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Category:Dead or Alive (franchise) films

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Dead or Alive (film series). (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:42, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: To avoid confusion with the Dead or Alive video game franchise. Could also be deleted, as the films have a fairly loose connection between them. (Oinkers42) (talk) 20:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
May want to check on the suggested category name; you may have meant or rather than of. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 23:09, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Companies in the MSCI KLD 400 Social Index

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 01:50, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not a defining category -- one of many indices that these companies would be on. Index's own article doesn't demonstrate notability. Nat Gertler (talk) 19:54, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - MSCI literally publishes the inclusion criteria/methodology. A company wouldn't "just be on" a list like this (ie Apple isn't). It's exclusive enough (only about 10% of companies in the US). Only reason article doesn't list them all is because there's 400 of them. And that's what a category is for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.78.190.234 (talk) 20:24, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That might make it a defined category; that does not make it a defining category of the group's members, one that is likely to be mentioned by appropriate sources covering an individual member... which is the requirement for categorization. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 20:31, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, not a defining characteristic of a company. If anything, a list might be created, instead of a category. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:38, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. For this to be a useful category, when independent reliable sources (probably in the business press) are writing articles about companies that are in the index, those sources would have to mention that, for example, "Company X, a member of the MSCI KLD 400 Social Index, etc." or write articles noting that a company was added to or removed from the Index. Those sorts of mentions would have to be made in reliable sources of a company's inclusion in the Index in order to add a sentence to the article asserting as an important fact about the company that it is in the Index. Then enough such sentences in enough such articles would have to exist before it would make sense to have a category like this. This category in recent days has been added to dozens of articles and although I haven't looked at all of them, the articles I have looked at don't even mention in the body of the article that the company belongs to the Index. This means that the many editors who have worked on these many articles have hitherto not felt that being in the Index was a notable or important fact about the companies they were writing about which might be because reliable news sources don't mention it either, with respect to the companies that belong to the Index. Novellasyes (talk) 09:26, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    In the interest of clarity, I should note that the IP user who responded "Keep" above actually did add text mentioning the Index listing to dozens of articles about companies on the Index (in the wake of the category being deleted from a company's page because it was not mentioned in the text.) However, the source they were using was a promotional page for an Index-based fund on Blackrock, which is not only selling a fund based on the index but is one of the companies in the Index. As such, it is not truly an independent source... and even if it were, it's not a source for the listing of a company on the source being significant to that company. I reverted those additions, as so many links to a sales page add up to the strong scent of spam. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 17:03, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Okay got that thanks! Sorry I missed it. Big old mess, right? Novellasyes (talk) 17:49, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Bergey's volume 1

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 25#Category:Bergey's volume 1

Category:Divers from London, Ontario

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The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 00:52, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete; only one article. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:58, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Rugby league players by city or town in Namibia

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The result of the discussion was: delete HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 00:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete whole tree. Only one category which only has one article. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:49, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:White Southerners (United States)

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 00:51, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining category. Half of Americans could conceivably belong to this group. First two applications of this cat (Confederados, Jefferson Davis) demonstrate the user's intention. This new category is associated with category creator's reverted new versions of White Southerners article. BusterD (talk) 13:45, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:51, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lists of Emmerdale characters

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The result of the discussion was: keep. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 00:50, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I feel as though that renaming it to 'Category:List of Emmerdale characters'. Reason (rationale) is because I feel as though 'list' makes more sense than 'lists', but idk if the grammar/title is in a correct format so I am brining it to discussion. JuniperChill (talk) 12:35, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - This is not a list of characters, it is a category containing the "lists" of characters and hence should not be renamed. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 13:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, the category contains multiple lists. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Athletes by location in Greece

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  Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 June 25#Category:Athletes by location in Greece

Category:Plague doctor

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Plague doctors. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 00:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Selective merge/major purge. Only two of the pages actually fit in this category; the rest are medical professionals who treated the plague. Mason (talk) 01:48, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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