Commons:Deletion requests/Template:IPPAR
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"Os dados podem ser utilizados livremente desde que se faça referência ao IPPAR como fonte de informação, agradecendo-se que, sempre que se detectarem deficiências, lhe seja comunicado, de modo a proceder-se à respectiva correcção. Estas informações deverão ser transmitidas através do e-mail: ippar@ippar.pt"[1] [emphasized by me]. If I understand this correctly, basically, if you detect some error in the work, you are obliged to contact them by email. This is a condition in conflict with commons licensing policy, reminiscent in its nature of the obnoxious BSD advertising clause. Also, "utilizados livremente" (free use) is ambiguous. --Rtc 08:20, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- Wrong. The disclaimer states that data from IPPAR may be used freely as long as there is a reference to the source, IPPAR; they will appreciate if you/we report errors so they can corrected them. You are *not* obliged to anything, except for the reference, which is a common procedure in copyright [GFDL also requires that]. -- Nuno Tavares ☜ PT 14:55, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. The GFDL explicitly permits derivative work and commercial use; this license doesn't. --Rtc 17:06, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Delete This statment is no more avaiable at the IPPAR website. Manuel Anastácio (talk • contribs) tryed to contact the copyright holder with no results (see here, in portuguese) Lugusto • ※ 01:57, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Keep Hey people, the statement is still there, in the "Pesquisa de Património" section. It can be seen here. Thus, the template can still be kept. Another thought: when they state "data can be used freely" (Os dados podem ser utilizados livremente) with the condition that "IPPAR be cited as reference" (desde que se faça referência ao IPPAR), then it must mean that the information concerning the Portuguese monuments in the site, including images (which are clearly part of the "data" provided by the site), are free to be used. They do not establish any condition appart from attribution. If one day IPPAR changes its mind and decides to state that the images cannot be used, then we stop using them, but right now they are clearly granting anyone the right to use them freely. This is literally what the Portuguese sentence in here means. --Fulviusbsas 02:37, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
- The statement is still available, and in my opinion, it means "use for whatever you want, as long as...". Maybe we could try to contact IPPAR again and check if that is really what they mean. Lusitana 15:48, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
template kept --ALE! ¿…? 11:24, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
This says that images are available for private use only, and additionally "Permission is required for using any material available on this website for other purposes, including commercial purposes. Each request will be analysed on a case by case basis in conformity with existing regulations and under the conditions set out thereof." This is clearly not what the template states, and even then the text in template allows them to revoke any permission, which does not conform with COM:L. This will affect all images in Category:Images from IPPAR. russavia (talk) 04:52, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
- This template was kept before... it's entirely possible the licensing terms have changed, in which case we need to determine when, and put a cutoff date on the tag, not delete it. The original licensing terms were here; the date on that was May 23, 2009, and is the last date in the Internet Archive for that link. It appears the website and organization name changed shortly after that (from IPPAR to IGESPAR) and the terms also seem to have changed. So anything using this template after mid-2009 or so would seem to be bad. But, this template was kept before, so uploads from that era should still be allowed I think (and the template needs to be kept to support them, but of course the wording needs to be changed quite a bit). Carl Lindberg (talk) 07:59, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
No clear consensus to delete. Looks like a cutoff date should be established to prevent new images that do not meet the licensing requirements described in the tag from being uploaded with it. -FASTILY (TALK) 00:37, 30 March 2013 (UTC)