User talk:Hypersite
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Tip: Categorizing images
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Thanks again for your uploads! More information about categorization can be found in Commons:Categories, and don't hesitate to leave a note on the help desk.CategorizationBot (talk) 10:42, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
- Image:IMPRUDENTS APACHES .jpg was uncategorized on 20 December 2009 CategorizationBot (talk) 10:42, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
- Image:Raflebar.jpg was uncategorized on 20 December 2009 CategorizationBot (talk) 10:42, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
- Image:Nouvelle-église-en-construction-au-benin.jpg was uncategorized on 15 July 2010 CategorizationBot (talk) 10:46, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
- Image:Croqui.jpg was uncategorized on 9 August 2010 CategorizationBot (talk) 14:03, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
- Image:Plan-aérien.jpg was uncategorized on 10 August 2010 CategorizationBot (talk) 18:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Image:Voisin2.jpg was uncategorized on 10 August 2010 CategorizationBot (talk) 18:48, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Image:Fumee liquideN1.jpg was uncategorized on 20 September 2010 CategorizationBot (talk) 10:46, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- Image:Val-d'europe.jpg was uncategorized on 11 January 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:18, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- Image:GateauFeteMaman.jpg was uncategorized on 8 May 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 10:57, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
- Image:Taux de natalité net dans Monde 2007.png was uncategorized on 5 June 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 15:08, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
- Image:Entrée-gardée-de-Kleinfontein.jpg was uncategorized on 6 June 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:35, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
- Image:Lutte-Contre-Le-Sida-A-Brazzaville (2).jpg was uncategorized on 23 June 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:00, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
- Image:Carte-loi-SB1070-3.png was uncategorized on 26 September 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 13:14, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
- Image:Les-etat-unis-en 1803-04-1804-03.jpg was uncategorized on 19 November 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 14:44, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- Image:Tir-au-bière-pong.jpg was uncategorized on 19 November 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 14:44, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- Image:Bièrepong.jpg was uncategorized on 19 November 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 14:44, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- Image:Carte-des-États-confédérés-d'Amérique.jpg was uncategorized on 19 November 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 14:44, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- Image:LosAngleles-2009.JPG was uncategorized on 19 November 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 14:44, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- Image:France-par-hypersite.jpg was uncategorized on 19 November 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 14:44, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- Image:Gobelets-bierepong.jpg was uncategorized on 19 November 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 14:44, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
- Image:Signalisation routière bilingue à l'entrée de la Louisiane.jpg was uncategorized on 19 November 2011 CategorizationBot (talk) 14:44, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
Salut ^^
[edit]Je viens de voir ta carte Nouvellefrance-V2.png que je trouve totalement excelente, enfin une personne qui comprend la véritée. Merci du fond du coeur que tu vueille aussi montrer la véritée sur la Nouvelle-France. J'espére pouvoir vous reparlez si vous voyez mon message, car je pense que nos points de vues respectif seront en harmonie ^^
Cordialement, GD21091993 de France
- You have misplaced the label for Fort de Portneuf - although the dot is in the correct location on the map. I left a comment on the image talk page as well. 75.41.110.200 20:04, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
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Martin H. (talk) 13:38, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Jimmy Domengeaux Photograph
[edit]Cher Hypersite, Je voudrais utiliser dans une publication l'image de Jimmy Domengeaux que vous avez placé sur Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:James_Domengeaux.jpg).
Pouvez-vous me dire la source?
Sincerement, --Cadien (talk) 17:28, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
Dear Hypersite, I wish to use in a publication the image of Jimmy Domengeaux that you placed on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:James_Domengeaux.jpg).
Can you tell me the source?
Thanks! --Cadien (talk) 17:28, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
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High Contrast (talk) 11:10, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
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Moxy (talk) 15:41, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
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Martin H. (talk) 15:42, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
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Martin H. (talk) 15:43, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
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Martin H. (talk) 15:44, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Besides the above also:
- File:Banc-de-libreville-au-gabon.jpg
- File:Ville de Kananga centre de la République démocratique du Congo.jpg
- File:Moundou-Chad.jpg
- File:Eonomies-finances-niger.jpg
- File:Une-FNAC-Marocaine.jpg
- File:Carrières-sous-Poissy-Banlieue.jpg
- File:Val-d'europe.jpg
- File:Le-Plessis-Robinson01.jpg
- File:Bussy-Saint-Georges.jpg
- File:PANNEAUX DECRET.gif (reproduction of something that you not created yourself)
- File:Une-entreprise-de-la-silicone-vallley-europeene.jpg
- File:GateauFeteMaman.jpg (you removed a watermark to steal a photo of a cake? unbelievable.)
- File:Entrée-gardée-de-Kleinfontein.jpg
- File:Lutte-Contre-Le-Sida-A-Brazzaville (2).jpg
- File:Fumee liquideN1.jpg (from an advertisement)
- File:Fumee liquideN2.jpg
- File:Partie-de-bière-pong.jpg
--Martin H. (talk) 15:56, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
- And your other uploads need correction. File:Atrocevengence.jpg is own work? Its a reproduction of something that you not created yourself and it has a watermark, therefore its not even your own reproduction. Whats wrong with you?? --Martin H. (talk) 15:59, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
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Jcb (talk) 11:24, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
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Ray Garraty (talk) 18:23, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Please see File_talk:NouvelleFrance-Vraie-Version.png. -- AnonMoos (talk) 23:15, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
Carte anachronique de tous les empires français
[edit]Juste un mot pour te féliciter de l'excellent travail que tu as fourni sur cette carte. Si ça t'intéresse par ailleurs, tu pourrais peut-être ajouter ces territoires qui, apparemment, auraient été découverts par des Français : l'Île de France (Groenland) et la Terre du duc d'Orléans. --Embu wiki (talk) 14:19, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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Yours sincerely, Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:13, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
SVG (Scalable Vector Graphics)
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EugeneZelenko (talk) 14:08, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
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Jcb (talk) 17:34, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
Source of derivative work is not properly indicated: File:France-par-hypersite.jpg
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Yours sincerely, BevinKacon (talk) 15:50, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
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