Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victoria Starmer

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The result was Draftify‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:31, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm not seeing evidence that the subject is independently notable of her husband, Keir Starmer. The existing article can be adequately summarised at his article. Still, we might expect more coverage if Starmer becomes Prime Minister, so it may be a question of WP:TOOSOON. Consequently, I would be content with Draftify as an alternative to deletion, assuming more sources may become available within six months that nudge the subject past the notability threshold. IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 08:39, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Health and fitness, Law, Politics, and United Kingdom. IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 08:39, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

At least, hopefully this AfD can resolve the notability tag currently on the article. IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 08:40, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@IgnatiusofLondon, hey there. As creator of the article, I have no objection to draftifying it. I found as much as I could on the subject while keeping in mind that it is highly likely we will get more information in a couple of weeks. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:29, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While understandable, the issue is that this exercise, completed too early, leads to trivia-collecting articles that violate policy. For example, the article contains the name of her sister, which likely fails WP:BLPNAME. There's no reason for her sister to be named if there is no independent notability. There is no deadline. IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 09:47, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Keir Starmer. This is the only way I can think of given there's no way for making this article notable. Galaxybeing (talk) 10:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Galaxybeing, for now at least. Hence why it should be draftified. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and England. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose if Keir Starmer becomes prime minister in a month, his wife will then meet notability guidelines? TrottieTrue (talk) 00:41, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should draftify the article. If Keir Starmer becomes PM after the gen election in July as widely expected, then Victoria Starmer will likely pass the notability criteria as the spouse of the PM and the draft can go into the mainspace. Until then, I don't think she is sufficiently notable enough for a standalone article. ThatRandomGuy1 (talk) 17:48, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What's the harm in keeping it if the husband's going to be the PM in a month. Isn't it busywork for the sake of protocol? galenIgh 04:32, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.