Talk:Attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election
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Trump reportedly wanted to join the rioters
editI don't think we have sufficiently weighty RSs to add this to the article, but its in the media and I wanted to note them for followup later. Politico had this scoop,[1] which has spawned (of course) a cascade of other media stories based on the original Politco piece. Apparently a secret service agent, Trumps lead guy, gave closed (not public testimony). The committee hasn't disclosed it. So what we have here is he said..... he heard it from a friend.....that the other person told a bunch of people..... stuff (Politico heard it from a source that the agent testified to the panel.) This is why I don't think the report has enough WEIGHT to be added to the article. But it sure is interesting. Even as the violence was happening, Trump was tryhing to talk his detail into taking him down to the capitol. Instead they took him to the White House. At least, if the report is accurate.
Imagine if Secret Service had really taken Pence to Andrews and Trump got to the capitol.....
Anyway, the other part of this story that we might be able to use if the committee discloses the agent's testimony is commentary from Professor Ruth Ben-Ghiat, who studies fascism and coups, and opined that "“If you’re having a coup and summoned everybody, and aim to be anointed as the head of a new illegitimate government, you have to be there,” I'm sure there's a weightier RS than HuffPost but for now, [2]
References
- ^ Swan, Betsy Woodruff. "Trump privately raised Jan. 6 Capitol appearance with Secret Service agent, select panel hears". POLITICO.
- ^ "Trump Botched His 'Coup' By Not Marching To Capitol Jan. 6, Says Expert On Autocrats". HuffPost. 12 June 2022.
Semi-protected edit request on 3 July 2024
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Change within the brief synopsis box on the right of the page, From Deaths: 9 to Deaths: 1 (Due to violence) 8 due to existing health conditions either on the day or shortly after)[1] Bdalecox1999 (talk) 06:03, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Bdalecox1999: For now I have commented it out as being unsourced and not mentioned anywhere in the article itself. Looking at the factcheck site, it's more nuanced than what you propose, and the infobox isn't intended for wordy explanations, so we need to think of an alternative way to present it. ~Anachronist (talk) 06:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
Attempts to overturn the 2000 United States presidential election
editWhy no Wikipedia article on Al Gore's attempted overturning of the 2000 Bush victory? This seems to show a Wikipedia bias in favor of unhappy defeated Democrats. 174.170.145.188 (talk) 19:22, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Because he didn't; he conceded. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Overturned before election is over ?
editAlmost everything detailed in the article took place before there was an official winner. So it wouldn't be overturning anything. 2600:6C40:0:204E:A133:B740:E9FE:5228 (talk) 11:06, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- No, the votes were in and had been counted, this was just the certification of that result. Slatersteven (talk) 11:07, 21 July 2024 (UTC)