Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/TimedText pages without timestamps

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: delete. ✗plicit 23:59, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

TimedText pages without timestamps

These 144 pages are TimedText pages which are supposed to give captions to sound files. The problem is that these pages do not contain timestamps and thus no captions can be displayed. --Trialpears (talk) 20:51, 3 January 2022 (UTC) Pages are tagged using a plain text comment since categories and templates don't work in TimedText namespace.[reply]

Delete all per nom. I've been on-and-off working on cleaning up the TimedText namespace for a while but I simply have not had the time to replace all of these pages with valid TimedTexts. They serve no utility as they are either just copies of song lyrics (which could be obtained easily, and as copyvios we shouldn't be hosting anyway) or test pages (which obviously are not helpful here). Deletion will be done with no prejudice to recreation with actual useful content. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:37, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: These pages are a mixture between broken and copyright violations. Considering the massive amount of them, the linked TimedText pages that do not violate copyright should be deleted to make room for valid ones. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 01:15, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Two layered deletion vote for me:

Keep files under 500 bytes. They are not large enough to contain the whole lyric of the song. Even one of the shortest ones, TimedText:Tlk helivesinu tlkob.ogg.en.srt only contains the lyrics present in the clip. Those are 116 pages, the majority of the pages up for deletion. There is no deadline to finish those.

Delete files over 500 bytes, as they would include too large of an section of the lyrics, unproportionate to the clip.--Snævar (talk) 12:46, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Snævar actually I don't think even that's acceptable from a copyright perspective. These lyrics should all be for non-free content (otherwise they would be on commons) and thus need to fit under fair use which the files these belong to do. But to fit under fair use the content actually have to be used in articles which isn't the case here since they are broken. I'm not an expert on copyright or NFCC, but I'm fairly confident even the short ones are problematic from a copyright perspective. --Trialpears (talk) 13:49, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In order for fair use to be applicable, the lyrics would have to be used for a valid purpose by Wikipedia. That does not appear to the case here. ―Susmuffin ^Talk 18:05, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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