Extension talk:CategoryTree/LQT Archive 1

It would be nice to add an option to sort articles by first letter in article name, or to bypass sorting by surname in articles about people. --Sasa Stefanovic 15:49, 1 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

"sorting by surname" is actually sorting by the sort key that is explicitely provided when the page is placed in the category. That's what category listings are sorted by. I'll think about adding sort options for the <category> tag and the special page - the view on the category pages will probably stay as it is. -- Duesentrieb 21:35, 1 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Yes, you know what i mean. And, when will be that option included ? --Sasa Stefanovic 21:54, 3 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Some time. Including the option isn't hard, but getting it right with caching is. -- Duesentrieb 23:27, 3 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Hi, Duesentrieb. Kooma translated the new MediaWiki messages in Finnish Wikipedia and I made a php file from them. Should I paste this file to User:Duesentrieb/CategoryTree-fi, so that translations would be included into MediaWiki? --Hartz 13:49, 1 September 2006 (UTC) copied from my talk page -- 17:59, 1 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Cool! Hm, the language files under User:Duesentrieb/CategoryTree-xx are for the external tool, that's a bit different... please look at the i18n files in the repository and make a patch/file from that. -- Duesentrieb 17:58, 1 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

First, congratulations for your integration into MediaWiki of CategoryTree, it's very useful and funny :-) ! In the french Village Pump, somebody has proposed to place an option in the preferences to choose between the alphabetical list and the tree. Else I request a new message to differentiate the message nothing found when no subcategory is founded or no parent category is founded, so we could write no parent category founded and no subcategory founded. I ask this here but perhaps it would be in a better place on bugzilla. Best Regards and Congratulations :) ~ Seb35 16:52, 1 September 2006 (UTC) copied from my talk page -- 17:59, 1 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

a new user option would be nice i guess, but afaik there's no clean way for extensions to put something into on preferences page. Maybe the selection could just "stick" once a user has made it? I'll think of something, not sure what yet.

An extra message for the parent categories also needs at least a third message for "no subcategory or page", in case pages are included in the tree. On the other hand, parent categories are shown only on the special page - which is kind of redundant anyway. Maybe i'll turn it off in the future.

I'll look into getting CategoryTree set up as a "product" in Bugzilla. -- Duesentrieb 18:09, 1 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your quick answer. For the option (we haven't see that it use cookies), someones purposed that because they don't like the change, the main reason is that it make a big column for some category [1] (as your next note says), and a second small reason is that it don't work on their config (JavaScript?). Else fr:Utilisateur:Lgd who work in accessibility for Wikipedia says interesting things about this, I asked him to tell here his point of view. ~ Seb35 07:49, 2 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

I have written a "unified" category view which looks just like the traditional three column display but lets you expand each subcategory as a tree. It's enabled here on meta now, see Category:MediaWiki for example. I guess that will become the preferred mode in the future. -- Duesentrieb 12:45, 2 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

• Note to self: make a "unified" view: "traditional" three column view, but with "expandable" subcategory entries. -- Duesentrieb 21:36, 1 September 2006 (UTC)Reply
• "no subcategories" vs. "no pages" vs. "nothing"
• Make top level subcats bold?
• Hide [+] toggels if no JS?
• use global nojs switch instead of notree?
• add an attribute to categories without children, when loaded.
• Make "root only" mode for tag.

(short reminders for myself -- Duesentrieb 11:55, 4 September 2006 (UTC))Reply

Hi. Wir hatten ja heute schonmal im Chat über die +-Zeichen vor Kategoriebäumen gesprochen und die Möglichkeit, diese auszublenden. Ich hab mir das ganze jetzt mal im de:Lynx (Browser) angeschaut und muss feststellen, daß das da doch recht unschön und verwirrend ist, wenn ein Link angezeigt wird, der aber generisch eine Fehlermeldung auswirft: de:Bild:Cattree in lynx.jpg. Ich grüble schon die ganze Zeit, wie man es vielleicht doch verstecken kann. --Gnu1742 19:31, 2. Sep 2006 (CEST) Ich musste mit schmunzeln feststellen, daß Lynx im Fehlerfall 'Obacht' schreit;-))

Can this extension be used in the sidebar? There's similar work going on with the DPL2 extension here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:DynamicPageList2#Add_Format_Option_for_display_in_sidebar

20:49, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

The external tool (see User:Duesentrieb/CategoryTree) can. Maybe I'll add this to the MediaWiki extension - but sadly, different browsers expect slightly different things in the sidebar (especially ragarding the target-attribute of links). This makes it a bit tricky with caching and all that. -- Duesentrieb 21:53, 3 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

See Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Show as a tree / Show as a list in Catgegories. In particular, the comment here: "One potential problem is that people who click on the "+" sign and get the "nothing found" result, might think that is the end of the road: no articles there. Of course, it really means that there are just no subcategories. But will new users realise they need to click on the category link to see the articles inside the category?", and the comment by DuncanHill asking for the ability to chose which display he can use. Some further comments, but not much discussion yet, at Wikipedia:Wikipedia talk:Categorization#Show as a tree / Show as a list. It would be nice if someone from meta could come over to the en-Wikipedia, as not everyone there will be aware of the discussions at Meta. Thanks. - Carcharoth 11:25, 3 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Update: the "nothing found" label has now changed to "no subcategories" (on en-Wikipedia at least). Thanks for this. On Meta the label still says "nothing found". Haven't checked the other WikiMedia projects. Carcharoth 20:52, 3 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Any idea what is wrong when I get this error-message?

Fatal error: Undefined class name 'xml' in ../wiki/extensions/CategoryTree/CategoryTreeFunctions.php on line 54

Which wiki? your own? Hm, what version of MediaWiki are you using? CategoryTree is currently for 1.8alpha only. I don't think it'll run with 1.7, as I had to change some bits in the code code to make it work. -- Duesentrieb 17:29, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply