions from the talk page or history page. They are also not shown when you edit an article. This could change. It is not decided if for example the history page should link to another history page or to the article. You can take part in the discussion in Phabricator.
  • The link colours could change. This is to make the difference between links and other text more clear. You can read more in Phabricator.
  • In your preferences you can choose to get different notifications on the web or by email. You will see Apps as one of the alternatives later this week. This is because the Android and iOS Wikipedia apps will use push notifications for those who want them. You can see the preferences on the test wiki. The goal is to have push notifications on Android in October and on iOS in early 2021. [9]
  • You can soon put pages on your watchlist for a limited time. This could be useful if you want to watch something for a shorter time but don't want it on your watchlist forever. It now works on mediawiki.org and will come to more wikis later. You can read more and see when it will come to other wikis.
  • You can see what Wikimedians think are the best new technical tools this year. You can also nominate them.

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21:24, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Wiki of functions naming contest

Please help translate to your language.

Hello. Please help pick a name for the new Wikimedia wiki project. This project will be a wiki where the community can work together on a library of functions. The community can create new functions, read about them, discuss them, and share them. Some of these functions will be used to help create language-independent Wikipedia articles that can be displayed in any language, as part of the Abstract Wikipedia project. But functions will also be usable in many other situations.

There will be two rounds of voting, each followed by legal review of candidates, with voting beginning on 29 September and 27 October. Our goal is to have a final project name selected on 8 December. If you would like to participate, then please learn more and vote now at meta-wiki. Thank you! --Quiddity (WMF)

21:13, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-41

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • There is a new tool where you can see which home wiki users have in discussions on Meta. This can help show which communities are not part of the discussion on wikis where we make decisions that affect many other wikis.
  • You can now thank users for file uploads or for changing the language of a page. [10]

Problems

  • There were many errors with the new MediaWiki version last week. The new version was rolled back. Updates that should have happened last week are late. [11]
  • Everyone was logged out. This was because a user reported being logged in to someone else's account. The problem should be fixed now. [12]
  • Advanced item Many pages have JavaScript errors. You can read more and now see a list of user scripts with errors.

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 6 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 7 October. It will be on all wikis from 8 October (calendar).
  • Letters immediately after a link are shown as part of the link. For example the entire word in [[Child]]ren is linked. On Arabic wikis this works at both the start and end of a word. Previously on Arabic wikis numbers and other non-letter Unicode characters were shown as part of the link at the start of a word but not at the end. Now only Latin and Arabic letters will extend links on Arabic wikis. [13]

Future changes

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16:25, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Call for feedback about Wikimedia Foundation Bylaws changes and Board candidate rubric

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Hello. Apologies if you are not reading this message in your native language. Please help translate to your language.

Today the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees starts two calls for feedback. One is about changes to the Bylaws mainly to increase the Board size from 10 to 16 members. The other one is about a trustee candidate rubric to introduce new, more effective ways to evaluate new Board candidates. The Board welcomes your comments through 26 October. For more details, check the full announcement.

Thank you! Qgil-WMF (talk) 17:10, 7 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Tech News: 2020-42

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • Because of the problems with the MediaWiki version two weeks ago last week's updates are also late. [15][16][17]

Changes later this week

  • Live previews didn't show the templates used in the preview if you just edited a section. This has now been fixed. You can also test CSS and JavaScript pages even if you have the live preview enabled. Previously this didn't work well. [18][19]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 13 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 14 October. It will be on all wikis from 15 October (calendar).

Future changes

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15:24, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Please add language template to main page template

Latest comment: 3 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hello. I discovered that the letters on the page 'Template:TopTenCircle' did not have language codes. So I tried to add the 'Lang template' ({{Lang}}) to that template page, but I couldn't do it because the page was protected. So I want someone to add the template to 'Template:TopTenCircle' (For example: Special:Diff/850216 <User:TKsdik8900/sandbox 04:07, 18 October 2020‎>). In summary, I want to see the page 'Template:TopTenCircle' content replaced by Special:Diff/850216. I also used machine translation, so I'm sorry if there is any confusion in this text. Thank you. --TKsdik8900 (talk) 04:43, 18 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

ar and he were a huge pain but otherwise done. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:19, 18 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Tech News: 2020-43

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 20 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 21 October. It will be on all wikis from 22 October (calendar).

Future changes

  • You will be able to read but not to edit the wikis for up to an hour on 27 October around 14:00 (UTC). It will probably be shorter than an hour. [21]
  • Advanced item In the AbuseFilter extension, the rmspecials() function will be updated soon so that it does not remove the "space" character. Wikis are advised to wrap all the uses of rmspecials() with rmwhitespace() wherever necessary to keep filters' behavior unchanged. You can use the search function on Special:AbuseFilter to locate its usage. [22]
  • Some gadgets and user-scripts use the HTML div with the ID #jump-to-nav. This div will be removed soon. Maintainers should replace these uses with either #siteSub or #mw-content-text. A list of affected scripts is at the top of phab:T265373.

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16:31, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Important: maintenance operation on October 27

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

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The Wikimedia Foundation tests the switch between its first and secondary data centers. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to do a planned test. This test will show if they can reliably switch from one data centre to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.

They will switch all traffic back to the primary data center on Tuesday, October 27 2020.

Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.

You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.

  • You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Tuesday, October 27. The test will start at 14:00 UTC (14:00 WET, 15:00 CET, 10:00 EDT, 19:30 IST, 07:00 PDT, 23:00 JST, and in New Zealand at 03:00 NZDT on Wednesday October 28).
  • If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.

Other effects:

  • Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
  • There will be code freezes for the week of October 26, 2020. Non-essential code deployments will not happen.
This project may be postponed if necessary. You can read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org. Any changes will be announced in the schedule. There will be more notifications about this. A banner will be displayed on all wikis 30 minutes before this operation happens. Please share this information with your community.

-- Trizek (WMF) (talk) 17:11, 21 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

  • You will be able to read but not to edit the wikis for up to an hour on October 27 around 14:00 (UTC). It will probably be shorter than an hour. [23]
  • Last week, links to "diffs" from mobile watchlists and recentchanges were linking to page-revisions instead of diffs. This has now been fixed. [24]

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

  • Since the introduction of the interface administrators user group in 2018, administrators couldn’t view the deleted history of CSS/JS pages. Now they can. [25]
  • There was a problem with the Change Tags. The software would apply the "Reverted" tag to any page actions such as page-protection changes if they came directly after a reverted edit. This has now been fixed for new edits. [26]
  • The Reply tool will be offered as an opt-in Beta Feature on most Wikipedias in November. Another announcement will be made once the date is finalized. [27]

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17:38, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Undeletion of an old logo image

Latest comment: 3 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

File:Stw-wslogo2.png was uploaded in 2006, apparently as part of a contest, and Yann (talk • contribs) deleted it afterwards. Apparently someone else remixed it and made File:Contactus-wmcolors.png, which has been somewhat widely used since then. The deleted file would arguably be a part of the other file's history, and perhaps of the history of the project, that we would like to maintain. Administrators: can you please undelete it? Even better, can you import it to Commons with its file history?

Here are some more details. Judging by an edit summary given by Eloquence (talk • contribs), it looks like the file is currently used as part of File:Contactus-wmcolors.png (a file with 100+ usages) - it would be nice if the original file with its history remains available. It seems that the creator was Stw (talk • contribs) and the work was made public domain. [28] Whym (talk) 08:34, 31 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Done. Good eye. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:51, 31 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • You can no longer read Wikimedia wikis if your browser uses very old TLS. This is because it is a security problem for everyone. It could lead to downgrade attacks. Since October 29, 2020, users who use old TLS versions will not be able to connect to Wikimedia projects. A list of browser recommendations is available. All modern operating systems and browsers are always able to reach Wikimedia projects. [29]
  • Advanced item There is a new automatic tracking category available: Pages with non-numeric formatnum arguments. It collects pages which use the {{formatnum}} parser function with invalid (non-numeric) input, e.g. {{formatnum:TECHNEWS}}. Note that {{formatnum:123,456}} is also invalid input: as described in the documentation, the argument should be unformatted so that it can be reliably and correctly localised. The tracking category will help identify problematic usage and double-formatting. The new tracking category's name can be translated at translatewiki. [30]

Changes later this week

  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from November 3. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from November 4. It will be on all wikis from November 5 (calendar).
  • Administrators and stewards will be able to use a special page (Special:CreateLocalAccount) to force local account creation for a global account. This is useful when account creation is blocked for that user (by a block or a filter). [31]
  • The Reply tool will be offered as an opt-in Beta Feature on most Wikipedias on November 4. This change excludes the English, Russian, and German-language Wikipedias, plus a few smaller Wikipedias with special circumstances. You can read the help page and the troubleshooting guide for more information. [32]

Future changes

  • A discussion has been restarted about using a Unicode minus sign (− U+2212) in the output of {{formatnum}} when it is given a negative argument. [33]
  • In the future IP addresses of unregistered users will not be shown for everyone. They will get an alias instead. There will be a new user right or an opt-in function for more vandal fighters to see the IPs of unregistered users. There would be some criteria for who gets the user right or opt-in. There will also be other new tools to help handle vandalism. This is early in the process and the developers are still collecting information from the communities before they suggest solutions.

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16:10, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Wiki of functions naming contest - Round 2

Hello. Reminder: Please help to choose the name for the new Wikimedia wiki project - the library of functions. The finalist vote starts today. The finalists for the name are: Wikicode, Wikicodex, Wikifunctions, Wikifusion, Wikilambda, Wikimedia Functions. If you would like to participate, then please learn more and vote now at Meta-wiki. Thank you! --Quiddity (WMF)

22:11, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Request for an interface admin to edit MediaWiki:OCR.js

Latest comment: 3 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

(Follow-up of December 2019 topic)

Hi!

Since OCR bug has evolved positively thanks to Xover, can an interface admin edit related gadget in order to allow using new OCR when it works (and still fallback to old one in other cases), please? Needed changes are on my sandbox. --Pols12 (talk) 23:50, 8 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Pols12: If your sandbox can just include only the exact text of the gadget and nothing else, then I will port it over. Please ping me when you've done this. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:44, 9 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
Actually it does, Koavf. 🙂 --Pols12 (talk) 03:22, 9 November 2020 (UTC)Reply
Done —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:42, 9 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Tech News: 2020-46

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week

  • There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Future changes

  • You can see reference previews. This shows a preview of the footnote when you hover over it. This has been a beta feature. It will move out of beta and be enabled by default. There will be an option not to use it. The developers are looking for small or medium-sized wikis to be the first ones. You can let them know if your wiki is interested. [34]
  • From November 16 the categories will not be sorted in order for a short time. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the internationalisation library. They will use a script to fix the existing categories. This can take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can read more. [35][36]

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15:50, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Update to ICU Unicode library

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Starting on November 16, we will migrate the servers running the MediaWiki application servers to a new release of the ICU Unicode library (w:International Components for Unicode) (from version 57 to 63).

This unblocks some future work on upgrading the servers to a new Operating System release and will also allow the use of improved internationalisation in the future (as wikis will then be able to use features introduced by the new ICU release such as new collation definitions, and allows us to use a more recent version of Unicode in MediaWiki).

This migration will cause some unavoidable temporary user-visible impact: The sorting of some category pages will be distorted – all pages which have been updated with the new software version will use the new sorting while untouched pages still use the old sorting. As such, we need to run a maintenance script to update the sorting for old entries.

The distortions may last from a few hours (on medium-sized wikis), up to a day (on the largest wikis), and a few days on English Wikipedia. The start-time will depend upon when the migration script reaches each wiki.

This affects 149 wikis (including eight out of the ten biggest Wikipedias). The detailed list and the task for the technical implementation is at T264991.

Thank you.

Trizek (WMF) 14:53, 16 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Tech News: 2020-47

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

  • Listings on category pages are sorted on each wiki for that language using a library. For a brief period on 16 November, changes to categories will not be sorted correctly for most languages. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the library. They will then use a script to fix the existing categories. This will take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can read more. [37][38]

Changes later this week

  • If you merged two pages in a namespace where pages can't redirect this used to break the merge history. This will now be fixed. [39]
  • Recurrent item The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 November. It will be on all wikis from 19 November (calendar).

Future changes

  • The Community Wishlist Survey is now open for proposals. The survey decides what the Community Tech team will work on. You can post proposals from 16 to 30 November. You can vote on proposals from 8 December to 21 December.

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15:37, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Community Wishlist Survey 2021

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

The 2021 Community Wishlist Survey is now open! This survey is the process where communities decide what the Community Tech team should work on over the next year. We encourage everyone to submit proposals until the deadline on 30 November, or comment on other proposals to help make them better. The communities will vote on the proposals between 8 December and 21 December.

The Community Tech team is focused on tools for experienced Wikimedia editors. You can write proposals in any language, and we will translate them for you. Thank you, and we look forward to seeing your proposals!

SGrabarczuk (WMF) 05:52, 20 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

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