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What's the current thinking on onthisday.com ? It seems obvious to me that it's a mirror site, but it's been allowed as an external link on many pages. Deb (talk) 16:04, 5 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just replied to your query on RSN. Yeah, totally a mirror site. Yes, its use is rampant. It's amazing how many folks will argue that onthisday or similar pages published by AP are reliable sources. It's just another sign of the decline of this project. Toddst1 (talk) 05:16, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the main sign of "decline of this project" are over the top strict admins, who do not allow any futher improvements of it by undo and accusations of other users in edit war, instead of helping and finding compromises.

@Toddst1 Do you happen to know anyone like that by a chance? Gigman (talk) 13:56, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We don't compromise on the reliability of sources. You just proved my point. BTW, I'm not an admin. Go away now. Toddst1 (talk) 23:25, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just happened to randomly stumble upon this page. I have no idea who any of you in this conversation are, nor what any relevant background may be, but I just wanted to say that saying something like "Go away now" is so extremely beyond the level of civility that should be expected by any serious wikipedia editor. Perhaps you meant it with a sense of humor, as tone can be hard to read and often gets lost in writing, especially on the internet, but unless I'm drastically misinterpreting something, may I please ask that you rethink how you speak to others? How would you feel if spoken to that way? Please read Wikipedia:Civility. Vontheri (talk) 06:49, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, previously I've noticed you reverting my edits and threatning me with blocking... However, you did not provided any further suggestions or actions. You see, I've tried to avoid citating onthisday.com, but after seeing numerous usage of it on other articles, including DOYs, I've started to use it too, and weren't reverted by anyone untill a few days ago. I want a clarification, why onthisday.com is considered as unreliable source, meanwhile it's not in the list of such, and why is there so much of citation of it? Also, regarding that same 4th of February page, why Niagara falls ice bridge disaster isn't allowed to be in the list, while it is mentioned on Niagara Falls page? Once again, I saw so much similiar cases, (when some event is too small to have it's own article, but still meantioned in other)

But my real question is, if there are rules about that not being allowed, why there are so much violations of it in, and nobody's fixing? And why only recent edits get reverted without previous (I literally reffered to onthisday.com on the same page more than twice, but you haven't removed those edits)

Anyway, while I'm awaiting for you response, I want to say, that from now on, thanks to you and other of "your type", since I only get revertions and warnings for trying to do something, I will never ever make any further contributions on Wikipedia, except undo the ones I see breaking the rules. Just like @Kiwipete does, if that's the way you guys do things around here. But unlike you, I will undo all incorrect edits, not only the recent ones, and we will see what the articles will become. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glebushko0703 (talk • contribs) 14:26, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:SOFIXIT. Toddst1 (talk) 23:14, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi @Toddst1, I wanted to follow up on your message on my talk page. As I, now, understand it, my Instagram Reel source to the claim that Tessa Violet was born on March 20,1990 violated the no original research doctrine, due to infering the year via the date of publication minus the age stated in the video. After doing some more research the topic, I have discovered that on Tessa Violet's genius profile, which has been verified as her, states that she was born on March 20,1990. Would this count as a reliable source on this matter or do I need to continue to research for a more reliable source?

-@Madalyn the Rose Madalyn the Rose (talk) 16:42, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seems reliable enough to me. See WP:DOB. Toddst1 (talk) 18:15, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Madalyn the Rose:When I looked at it, I thought it was a social media page. Apparently it's somewhere between that and WP:USERG which is not ok. Toddst1 (talk) 04:26, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Check this out! Deb (talk) 11:04, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. Editor doesn't want to hear anything [1]. Toddst1 (talk) 23:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I certainly do not want to hear anything from editors who pretend that me pasting info in a (largely unreferenced) list from an article where I already referenced that exact info (and every single other fact), as much as they may dislike it, is not at all the same as "adding unreferenced info". Especially if they go on suggesting that I should be intimidated off wikipedia or blocked for not serving their commands. I hope this clarifies it. Feel free to erase this comment, as I did with your comment, but hear this: never bother me on my talk page again. Dahn (talk) 23:23, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ANI is <- that way.[2] Toddst1 (talk) 23:28, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And you thought you had a block log! Deb (talk) 17:10, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Deb, I'm not sure what full scope of the malfunction is there, but WP:SOMTP captures some of it. Toddst1 (talk) 23:54, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Too right. WP:POINT also applies, except he thinks that adding a cn template is going to annoy us. (LOL) Deb (talk) 07:18, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Carol Leonning bio needs updating, very old info often used and incorrect -- for example she has won four Pulitzer Prize Awards -- see her Washington Post Bio for more accurate information: https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/carol-d-leonnig/ I am not able to update myself because I am her sister-in-law and have a conflict and I am not very skilled at wiki editing, but want to help because it the information on it is so incorrect. She is often called upon to do TV and radio interviews and they use this information and make incorrect introductions of her. Also, the photo on this site is so old; it would be better to use the official photojournalist photo from her Washington Post (online). Thank you if you are able to help make this site more accurate. MHKelley (talk) 16:34, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @MHKelley: you have a very talented and accomplished sister-in-law. And thanks for declaring your relationship and being aware of our WP:COI policies. BTW,she has only 2 "n"s in her last name: Carol Leonnig.

I'm not seeing anywhere that the Post's photo of Carol is in the public domain, so we can't use it. However, if you have a photo you took that you'd like to make available for use, we could use that.

While I was a primary contributor to her bio, that was done during a time when I had much more time available for wiki editing. I'm far, far less active these days. However, if I find myself with some time to dig in to it, I'll see what I can do.

I see you've left a note on the article's talkpage which is a great start. If you wanted to suggest any specific edits on that page, that would be a great idea. Toddst1 (talk) 19:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I have followed up with Carol to ask about a photo that she has permission to share or if the Washington Post photo is in the public domain. (Funny that I got her last name wrong, she has been my sister-in-law for more than 20 years and named one of her daughters after me so I should get it right!) I will try to leave specific edit ideas on the article's talkpage. I wasn't sure if that was appropriate but since you suggested it then it must be OK -- so I will take time to do that. Thank you so much for your help, I sincerely appreciate it. I hope to learn more and become better at Wiki editing. I used to be a journalist myself. I worked mostly in television news so I'm not the strongest when it comes to print writing/editing. I very much appreciate Wikipedia and its commitment to accuracy. Thank you for your contributions. MHKelley (talk) 15:52, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@MHKelley: That's great and leaving polite suggestions with a disclaimer that you are related is the way to handle stuff like this. A lot of folks try to use wikipedia as a vehicle to puff their image or spin perception, so a lot of editors can be sensitive, but as long as the material you suggest follows WP:NPOV we should be fine. Feel free to email me directly by clicking the link in the column to the left if you want specific help or if folks aren't receptive on the talk page. I'll see what I can do. Cheers! Toddst1 (talk) 18:46, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]