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Nick Floyd

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Nominating based on lack of notability. Only references are with brief text in minor and local sports news coverage, biography external link is dead. User:WoodElf 16:59, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Esmaeil Gholizadeh

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Reviewed during NPP. No indication of wp:notability under GNG or SNG (which says that these must meet GNG) Of the sources, 2 are just database listings and the other is about a game where he is mentioned. North8000 (talk) 20:42, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lisa-Anne Smith

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and WP:NOLY. Only primary sources provided. LibStar (talk) 13:09, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Helmut Michel

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Doesn't seem to have received significant coverage. All I could find on this player was a 1961 Chicago Tribune newspaper article that he was playing in goal for an amateur team participating in the National Amateur Cup, which is barely a passing mention. Another site suggests a date of birth for this player, but that's all I could find, other than a Czech namesake who ran for political office in 1989. C 679 13:31, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of United States men's international soccer players as possible search term. Giant Snowman 17:24, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mostafa Makhlouf

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No indication the subject meets the general notability guideline. Only source indicates he is the fifth-choice goalkeeper for his club and he has not played at senior level. C 679 11:48, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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He was in the first team in the past 2 years

And entered the African list for Al Ahly this year so he must have a Wikipedia page Mohamedmokhtar22 (talk) 11:53, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or Draft According to soccerway he hasn't played any games. So those trophies? Are they really earned? If the article was improved with better sourcing I might send to draft, in it's current state I would delete. Also @ Mohamedmokhtar22 Why do you have two accounts? Govvy (talk) 13:19, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Not enough coverage for this individual. All I can find [1], a few brief words about him. Oaktree b (talk) 16:54, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
First, I have only One account but I changed the username.

Second, In African Championships if he entered the saquad in any match the whole championship it will be earnd for him Mohamedmokhtar22 (talk) 17:04, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:24, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.yallakora.com/egyptian-league/2795/news/447474/%D8%AA%D8%B1%D8%AA%D9%8A%D8%A8%D9%87-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AE%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B3-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%87%D9%84%D9%8A-%D9%85-%D9%86-%D9%87%D9%88-%D9%85%D8%AE%D9%84%D9%88%D9%81-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B0%D9%8A-%D8%B8%D9%87%D8%B1-%D8%A8%D8%B3%D8%A8%D8%A8-%D9%81%D9%8A%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%B3-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B3-

This link from Yallakora the famous site about Mostafa Makhlouf Mohamedmokhtar22 (talk) 22:08, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zahir Vasquez

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I am unable to find enough coverage of this American soccer player to meet WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 20:53, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. I didn't find any articles about him in RS, only statistics and news on the website of the club for which he plays. Tau Corvi (talk) 14:55, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:23, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Liška

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Redirect to Slovakia at the 2004 Summer Olympics as ATD because I could not find any in-depth coverage of this athlete to meet WP:GNG.

This AfD might be exactly the same issue as with Peter Kondrát I nominated back in January under my old username (CuteDolphin712). Since Martin Liška was born in Brno, Czech Republic, but represents Slovakia, I don't know which language of source is primary.

The only decent site I found in Slovak language is SME but it looks nowhere near significant.
Oddly enough, Czech media IDNES (2016, 2018, 2022) and Czech Television have articles of a horseback rider of the same name. However, the first source by IDNES tells said jockey turned 39 thus clearly not the same men as this cyclist. Without evidence of cyclist Liška being a horse jockey in his hometown, this case fails WP:V.

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Ravindra Lakmal

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Although subject may be covered by WP:NCRICKET (Additionally, cricketers who have played at the highest domestic level [...] may have sufficient coverage about them to justify an article, but it should not be assumed to exist without further proof), with a single appearance for a club side more than 20 years ago, there is no indication the subject has received significant coverage to pass the general notability guideline. C 679 10:19, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I am also nominating the following related page for the same reason:

Comment - either one article is the problem or thousands. And if we isolate individual articles - in both English and non-English speaking countries - this does nothing to solve the problem we've landed ourselves in. Bobo . 17:30, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I haven't found any WP:SIGCOV confirmation. Tau Corvi (talk) 15:12, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kris McLaren

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Does not meet WP:SPORTSCRIT, Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. C 679 07:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: no significant achievements either in a very short career. ww2censor (talk) 09:22, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Guerrero (lineman)

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Does not meet WP:SPORTSCRIT, Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. - Although subject may meet WP:NGRIDIRON as stated in the last AfD (2011), this does not establish sufficient notability. C 679 06:22, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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There is a good deal of SIGCOV. e.g., [2], feature pt 1/ feature pt 2. Cbl62 (talk) 16:41, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I added an initial piece of WP:SIGCOV. Cbl62 (talk) 19:21, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The Idaho Statesman feature now in the article is certainly WP:SIGCOV, combined with sources such as [[3]] I'd say there is enough to meet the WP:GNG. Let'srun (talk) 13:56, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Let'srun: Did you mean to mention a second source, other than The Idaho Statesman? C 679 11:52, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I meant to add [[4]] in addition to the other Idaho Statesman source. Let'srun (talk) 14:19, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keiichi Misawa

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Does not meet WP:SPORTSCRIT, Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. Previously deleted by PROD. C 679 03:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment A "small" HTML tag was left unclosed. This has been fixed. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 04:51, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:24, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:05, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Not enough accomplishments or sources for an encyclopedic article. Geschichte (talk) 07:57, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eric Iloski

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I am unable to find enough independent coverage of this American soccer player to meet WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 02:04, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:25, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. He hasn't played at the highest level and doesn't pass WP:SIGCOV. Tau Corvi (talk) 15:59, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Driver

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. 2 sources provided are primary. Found nothing searching ["Chris Driver" mauritius -wikipedia] LibStar (talk) 01:18, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 18:24, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I haven't found RS that could confirm his notability. Tau Corvi (talk) 16:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Lejsek

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Redirect to Czech Republic at the 2022 Winter Olympics#Luge as I could not find enough in-depth coverage of this athlete to meet WP:GNG. I've checked corresponding Wikipedia article in other languages, especially the Czech one that might help copy over English article, but none of them provide significant coverage on him. One-time Olympics participant, Lejsek was not even one of the three luge medalists in pre-mentioned tournament either. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:34, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. World Championships participant in 2019, 2020, 2021, 2023. European Championships participant in 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023. (According to Whatlinkshere, haven't clicked them yet.) Geschichte (talk) 20:49, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as above. I also didn’t find any RS that would show passing WP:SIGCOV. Tau Corvi (talk) 16:29, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hayate Usui

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I have carried out WP:BEFORE on this article about a martial artist, and added two references, though one is a passing mention. I do not think Usui meets WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO or WP:NMMA. Tacyarg (talk) 08:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as per nom. Lekkha Moun (talk) 16:29, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails to meet WP:NMMA and I didn't find the significant independent coverage required to meet WP:GNG. Fight results and databases are not enough to show WP notability. Papaursa (talk) 02:10, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:NMMA. Highest Rank: #60 acc. to FightMatrix [5]. Vorann Gencov (talk) 07:10, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ainer Cleve

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC #5 (Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources.")

I created the article in 2020 when the old WP:NGRIDIRON presumed notability for NFL players -- we have database sources showing that Cleve appeared in 19 NFL games as a back and end from 1921-1924. When the presumption was reversed, User:Hey man im josh correctly tagged the article due to the need for additional sources. I thought that someone who appeared in 19 NFL games would have WP:SIGCOV, but my follow-up searches in 2022 didn't find any. I searched again today but didn't find anything rising to the level of SIGCOV. (FWIW: I did find some passing references where his given name was listed as "Ainar" [6] and others as "Einar" [7] [8].)

Despite my efforts, the article still does not comply with our guidelines, so it's time for me to throw in the towel -- unless someone can dig up SIGCOV that I've been unable to find. Cbl62 (talk) 00:37, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Newspapers.com is unavailable and will continue to be unavailable for the vast majority of users (including me) for an unknown amount of time. Could we at the very least draftify this? I can't even search for sources. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No objection to that. Cbl62 (talk) 14:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify per nom and Beanie’s comments above. Beanie and Cbl62 both have a reputation of working very hard to find coverage of lesser-known topics if it’s available, so if either (or both) of them are interested, this is a very reasonable ATD. Worst case is there is no coverage available when newspapers.com is back online and the draft gets abandoned/deleted. Frank Anchor 02:20, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify: Finding sources about Ainer Cleve that meet WP:SPORTBASIC and WP:GNG is proving difficult. This approach would allow more time for research to prove that Cleve is notable (which is better than removing the content from the platform).--AstridMitch (talk) 06:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify: Searching newspapers.com and the LOC, I'm not finding the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. The only sources in the article are stats databases, and all I could find after trying multiple searches with different spellings was passing mentions such as [[9]] and [[10]]. Draftify as a WP:ATD to allow for interested editors to find more time to find significant coverage. Let'srun (talk) 14:04, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kodjo Aziangbe

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Contested PROD; subject fails WP:GNG and WP:NSPORT due to lack of WP:SIGCOV. Sources are limited to databases and routine match coverage. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:16, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Much of the sourcing would be in Arabic, Ukrainian and Japanese. Not exactly easy for an English speaker to search Geschichte (talk) 07:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Drafify - not currently notable, but might be in future. Giant Snowman 20:38, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would accept draftify as an AtD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify – Per above. Svartner (talk) 19:10, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kristofer Karlsson

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. The links provided are all primary. Could not find third party coverage of this individual. LibStar (talk) 01:27, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Delete: No independent sources available. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 09:42, 15 July 2024 (UTC)~~ Keep: After Julle's additions, enough WP:SIGCOV for WP:GNG. (I wonder how many articles are deleted because of wrong language settings) — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 09:09, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Doesn’t meet WP:GNG, no reliable references, the author should consider seeking more references, a lot is written on the article but nothing to show or prove notability.Madeforall1 (talk) 14:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I've expanded the article and added references from Yle, Vestmanlands Läns Tidning, sv:Enköpings-Posten. Some of these are shorter news pieces, but a couple of them have more substance. /Julle (talk) 21:20, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ping Alien333 and Madeforall1 in case you want to take another look. These sources were a bit difficult to locate if one doesn't speak Swedish (and in a couple of cases required access to newspaper archive to find them). /Julle (talk) 21:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per sources from Julle 🤾‍♂️ Malo95 (talk) 17:53, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep: Did a quick Google Translate on the snippet from the YLE source added, it seems to talk about this person. I'll assume the others are of a similar quality, we have enough for a basic article anyway. Oaktree b (talk) 00:34, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Julles additions AlexandraAVX (talk) 16:26, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rudi Mahmutaj

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Mahmutaj never played in a professional league and the coverage to date isn't enough for WP:SIGCOV, in my view. Panorama 1 is just an announcement of being released, Panorama 2 is just a direct quote from Mahmutaj with no third party analysis and Sport Ekspres represents the best source on him but it still only confirms that he scored 19 goals for Luftëtari and played at under-17 level for Albania, which I would say falls just short of the depth required. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:16, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment – I was wondering... Since interview sources fail WP:GNG, do ones with third-party analysis count to demonstrate the person's notability? If so, what are some examples from websites? ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:57, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This interview is an example of one that would count as having at least some third party analysis (of the tennis player Carlos Alcaraz). Clariniie I am aware that that's a different sport, though. Good interview sources for football look like The Guardian (Leah Williamson interview) and BBC (Aitana Bonmatí interview). Notice how the articles are written outside of a normal Q&A format and how most of them start with some background info on the interviewee first, which automatically pushes it to SIGCOV. The articles do more than just merely regurgitate the interview. If someone can find similar calibre sourcing for Mahmutaj, I will happily withdraw my support for deletion. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:11, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:14, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ervis Koçi (footballer, born 1998)

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No top tier appearances, no meaningful prose and no evidence of WP:SIGCOV. The only source that I can find is Panorama, a mere squad listing. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:00, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, played some football games on a tier that was not fully professional, and no relevant sources. To the closer: remember to move Ervis Koçi (footballer, born 1984) to the non-disambiguated title afterwards. Geschichte (talk) 13:12, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Delete – Poorly-formatted article without significant coverage and major updates :( I also agree with Geschichte for the article rename once this nomination has been closed. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:59, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: not even a claim of notability. — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 17:34, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:15, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Šárka Sudová

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With only database references listed, this article fails WP:GNG. The closest significant coverage in reliable sources I found is iDNES. Unlike her sister Nikola, she has not received any medal record. Notability is not inherited from relatives; as ATD, should we consider redirect this article to her sister or Czech Republic at the 2010 Winter Olympics? ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:00, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. She is definitely notable enough. Article expanded. FromCzech (talk) 12:06, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Updated article after edits from FromCzech passes the notability guideline. C 679 13:42, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. There still isn't enough WP:RS for GNG: apart from the iDNES ref, the article as of now relies on database references and texts written by herself (author profile pages). I was unable to find better. (N.B.: I do not speak Czech and my assessment of sources is based on machine translation of them, which means it may be very flawed). — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 18:41, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I added several other references. FromCzech (talk) 16:04, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep, per the expansion by FromCzech. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Granuel Lika

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Lika played only 97 mins in the Superliga and there is no evidence of WP:SIGCOV. My own searches yielded only Panorama, a passing mention, and Durrës Lajm, a squad listing. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Egli Trimi

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His professional career was extremely brief by the looks of it. My own searches didn't yield any non-database coverage, therefore WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC don't seem to be met. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:22, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy delete, not even a credible claim to notability at this point. Geschichte (talk) 13:11, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Delete – Lack of major edits with only database sources listed, this article is clearly not notable. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marlon Campbell

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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:05, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails both WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC. No significant coverage of him at all. — YoungForever^(talk) 23:29, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Non-notable footballer, who doesn’t pass WP:SIGCOV. Tau Corvi (talk) 22:36, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I could only find some routine coverage in match reports for the Montserrat national team after he scored 2 goals in the team's first win for 17 years. [11] [12] Not enough to satisfy WP:SIGCOV. C 679 10:30, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mauro Trari

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Fails WP:GNG. I made this article at a time when WP:NFOOTY was a thing. Paul Vaurie (talk) 16:46, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Non-notable semi-professional footballer, who doesn’t pass WP:SIGCOV. All I found is statistics. Tau Corvi (talk) 14:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:17, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marek Gajdošík

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Yet another long-unsourced article of a Slovak men's footballer who seems to have a minor career. According to Soccerway, his career in higher level clubs lasted between 107 and 800 minutes. He went missing from 2015 until 2023, but came back to play for third tier club FK Beluša, then disappeared again. I can't find any better source than passing mentions and database from my searches. Article fails WP:GNG overall. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:40, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Not notable by any stretch of the imagination. Athel cb (talk) 14:05, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 15:47, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I didn't find any secondary sources. He is also not mentioned in the articles of the clubs he played for, so there is nowhere to redirect. Tau Corvi (talk) 16:51, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 19:17, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zaine Kennedy

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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Almost all the sourcing is not third party but speedway related. LibStar (talk) 01:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The fact that the sources are related to the speedway does not make them non-independent. Per WP:GNG "Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it. These sources could be considered affiliated with him if, for example, he were their owner. I would add a few more secondary sources [13] [14] [15] Tau Corvi (talk) 22:01, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have set up a discussion here Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Speedway_related_sources. LibStar (talk) 23:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I saw the RSN discussion first, so I do not plan to vote, but to give my opinion from my limited perspective. Having taken a look at Scunthorpe Scorpions, which looks like two different teams on one article, I can count about five dozen riders that have articles. Of the "Notable riders," most of them use "speedway related sources" in their articles with British Speedway cited between two and three dozen times. (More problematic, but farther outside of the discussion is that at least one article is citing sources that are MREL and GUNREL.)

Overall, the issue over the specific sources is going to have an effect on other articles. If deemed a problem, then there will need to be more AfD discussions in the near future; while if deemed acceptable could lead to additional article creations. I am of the opinion that redirects to the team articles could be more preferred than deletion and that some information might be includable in the various team articles. That said, I am unsure if the sources are a problem on these rider articles. --Super Goku V (talk) 06:19, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Archie Vaughan

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So what exactly makes this guy notable? Being the son of Michael Vaughan, is all I can tell. He hasn't played cricket at a senior level and hasn't done anything of note in cricket to warrant inclusion. No amount of WP:ROUTINE refbombs can hide that he is a WP:GNG fail. AA (talk) 17:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Not notable, fails WP:GNG. Delete. Go4thProsper (talk) 19:38, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I don’t understand whether he has already played for Somerset and the England U19 to pass WP:NCRIC, but signing a contract with the club and being called up to the U19 team is being covered in the media, which indicates the passage WP:SIGCOV. I will list several secondary sources, you can easily find more [16][17][18] Tau Corvi (talk) 14:09, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But why is that notable? Plenty of people get signed by major sports teams and never go onto do anything. Is the bar really set this low? Again, if his father wasn't a famous cricketer, he would not get any coverage. AA (talk) 22:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Article was moved to mainspace via Afc. Subject has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Hildreth gazzard (talk) 00:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep Widespread coverage in established media including BBC, Sky Sports, The Times, The Daily Telegraph The Independent, ESPNCricinfo etc. Yes the articles often mention his father in the headline or the article themselves but that is going to be the case his entire life unless he manages to totally surpass what his father achieved which is a high bar to set. The articles themselves are about him, not his father, and as such he easily passes the coverage test. Shrug02 (talk) 20:15, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ilya Syrovatko

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Does not meet verifiability guidelines per WP:SPORTSPERSON. 333fortheain (talk) 04:16, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Does not fail WP:V thanks to various databases, but an article cannot be built on databases only. Geschichte (talk) 12:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The article needs to add more information and sources. Passes WP:SIGCOV, it’s easy to find reliable secondary sources in Russian that talk about his career and personal life [19][20][21][22][23][24][25][26][27] Tau Corvi (talk) 15:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete article lacks in sources and in any information. The sources i found, including the ones presented by @Tau Corvi (Thank you for providing those) are, in my opinion, not enough to prove notability as per WP:SPORTCRIT - those are just narration of transfers, some tabloid coverage and game results. Vorann Gencov (talk) 15:41, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Lacks notability and reliable sources, the article does not meet Wikipedia's standards and therefore should be deleted. Yakov-kobi (talk) 13:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Joe Phillips (English cricketer, born 2003)

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Subject person played only 1 List-A and 2 First class match. Does WP:GNG surpasses WP:NCRICK? Twinkle1990 (talk) 15:42, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@Twinkle1990: - can I just point out NSPORT states that "Failing to meet the criteria in this guideline means that notability will need to be established in other ways (for example, the general notability guideline...) - so all NSPORT is saying that people who meet those criteria are considered notable, but not meeting those criteria doesn't automatically make them non-notable. Mdann52 (talk) 20:50, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - meets GNG. Mdann52 (talk) 20:50, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't appear on the cricket delsort - tryingto add that again first Blue Square Thing (talk) 05:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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At worst this is an obvious redirect to List of Gloucestershire County Cricket Club players where his name needs to be added. A note should also be added, as has been done for others. Beyond that I have no particular view here - there are some sources, but not so many. I suspect he is likely to be covered in others as well fwiw Blue Square Thing (talk) 05:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Gloucestershire County Cricket Club players. He does not meet GNG - this is the one qualifying source. Gloscricket is obviously not independent coverage. -- asilvering (talk) 18:13, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, but he may be notable in the future, i.e. WP:NOTNOW. SWinxy (talk) 01:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SWinxy, in this case, wouldn't a redirect be more appropriate? That way, if he becomes notable in the future, someone won't have to start the article from scratch. -- asilvering (talk) 18:27, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, borderline decision but given the rhythms and vagaries of the English county cricket season we are approaching the part where younger players are used to a greater extent, precisely the time this page will be useful to people who follow the game to refer to. Hildreth Gazzard (talk) 06:47, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to List of Gloucestershire County Cricket Club players. References are currently insufficient for GNG. Frank Anchor 18:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep. Passes WP:NCRIC as a cricketer who has played at the highest domestic level. I would add [28] and maybe [29] to the references. Tau Corvi (talk) 14:18, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yevhen Kholoniuk

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Non-notable skater; medal placement at the junior level or bronze/silver medals at the national championships do not meet the requirements of WP:NSKATE. Google search turns up nothing outside of wikis and scoring databases. Previous AFD received zero arguments in favor of keeping this article that cited any evidence of notability. Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:50, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. NSKATE is wrong and should never have been adopted. So many articles about champion skaters are being deleted. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 19:47, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to 2011-2012 figure skating season#Ice dance 4 or to 2011–12 ISU Junior Grand Prix#Ice dance, possibly to another table in those articles. Doesn't pass WP:SIGCOV. Tau Corvi (talk) 13:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marek Solčanský

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Redirect to Slovakia at the 2014 Winter Olympics#Luge as ATD because I could not find any in-depth coverage about this luger to meet WP:GNG. All I found on news websites were passing mentions of his participation at the tournament. He was not even on top three luge winners. This article has been deleted from Slovak Wikipedia on 18 November 2018, possibly due to BLP concerns. The only interlanguage wiki available is Norsk Bokmål (Norwegian) Wikipedia but it listed exactly the same sources as the English article. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:20, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep the article meets the notability criteria for athletes, having competed in the Winter Olympics and achieved notable rankings in World Championships and World Cups.Yakov-kobi (talk) 20:09, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Slovakia at the 2014 Winter Olympics#Luge: Unable to find any WP:SIGCOV from independent, reliable sources to meet the WP:GNG. Participating in the Olympics no longer grants inherent notability. Redirect as a WP:ATD per the nom. Let'srun (talk) 02:59, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Slovakia at the 2014 Winter Olympics as the subject doesn’t meet WP:SPORTCRIT. Could not find any WP:SIGCOV Vorann Gencov (talk) 11:50, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect as above or to Luge at the 2014 Winter Olympics – Doubles#Results. Doesn’t meet WP:SIGCOV. Tau Corvi (talk) 17:44, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect as suggested as an AtD. We've been presented with sporting results, and from that we're supposed to build a biography of a living human being? WP:SPORTSPERSON requires at least one source which directly details the subject. Nothing like that here. BusterD (talk) 11:28, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]