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The Bugle: Issue 217, May 2024

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DYK for Ernest Prestwich

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On 12 May 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ernest Prestwich, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Harrogate War Memorial, by Ernest Prestwich, names 1163 casualties of the First and Second World Wars, of whom more than 300 have unknown graves, and the youngest was 15 years old? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ernest Prestwich. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ernest Prestwich), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for Harrogate War Memorial

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On 12 May 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Harrogate War Memorial, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Harrogate War Memorial, by Ernest Prestwich, names 1163 casualties of the First and Second World Wars, of whom more than 300 have unknown graves, and the youngest was 15 years old? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ernest Prestwich. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Harrogate War Memorial), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Women in Red June 2024

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Women in Red | June 2024, Volume 10, Issue 6, Numbers 293, 294, 308, 309, 310


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Hope all is well! Just thought you might like to know that when booking my ticket for Competing Churches and Chapels, 1829–1939 (A Joint Conference of the Ecclesiological Society and the Chapels Society) here, I noticed your pic used as the header image. Although the grey border cuts it off on this page, there is some text correctly crediting you at the bottom of the full image of the Ecclesiological Society. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 10:18, 31 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Ooh, thank you, Nice one. It's a pity that the Eventbrite link no longer works, but it's good to know, anyway. Over the years I've spotted a few of my pics being used, and there is rarely any acknowledgment. Two of the naughtiest were newspapers - they should have known better, haha. As for the chapel in the picture, it has now lost its graceful rows of spires around the tops of the walls. It was very pretty once. I hope you have managed to get inside. its poppy heads are very fine work. Storye book (talk) 10:39, 31 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

June music

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Thank you for the Faerber pic! More roses for you! For related thoughts and music, look on my talk for 1 June. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:06, 1 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Enjoy today's story, related to my topic of the year: 300 years Bach's chorale cantatas, and the first was written for today, - listen to the music, beginning with a French overture for a chorale fantasy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:40, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. I'll have a look. Storye book (talk) 13:46, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Franz Kafka died 100 years ago OTD, hence the story. I uploaded a few pics from the visit of Graham87. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:45, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Alexander Lang? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:22, 4 June 2024 (UTC) [1] --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:27, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Lang done. Pretty picture, this time! Storye book (talk) 18:47, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Agree, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:13, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I get more and more fascinated with that person! The German WP has two sons and a daughter, and I find only one in references we can use. - Anna and Bernhard Blume? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:29, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Blumes done. Nice pic, I think? We are lucky to get that. Storye book (talk) 15:04, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes, thank you so much! - Today's story is about an extraordinary biography, Peter Demetz. - I uploaded a few more pics but leave the link, because there's a new one of Graham and his mother who liked it. Monika Frimmer? (take your time, I just don't want to forget.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:20, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Frimmer done. I found another nice pic. Storye book (talk) 08:21, 6 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
yess - I remember her on stage --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:08, 6 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Always precious

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Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:57, 6 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you! Storye book (talk) 08:21, 6 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
New pics of spectacular weather. I really like the image of Alexander Lang, on the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:25, 6 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Almost 10k views for Lang yesterday, and all will have seen your pic! Could you perhaps crop Katja Paryla from File:Bundesarchiv Bild 183-W0519-0028, Berlin, 80. Geburtstag Wolfgang Heinz.jpg (centre) or find another one? de:Annette Reber, for fairness? The second woman with him has no article, and the third we don't know. - Congrats to the double DYK! - Any thoughts about the Kerck nom? I don't mean approval, just clarification. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:06, 7 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
The Katna Paryla job has already been done today, by Lotje. I'll have a look at the other things. Storye book (talk) 08:41, 7 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I have discovered that we are not permitted to upload non-free images onto English Wikipedia if they are intended for German Wkiipedia articles. Sorry. I did find an image here, if that helps. Storye book (talk) 08:56, 7 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
OK I have looked at the nom. I am sick and tired of certain people stalking your nominations and distracting the conversation because they have never heard of Puccini, and they think that mere facts given by a theatre company are all necessarily promotional. There is nothing promotional about saying that a composer wrote this opera, and a singer sang that role. If they had included adjectives, such as "brilliant" or "very fine", then that would be promotional, but facts of composition and roles are not promotional. That's my opinion, anyway. The one thing we can be sure of, is that the great theatres have no need to lie about basic facts - so we can pick and choose those basic facts and repeat them safely. Again, just my opinion. I believe that the principle here is that WP rules need to be used with common sense, and not just tools for winning arguments. Storye book (talk) 09:13, 7 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. The crop was made in 2019 by someone else, and I happily inserted in Lang's article and will begin her article shortly.
The Reber pic helps, - while that is probably not a RS, I can use it as external link when I write her article.
I'd like to keep the discussion within that nom, but if it isn't solved there I'll go higher. Questioning ethical use of sources is just too much to silently let go by. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:39, 7 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I agree with that. Storye book (talk) 15:29, 7 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Nothing so far in that area. - Today I wanted to write a happy song story, on a friend's birthday, but instead we have the word of thunder on top of it, which would have been better on 2 June, this year's first Sunday after Trinity. The new lilypond - thanks to DanCherek - is quite impressive. As my 2 Jun story said: Bach was fired up. - Today's Main page is rich in music, also Franz Liszt and a conductor. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:33, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
When photographing in the Mansion House in Doncaster this year, I was shown an old grand piano which had been played by Liszt when he visited. I photographed it, and the photo is on Commons. A man played it a little, for me. It needed tuning, but it had a rich bass, and was quite loud. A pleasant sound. Storye book (talk) 15:17, 11 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Great! - Éric Tappy? (the Nerone to the Poppea who died last year) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:21, 15 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Tappy done. Storye book (talk) 09:41, 15 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! Excellent! - Today is "the day" for James Joyce, also for Bach's fourth chorale cantata (and why does it come before the third?) - the new pics have a mammal I had to look up. - I have two DYK noms open which might profit from your compromise ideas. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:59, 16 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
compromise ideas. Storye book (talk) 17:12, 16 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I like that approach, but meant the real nom, - compromise wordings welcome. - New pics of food and flowers come with the story of Noye's Fludde (premiered on 18 June), written by Brian Boulton. I nominated Éric Tappy because he died, and it needs support today! I nominated another women for GA in the Women in Green June run, - review welcome, and more noms planned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I don't do GA's, but I have done minor copyedits on two of those articles. If you don't like my edits, please change it back. Good luck with the nominations. I am a big fan of Noye's Fludde, it's magical. But when organising its first performance, Britten was behaving very badly, and if Peter Pears had not come along and stopped him at that point, bad things would have happened ... so I think we owe a lot to Peter Pears. Storye book (talk) 16:56, 18 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Agree, - I didn't know that. - Thank you for the support, and to "create a role" means an opera singer performing it in the world premiere. I learned that from Voceditenore. - Thank you for the hook wordings! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
... and thank you again for your support for Tappy: on the Main page and my story today! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:47, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
I loved your "watch" link for Tappy. He did have a beautiful voice, and was a fine actor. And Monteverdi too. Bliss. Storye book (talk) 15:56, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
It helped that I did Rachel Yakar recently ;) - watch more if you missed it then - didn't dare to add them to the articles as perhaps not official --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:01, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oh, so romantic! And so rare. A beautiful performance from both. Storye book (talk) 16:22, 19 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Gerhard Klingenberg? - would you agree that just the face would be better for the infobox? I like hand expression but this one doesn't offer much. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:09, 20 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Must dash - a family birthday. Will look later - this evening or tomorrow. Storye book (talk) 10:39, 20 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Klingenberg done. Storye book (talk) 09:26, 21 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, on the Main page. - Yesterday, someone changed back to the long format but I reverted requesting a reason. - Ernst Pepping? - Today is a feast day for which Bach composed a chorale cantata in 1724 (and we had a DYK about it in 2012). Can't believe that Jodie Devos had to die, - don't miss her video from the Opéra-Comique at the end, - story to come. The weekend brought plenty of music sung and listened to, and some of it is reflected in the last two stories! + pics of good food with good company --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:17, 24 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Pepping done. Sorry to hear about Devos. Storye book (talk) 07:41, 25 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, thank you, and thank you for the generous donation of a qpq. I had simply planned to make her GA and nominate again. DYK is such an ungenerous place. Today Daniela Kerck, with a review questioning my ethics (because of using the English bio of the theatre as a ref, the only bio in English, and no answer to the question which bit in it would be "promotional"). Sigh. Don't miss the video of the trailer: much stronger storytelling than all hook words ;) - The image in my story is what I happened to see from my seat (in a performance before the festival when Anna Netrebko sang the title role, but sold out of course, and the other was possibly the icier Principessa anyway). I wrote the articles of Liu and the conductor earlier, - small (theatre) world. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:52, 25 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Do you have words for the Klingenberg nom? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:27, 30 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - June 2024

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DYK for Claude Hamilton Verity

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On 7 June 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Claude Hamilton Verity, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Claude Hamilton Verity, a grandson of Doncaster mayor Charles Verity, was an early pioneer of the synchronisation of sound with silent films? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Claude Hamilton Verity. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Claude Hamilton Verity), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for Charles Verity

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On 7 June 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Charles Verity, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Claude Hamilton Verity, a grandson of Doncaster mayor Charles Verity, was an early pioneer of the synchronisation of sound with silent films? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Claude Hamilton Verity. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Charles Verity), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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The Bugle: Issue 218, June 2024

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DYK nomination of Frances Darlington

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  Hello! Your submission of Frances Darlington at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:10, 29 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Women in Red August 2024

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July music

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The story is today about the first published composition by Arnold Schönberg which I was blessed to hear. Listen, and perhaps read what Alma Mahler (to-be-Mahler at the time, to be precise, who was present at the first performance) said, and yes that was too much for the Main page ;) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:27, 1 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Lando Bartolini? Could he still have a non-free image? There's this family pic, on which he is very small, and I can only guess he's the one on right. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:33, 2 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sorry I have not caught up with your messages in the last few days. Very busy. I have looked at online pictures of Bartolini, and I am sure he is the man on the left, not the right. Compare this profile of his nose. The man on the right cannot be Bartolini, because he does not have a straight, Roman nose. I don't think i could get away with replacing the free image with a non-free one, so I have cropped the existing image. I hope that's OK? At least we can identify him, now. Storye book (talk) 09:13, 2 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for the research, and I was also busy, too busy to look at the pic closely. - Today's story is about a Bach cantata premiered 300 years ago OTD. - A meeting of two women - the occasion of the cantata - is pictured in our local church. I was busy travelling, first pics there (Berlin), to be followed tomorrow by Kafka ;) - then Münster, Papenburg, Münster. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:49, 2 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Libuše Domanínská? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:27, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
[2] --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Domanínská done. Sorry I did not see your link until too late. I had chosen that picture because there are a lot of very different pictures of her out there - she was so versatile, acting different characters. I chose the 1970s one, in her performing years. That one seems to show her real character at that age? But if you want me to change it, I can do that. Storye book (talk) 09:23, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, and I love your find! (I only included a link because you had mentioned that it helps at some time.) - 3 July is the birthday of Leoš Janáček, and I'm happy I had a meaningful DYK in 2021 which was about a woman which you pictured! - It's also the birthday of Franz Kafka, and I uploaded pics from his family's album seen in Berlin. Proud to have had 2 women in green in June, and the third nom is in progress. - Could you please look into the Klingenberg nom? (just look, 5 hooks by now, but I don't like the striking - while I don't strike, just explain). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:49, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
OK, I will look, I keep forgetting, not near my PC right now. Storye book (talk) 14:15, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, no rush. --(forgot to sign)
Done. Storye book (talk) 15:24, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you ;) - "often" - what is the meaning of that word? how many times? - He directed 3 plays, often ... - Is that often? I'll not protest and find out at ERRORS. - It's tough to talk to people who don't know Schoenberg and Brecht, really. It's culture and generations, I guess. Thank you for the donation of a qpq, - I'll return it some day ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:38, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oh, I agree. Re Brecht and Schoenberg, I'm afraid that the Republicans have spent years trying to limit education in the US, and now their young people are growing up knowing very little about the Rest of the World. I think that probably most people outside the US have heard of those two great men, even if they don't know much about them. So DYK is maybe geared mostly to US readers. There is not much we can do about that. All very sad. Storye book (talk) 15:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
I refuse to get sad over this. - I get sad that a young woman dies. + Mr. Klingenberg, and a tenor and a bass and I forget about qpq. And there's real life. - They should just change the name of DYK which makes one feel it's about knowledge. It isn't - not anymore at least. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oh, yes, I agree. There should be space on DYK for everyone. But I do think that in some people there is a genuine terror of knowledge of particular subjects. That is not healthy when the terror is used to deny others their place on DYK.
It reminds me of when the Red Guards in China were burning books, and forcing academics to work in the fields. When I visited a Chinese university around 2001, the poetry students told me that they were allowed to study poetry because Mao had been a writer of poetry. But the students had to follow particular rules. They had to say that all poetry, including the most ancient poetry, was about Man and Nature. They were not allowed to say that some poetry might be an allegory of politics or philosophy. Interesting! Storye book (talk) 16:38, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes. (You have not approved ALT2. It takes a tick ;) ) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for having done it. You hopefully understand that I never pinged you to side with me, but to mediate. - Libuše Domanínská, the subject of yesterday's story, would have turned 100 today, but I missed that ;) - Overnight, Tamara Milashkina became GA and Lando Bartolini went to the Main page. I made my story about his almost unbelievable career, from Luigi in Il tabarro in Philadelphia in 1968 (with a nod to Liberty) up to Calaf in Turandot in Beijing in 1999 ;) - If I went to DYK we'd probably have to say that he learned electronics before deciding on opera, or that his brother died in car accident ... - 4 July is also the birthday of Brian Boulton who was a pioneer of a concise infobox in 2013. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:24, 4 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes, of course I understand. But some other people just don't want to understsnd that, because they are looking for conspiracies where there are none. They have said that they are reading this. There is a saying, that people who eavesdrop never hear good of themselves. Hehe. Storye book (talk) 13:08, 4 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Martti Wallén? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:16, 4 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Wallén done. Storye book (talk) 07:26, 5 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! - Volker David Kirchner? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Kirchner done. Storye book (talk) 09:44, 6 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you, another great job! - Judith Hemmendinger? Her photo was just deleted. A Yoninah article, - remembering the days when she practically ran DYK, and was interested in all topics. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:51, 9 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Hemmendinger done. Not a professional photo, but a nice, smiley one. Storye book (talk) 08:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, I like it! - Pictured on the Main page: Brian's Mozart family grand tour, my story today, and Mozart related to all three items of music on my talk: our 2023 concert, an opera in a theatre where a Mozart premiere took place, and those remembered, the bass and Liana Isakadze, a violinist from Georgia (whose article would be better with more details about her music-making). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:40, 9 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - July 2024

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DYK for Laura Veale

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On 7 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Laura Veale, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Laura Veale was the first woman to practise as a doctor in the town of Harrogate? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Laura Veale. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Laura Veale), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

PMC(talk) 00:03, 7 July 2024 (UTC)Reply