Talk:Canada in World War I

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Royal Canadian Navy

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This article should be updated to include Canada's naval forces during the war. Although modest, Canada's naval program was of serious debate during the lead-up to the First World War and its contribution is worth mentioning. A good source is Canada's Navy: The First Century by Marc Milner, a book I'm reading now. If no one updates by the time I'm finished reading I'll update myself. OhlundFan2 (talk) 03:51, 21 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

QUESTION

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How do you link this page into a Wikipedia page? I'm having troubles with that. Somebody please help!!!

Writing and Grammar

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No offense to anyone involved in this page but it needs very serious revision. It is riddled with spelling, grammatical, and stylistic errors. --Ggbroad 00:52, 7 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Troop Numbers

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I havn't noticed one consistent number of troops that the Canadian Army had, or how many were in active service in the war. Somebody should do some research and look into the number.

You see different figures in different sources. One interesting question: when do you start and stop counting? It's not like people stopped serving (or stopped dying) on November 11, 1918 (and the standard figure for losses in WWII, 42,042, for instance, is computed to the end of 1947). The CEF recruited in 1919 and 1920. Col. Nicholson in the Official History gives a figure of 614,964 to the end of 1918 (619,636 to the end of 1920) of whom 470,224 served overseas. This is much higher percentage of overseas deployment than in WWII, incidentally. But a colleague of mine who is doing research in this area finds all sorts of cases of people enlisting, being discharged, and then enlisting again under a different name or just in the different place, so we can be sure that double counting went on, etc. So, you'll notice some recent sources - like Granatstein's "Hell's Corner" - avoids giving a precise number. Over 600,000 is a safe bet, of whom around 470,000 served overseas.--Ggbroad 14:54, 20 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

numbers

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i found these numbers in one of the links and find they should be included in the article on WW1 "For a nation of eight million people Canada's war effort was remarkable. A total of 619,636 men and women served in the Canadian forces in the First World War, and of these 66,655 gave their lives and another 172,950 were wounded. Nearly one of every ten Canadians who fought in the war did not return."

That number 619,636 is the number who served in the CEF to the end of 1920, not just during the war. It doesn't include Canadians who served in, for instance, the RFC but never the CEF or Canadians who fought in other armed forces. I wonder. Is it really a "remarkable" effort for a nation of 8 million? It's a mobilization rate of about 8%.

I should think 8% is pretty good indeed for a mobilization rate even with conscription later in the war. I don't know what the population of the United States was in 1941, but I should be very surprised indeed if 8% of the American population was in uniform during WWII. Tim from Canada — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.73.131.132 (talk) 23:16, 31 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

The numbers game

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The original author of this article may notice the major change made in the section on the Second Battle of Ypres. The last paragraph stated, "Over 6,000 Canadians lost their lives before the reinforcements arrived." According to Veterans Affairs Canada, and a number of notable Canadian war historians, during the 48 hours of the Second Battle of Ypres from 22 to 24 April 1915, the Canadian Expeditionary Force suffered roughly 6000 casualties, of which over 2000 died. Considering it would appear the majority of the information in this section (I didn't have the time to reread and compare it all) is taken almost word for word from the Veterans Affairs Canada website...it might be best to avoid such glaring errors. For example, compare this text from VAC to the first paragraph of the text on this site: "In the first week of April 1915, the Canadian troops were moved from their quiet sector to a bulge in the Allied line in front of the City of Ypres. This was the famed—or notorious—Ypres Salient, where the British and Allied line pushed into the German line in a concave bend." Just a...suggestion. Wikigi39 16:29 AST 5/07/07

Move back (June 2010)

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The result of the move request was: Page not moved, no consensus.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:14, 4 July 2010 (UTC)Reply



Military history of Canada during World War IMilitary history of Canada during the First World War — Lets put this back the way it was..The old title is what is used in Canada [1].(its not WW I) Move was done in good faith by new editor that does not realizes we have talk about this before. just like Military history of Canada during the Second World War.. Question Y cant i just undo this move ??? Relisted. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 11:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC) Moxy (talk) 05:54, 7 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

  • Oppose- The new name is better because it is more commonly referred to as "World War I". It should also be this way because the Wikipedia article on World War I is called "World War I", so this is more consistent. Since World War I was a "World War", it doesn't have enough of a strong national tie to suggest that the Canadian name be used. --WikiDonn (talk) 22:48, 11 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
I have always been surprised that the tile of the main article is not the full proper name "First World War" . Its odd to have the abbreviation as the title in an encyclopedia. Moxy (talk) 15:28, 17 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
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Requested move (November 2010)

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The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. Jafeluv (talk) 21:09, 11 November 2010 (UTC)Reply


Military history of Canada during World War IMilitary history of Canada during the First World War — As this was the original title, and the article Military history of Canada during the Second World War appears to be stable there and has never been moved, and seeing as this article was moved without a discussion, and an attempt to move it back reached "no consensus" with three in favour (incl. nominator) and two against, even after relisting, I think it is due to be moved back, even if just on procedural grounds. No consensus ought to favour the original title, but let's see if we can get a consensus. In my opinion, "First World War" is more encyclopedic and also more distinguishable from "Second World War" than "World War I" from "World War II". Consistency should also be taken into account. Srnec (talk) 22:36, 3 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

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Aboriginals

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Were Canadian aboriginals ever formally forbidden to serve at the beginning of WWI or even put into special battalions? They certainly served in regular New Brunswick regiments and battalions and I have never seen a newspaper article from the period questioning their right to be there. Tim from Canada — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.73.131.132 (talk) 23:21, 31 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

Dates?

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This article is missing many key dates. When did Canadian troops first arrive? What was the date of the first battle? The furst casualty?77Mike77 (talk) 18:51, 1 October 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Requested move 24 June 2023

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover)MaterialWorks 22:21, 1 July 2023 (UTC)Reply


Military history of Canada during World War ICanada in World War I – The history article covering WW2 has already been moved to Canada in World War II. Moving this article would add consistency, and be more concise. ARandomName123 (talk) 20:32, 24 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

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