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== Set 491 to disallow ==
== Prevent users from adding middle fingers in user space ==
{{archive top|Seeing no objections and general consensus to this, {{done}}. [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 17:43, 7 July 2024 (UTC)}}
I think 491 end ! To disallow [[Special:Contributions/128.234.101.4|128.234.101.4]] ([[User talk:128.234.101.4|talk]]) 10:23, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
:Wouldn't be against it, though warn seems to already be working fairly well. Basically, I see the technical accuracy, but not the necessity of setting it to disallow. [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 20:36, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
:I would '''support disallow''' in this case, as it seems to be doing its job pretty well and we want this junk out of our articles. – <b>[[User:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#78866b">Pharyngeal</span><span style="color:#6495ed">Implosive7</span>]] [[User talk:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#7f1734">(talk)</span>]]</b> 01:15, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
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== Edit filter helper for Codename Noreste (third nomination) ==
Per subject, personally I feel that middle finger emoji is inappropriate Wikipedia itself, noting how it is often [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Fazily&oldid=1221857273 used for talk page vandalism], I suggest here after a [[User talk:Oshwah#Edit filter missing?|talk]] that filter 680 (or any other appropriate filter) should block middle finger emojis (and potentially other emojis being added by non-autoconfirmed/IP) from userspace, not just mainspace. [[User:AlphaBetaGamma|ABG]] ([[User talk:AlphaBetaGamma|Talk/Report any mistakes here]]) 01:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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:I recommend adding it to {{efl|1053}} and have a possible filter change, if any EFM wants to take a look mail me. [[User:1AmNobody24|<span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;background-color: #4D4DFF;color: white">Nobody</span>]] ([[User talk:1AmNobody24|<span style="color: #4D4DFF">talk</span>]]) 06:53, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
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::{{re|1AmNobody24}} Is [[Special:AbuseFilter/history/1053/diff/prev/32450|this]] what you had in mind? [[User:Suffusion of Yellow|Suffusion of Yellow]] ([[User talk:Suffusion of Yellow|talk]]) 21:52, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Suffusion of Yellow|Suffusion of Yellow]] Not exactly, sent you a mail. [[User:1AmNobody24|<span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;background-color: #4D4DFF;color: white">Nobody</span>]] ([[User talk:1AmNobody24|<span style="color: #4D4DFF">talk</span>]]) 05:14, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
,[[User:|<span style="-:;color:"></span>]] ([[User talk:| ]]) :, 13 2024 (UTC)
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::::I've added this condition to [[Special:AbuseFilter/53|filter 53]]; it'll flag edits that add this emoji to ''any namespace''. [[User:Oshwah|<b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b>]]<sup><small><b>[[User_talk:Oshwah|<span style="color:blue">(talk)</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Oshwah|<span style="color:green">(contribs)</span>]]</b></small></sup> 01:59, 2 June 2024 (UTC)


== Requesting Edit filter helper rights ==
{{atop|There's no consensus for granting EFH at this time. Concerns seems to centre on the first criterion at [[WP:EFHCRITERIA]], which is a "Demonstrated need for access" .. with minimal filter involvement both here and at other wikis. More experience with public filters is encouraged. -- [[user:zzuuzz|zzuuzz]] <sup>[[user_talk:zzuuzz|(talk)]]</sup> 10:57, 10 June 2024 (UTC)}}


{{rfplinks|Sakura emad}}


:{{rfplinks|Codename Noreste}}
Hi,<br/>I am requesting Edit Filter Helper rights to aid in expanding and enhancing the quality and experience of AbuseFilter on the CKB Wikipedia. <br/>I aim to learn from the English Wikipedia's approach to improve ckbwiki's filters and its effectiveness. also i have a good understanding of account security. and as an extended confirmed editor and reviewer on the English Wikipedia, I believe that i have sufficient English understanding and proficiency.<br/>Additionally, I am an interface-admin and sysop on ckbwiki and hold various rights across multiple WMF projects, demonstrating my trustworthiness and capability.<br/>Thanks<span id="Sakura_emad:1717220841604:WikipediaFTTCLNEdit_filter_noticeboard" class="FTTCmt"> [[User:Sakura emad|—— 🌸 Sakura emad 💖]] ([[User talk:Sakura emad|talk]]) 05:47, 1 June 2024 (UTC)</span>
:'''Question'''<s>Neutral</s> You've satisfied the bar (probably?) for trust. I'm more interested on if you'd be able to elaborate on your working with filters on your homewiki. I've tried to check for your contributions to filters over there, but everything about the AbuseFilter is locked down on CKB, and so it's pretty hard to examine any work you've done with filters without being in the GAFH usergroup. Your rights on CKBwiki are currently sysop and interface admin, the latter of which doesn't relate to the AbuseFilter extension on CKBwiki (Another group, "Interface editors", appears to be the local equivalent of non-admin edit filter manager on CKB?), and the former of which doesn't ''necessarily'' indicate work with the edit filter by default. [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 07:25, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
::Correction, only admins on ckbwiki can modify filters, based on looking at the ListGroupRights special page over there. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''La Suma''</span>]] 20:44, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
:::As far as I can tell, the <code>abusefilter-modify</code> right is available to interface editors (not interface administrators, despite the commonality of naming) as well as admins. [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 18:56, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:*To provide some input and context: I was approached by Sakura about some of our edit filters on the Wikipedia Community Discord (which is off-wiki). Her original request to me was for the regex code for the private edit filters that I created and manage ([[Special:AbuseFilter/51|51]], [[Special:AbuseFilter/53|53]]). Obviously, that didn't and really can't happen. The conditions and methods I use in those filters to efficiently identify and tag abuse would be ''significantly compromised'' if any of the regex code were to fall into the wrong hands. I do trust [[User:Sakura emad|Sakura emad]] and I do believe that she is doing this to try and improve the chb-wiki's filter rules. But, as you all know, if a mistake or mishandling of the code were to occur (such as accidentally being made public in a change, etc), you can't ''"get the cat back into the bag once set loose"''. Hence, I suggested she gather demonstrable experience from her contributions and create a request for [[WP:EFH|edit filter helper]] instead. When I asked Sakura on the wiki discord about her level of experience with regex and with modifying filter rules, she responded, ''"i ''[sic]'' send most of them to https://ckb.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:aram ''[sic]''"'' and that ''"he is ckb technican"''. I was able to review the edit filters on the ckb-wiki as well as her level of involvement with them, and her contributions don't show much in that manner. Since I was approached by her off-wiki (Wikipedia Community Discord), I'm just going to add the information and facts about this request. I hope the information I provided is useful either way. [[User:Oshwah|<b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b>]]<sup><small><b>[[User_talk:Oshwah|<span style="color:blue">(talk)</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Oshwah|<span style="color:green">(contribs)</span>]]</b></small></sup> 02:23, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:Have you tried asking for the contents of individual private filters? Are there any specific filters in your mind? I also note that I can't view the logs for abuse filters on ckbwiki without being confirmed. <span style="font-family:Iosevka,monospace">0x[[User:0xDeadbeef|<span style="text-transform:uppercase;color:black">'''Deadbeef'''</span>]]</span>→∞ ([[User talk:0xDeadbeef#top|talk to me]]) 10:44, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
::[[User:0xDeadbeef|0xDeadbeef]]- [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]], I've learned quite a few things from my experiences on the English and Simple Wikipedia. My adminship, particularly on Simple Wikipedia, has been crucial in shaping the admin I am today. Most of my experiences i've got came from these wikis, and the admins that helped me. even my global rollback right came from the experience of fighting and preventing vandalism on simplewiki. Given this background, it's clear that much of what I've learned did not come from ckbwiki alone. I believe that learning from the English Wikipedia’s approach to edit filters will greatly enhance my ability to improve and work on the current abusefilter on ckbwiki. I am committed to respect and responsibly use the rights I am granted.<br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>I have reviewed WP:EFH, especially the [[WP:EFHCRITERIA]] and the "Common use cases" on [[Wikipedia:Edit filter helper#Common use cases|that page]]. I meet the requirements and specifically fit the second case under common use cases, as someone working with edit filters on another WMF wiki who wants to learn from the English Wikipedia's experience and approach.<br/>Thanks<span id="Sakura_emad:1717259524912:WikipediaFTTCLNEdit_filter_noticeboard" class="FTTCmt"> [[User:Sakura emad|—— 🌸 Sakura emad 💖]] ([[User talk:Sakura emad|talk]]) 16:32, 1 June 2024 (UTC)</span>
:::You don't have adminship on Simple, as far as I can tell...you have rollback, but that is far from any work with the AbuseFilter outside of CKBwiki, which you still have yet to elaborate on your work regarding. [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 20:22, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
::::[[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]], let me clarify-; What I meant is that if it were not for my experiences on simplewiki in dealing with vandalism, deletion requests, etc. i wouldn't be the admin i am today on ckbwiki. Of course, it is obvious that I am not an admin on simplewiki my global status is already in public knowledge.<span id="Sakura_emad:1717308486925:WikipediaFTTCLNEdit_filter_noticeboard" class="FTTCmt"> [[User:Sakura emad|—— 🌸 Sakura emad 💖]] ([[User talk:Sakura emad|talk]]) 06:08, 2 June 2024 (UTC)</span>
:::::I think EggRol97 is asking you to talk about what you have used the abuse filter for in CKBwiki itself, so could you elaborate on that? – <b>[[User:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#78866b">Pharyngeal</span><span style="color:#6495ed">Implosive7</span>]] [[User talk:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#7f1734">(talk)</span>]]</b> 21:59, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
:{{u|Sakura emad}}, do you also intend to help with filters on enwiki, now that you work with filters on ckbwiki as an administrator over there? I'm also curious about your regex knowledge in relation to edit filters here and there. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''La Suma''</span>]] 17:11, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
::[[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]], Yes i would love to, actually. But i believe that i have to gain more experience first. Then I'd be happy to contribute on both WMF projects. <br/>Thanks<span id="Sakura_emad:1717309488445:WikipediaFTTCLNEdit_filter_noticeboard" class="FTTCmt"> [[User:Sakura emad|—— 🌸 Sakura emad 💖]] ([[User talk:Sakura emad|talk]]) 06:24, 2 June 2024 (UTC)</span>
:::However, based on what Oshwah said in this context, it's pretty clear that you should gain much more experience with edit filters here, as well as your edit count. There are the public filters in which you can help here, and I'm not sure if your need requires access to private filters, in which most of those filters are ''private'' because of specific LTAs on this project, and some are hidden as well because the logs can contain personal information and/or other stuff that should ''not'' be made public. So because of ER97 and Ingenuity, I'm gonna have to '''oppose''' your EFH request at this time. Sorry. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''La Suma''</span>]] 18:59, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*What kinds of private filters are you looking to access? Most relevant filters (614, 384, etc.) are already public. —[[User:Ingenuity|Ingenuity]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Ingenuity#top|t]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contribs/Ingenuity|c]]) 22:41, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
::[[User:Ingenuity|Ingenuity]] - I just added some information and context in this discussion that will answer your question. [[User:Oshwah|<b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b>]]<sup><small><b>[[User_talk:Oshwah|<span style="color:blue">(talk)</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Oshwah|<span style="color:green">(contribs)</span>]]</b></small></sup> 02:33, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' Based on the information given by Oshwah through off-wiki contact, I don't have much confidence that the requestor is actively involved with edit filter work on their homewiki. [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 03:10, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
**[[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]], I understand the concern about my activity level with edit filters. I am working on them actually, but my limited experience and knowledge mean my contributions might not be as visible as expected of me yet. as you know Abusefilters are highly sensitive matter, and i just can't make changes for learning or experimentation. That's why my activity might not appear as high, but i do work on them on ckbwiki to the best of my current abilities.<span id="Sakura_emad:1717310744771:WikipediaFTTCLNEdit_filter_noticeboard" class="FTTCmt"> [[User:Sakura emad|—— 🌸 Sakura emad 💖]] ([[User talk:Sakura emad|talk]]) 06:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)</span>
***Much of the problem is that we can't see your contributions to CKBwiki's edit filters, and even if you were to post the logs publicly, it wouldn't be verifiable since it's not the actual logs themselves. A lot of it as well is that you still haven't elaborated either here or to the mailing list (which only contains EFH/EFM/sysops and where you could easily disclose any private filter contributions on CKBwiki that might not be best to post publicly) about your work on edit filters. Further, having seen the edit filters you requested from Oshwah, the contents of those filters are ''extremely'' sensitive to any type of outside access, and so are a lot of the other private filters, with one of them being traditionally information that would be oversighted if it wasn't a private filter. [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 18:55, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
****[[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]], are you suggesting that my request for 'extremely sensitive' filters implies an intention to harm the community? Out of the 54 abuse filters on ckbwiki, 10 are under my name. I need this right specifically to improve the quality of abuse filters on ckbwiki and contribute to them effectively. My account age is almost 4 years. Also regardless of contributions and Group-rights promotions i've received on ckb, please check CentralAuth—my home wiki is not ckbwiki, it is Enwiki. <br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>Oshwah failed to mention that I asked for 3 filters back then; I didn't specifically ask for his filters, but because he was the only admin I reached out to, 2 of the 3 filters were his. The reason I asked for the filters that Oshwah made was purely for improvement and gaining experience, since they were the only private filters at the time that I thought ckbwiki didn't have and that I needed to learn from, for the benefit of both projects in the future. Do you think Oshwah would have assisted me with the requesting procedure if he didn't trust me with abuse filters?<span id="Sakura_emad:1717360216980:WikipediaFTTCLNEdit_filter_noticeboard" class="FTTCmt"> [[User:Sakura emad|—— 🌸 Sakura emad 💖]] ([[User talk:Sakura emad|talk]]) 20:30, 2 June 2024 (UTC)</span><br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>Before requesting anything, I carefully examined the vital details of [[Wikipedia:Edit filter helper]] and only requested this right after I fully understood that I meet the requirements mentioned and that I'm fit for the position. Reading "Those working with edit filters on another WMF wiki who want to learn from the English Wikipedia's experience," I believe I did what I was guided to do. These opposes are unexpected for me since I don't know what regulations or rules I broke.<span id="Sakura_emad:1717360216980:WikipediaFTTCLNEdit_filter_noticeboard" class="FTTCmt"> [[User:Sakura emad|—— 🌸 Sakura emad 💖]] ([[User talk:Sakura emad|talk]]) 20:30, 2 June 2024 (UTC)</span>
*****I suggested nothing of the sort. See [[WP:EFHCRITERIA]], {{talk quote inline|This is a highly specialized right that is routinely denied even to experienced editors...Meeting all the above criteria does not guarantee a request will obtain consensus support to pass}}, and I don't believe you have a demonstrated need currently to see private filters. [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 22:05, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
******[[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]], I believe I have repeatedly stated that I am working on improving the quality of ckbwiki abusefilters. If this doesn't demonstrate my commitment, then what else does?, however, it seems, Showing demonstration does not necessarily equate to being seen as one.<span id="Sakura_emad:1717390484855:WikipediaFTTCLNEdit_filter_noticeboard" class="FTTCmt"> [[User:Sakura emad|—— 🌸 Sakura emad 💖]] ([[User talk:Sakura emad|talk]]) 04:54, 3 June 2024 (UTC)</span>
*******You have stated that, yes, but the modification log for CKBwiki's filters is hidden to almost everyone here, and your only specific comment about your work on them is what you said to Oshwah, which is that you send fixes to someone else. So all we really have to go on here is your own word. [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 18:46, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per EggRoll. I also don't really see why access to private filters is needed. —[[User:Ingenuity|Ingenuity]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Ingenuity#top|t]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contribs/Ingenuity|c]]) 14:33, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
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== Set filter 1311 to disallow? ==
| year = 2024
| month = 07
| day = 13
| hour = 03
| minute = 48
| event = the earliest closure
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Hello, everyone. This has been a few months after my failed nomination back in February, but after I have addressed your concerns seriously, I am requesting the edit filter helper right again. But this time, I now intend to assist with writing filters using my basic knowledge of regular expressions.
* {{efl|1311}} ("LTA 1311", private)
Should be self explanatory. Private really means private here. Please do not even ''allude'' to what it's doing. [[User:Suffusion of Yellow|Suffusion of Yellow]] ([[User talk:Suffusion of Yellow|talk]]) 20:14, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:Looks fine, but needs ''very'' close monitoring (trying to be highly vague here, but I agree it's best to have this on disallow). [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 21:54, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
:Support disallow, was going to be a neutral but then I read up on who LTA 1311 is --[[User:DannyS712|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712|talk]]) 02:19, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
:I'm not sure disallow is the best option. I would like to maximize the chances that it will continue to work for a long while. [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] ([[User talk:Daniel Quinlan|talk]]) 00:17, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
::Edited my previous comment for clarity. [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] ([[User talk:Daniel Quinlan|talk]]) 20:04, 6 June 2024 (UTC)


I have proposed additions to filter {{edit filter links|936}} (implemented by {{noping|Suffusion of Yellow}} via email), and I have written and requested updates on {{edit filter links|1292}} (a global filter that tracks 1292's target was implemented on Meta as [[m:Special:AbuseFilter/344|344 (Meta admins only)]]) and {{edit filter links|1308}} (both filters are maintained by {{noping|Ingenuity}} except the global filter, in which that global filter is maintained by {{noping|SHB2000}} on Meta), and {{edit filter links|1313}}. Given these filters' sensitive detection strategies, I do not intend to discuss their details on public or outside of the edit filter mailing list.
== Do you think this warrants a filter? ==


With respect to account security and nonpublic information, I use a strong password and have 2FA enabled on my main account, and I have signed the confidentiality agreement for nonpublic information ([[:m:Special:Diff/26642540|verify]]).
A new account suspiciously added [[Special:Diff/1227509479|10 thousand bytes]] ([[Special:Diff/1227522396|my removal]]) of an invisible character to one of the templates at ANI when they made a reply. They also added them to their userpage just before that.<br>
I know this is probably crafty vandalism that only happens once in a while, if at all, but I don't think there's any legitimate reason that anyone would want to add more than a handful of invisible characters (if any invisible characters at all). &ndash; [[Special:Contributions/2804:F14:80BE:B501:C033:1C2F:5D84:A79C|2804:F14:80BE:B501:C033:1C2F:5D84:A79C]] ([[User talk:2804:F14:80BE:B501:C033:1C2F:5D84:A79C|talk]]) 07:52, 6 June 2024 (UTC)


:This looks like it could also benefit from a software fix. I've filed private ticket [[phab:T366777]]. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 08:59, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
. [[User: |<span style="color:">''' '''</span>]] [[User talk: |</> :, 6 2024 (UTC)
:That user was blocked indefinitely by {{noping|Spicy}} as a sockpuppet. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 03:50, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
::Clarification: by that user, Codename Noreste meant the vandalizing user, not the IP posting the request. – <b>[[User:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#78866b">Pharyngeal</span><span style="color:#6495ed">Implosive7</span>]] [[User talk:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#7f1734">(talk)</span>]]</b> 06:28, 7 June 2024 (UTC)


=== Discussion ===
== Request to remove a user from filter 856's line 8 ==
*'''Strong support''' – I've worked with Codename Noreste pretty much ever since I became an admin on Meta and his work on edit filters is priceless. He's also very proactive on maintenance, which is critical for EFH. --[[User:SHB2000|SHB2000]] ([[User talk:SHB2000|talk]]) 04:13, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
*'''Support''' I have seen their impressive work in this area and had conversations with them on Discord, where they showed strong regex skills. I trust them with EFH. – [[User:DreamRimmer|<b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b>]] ('''[[User talk:DreamRimmer|talk]]''') 07:16, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Seems fine, and I've seen them around working with filters a lot. [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 15:27, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
*'''Support''' - Seems to be a good fit for this role. – <b>[[User:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#78866b">Pharyngeal</span><span style="color:#6495ed">Implosive7</span>]] [[User talk:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#7f1734">(talk)</span>]]</b> 22:31, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
*'''Support'''. Happy to see this. I've already been sharing a few private filters with Codename Noreste, and fully trust him with this right. [[User:Suffusion of Yellow|Suffusion of Yellow]] ([[User talk:Suffusion of Yellow|talk]]) 22:42, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
*The earliest closure has started. Would an admin grant the right? – <b>[[User:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#78866b">Pharyngeal</span><span style="color:#6495ed">Implosive7</span>]] [[User talk:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#7f1734">(talk)</span>]]</b> 04:53, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
{{abot}}


== Edit filter 53 ==
Please remove {{noping|Vami IV}} from [[Special:AbuseFilter/856|filter 856]]'s line 8 (copyvio clerks) because that user has passed away. Thank you. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 19:06, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}} -- [[user:zzuuzz|zzuuzz]] <sup>[[user_talk:zzuuzz|(talk)]]</sup> 19:58, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
::Did other cleanup there, the current list of names is useless, and the group is really the right way to handle that anyway. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 12:20, 10 June 2024 (UTC)


I'm just sending an FYI that one of my updates to this filter accidentally added a | at the very end of one of the string variables (it causes ALL edits to be flagged as a hit). It was caught and fixed two minutes later. Any false positive notifications regarding this filter can be closed as 'resolved'. [[User:Oshwah|<b><span style="color:#C00000">~Oshwah~</span></b>]]<sup><small><b>[[User_talk:Oshwah|<span style="color:blue">(talk)</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Oshwah|<span style="color:green">(contribs)</span>]]</b></small></sup> 12:35, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
== A quick thought: Should [[WP:EFM]] be a page instead of a section? ==


:And that, fellow users, is why EFMs are recommended to test their updates thoroughly before implementing said updates to any filter. There is the test interface in which admins, edit filter helpers and managers can access, or there's [[User:Suffusion of Yellow/batchtest-plus]] but you still need the same permissions to access that interface, just so that you can also use that script. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 16:55, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
I've wondered for a while whether [[WP:EFM]] should be an actual page (similar to [[WP:EFH]]), rather than just a section on the edit filter page. Does anyone have any thoughts about whether this might break [[WP:CREEP]], or whether this might be beneficial? [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 01:34, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
:Perhaps if it weren't for [[special:diff/1230287689|my sudden curiosity about such edit filters]], this could have gone unnoticed.[[Special:Contributions/102.159.221.21|102.159.221.21]] ([[User talk:102.159.221.21|talk]]) 04:50, 12 July 2024 (UTC)


== Should global abuse filter helpers have access to the private filter mailing list? ==
:At this point, yea - I've been meaning to do it forever and just kept putting it off. Feel free to draft something modeled on [[Wikipedia:Edit filter helper]]. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 02:06, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
::I don't object to this thought at all, but it's also worth noting that administrators can only modify edit filters that use restricted actions, as well as being able to enable such actions on filters. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 03:34, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
:::Will do, though functionally the only restricted action is <code>block-autopromote</code>, which hasn't been used in over a decade, and would likely need multiple discussions to just have a single filter with it enabled anyways. [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 21:31, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Xaosflux|Codename Noreste}} Thoughts on what I've whipped up currently at [[Wikipedia:Edit filter manager]]? [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 23:50, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] the revocation criteria prob need work, as it is generally not appropriate for admins to just remove this from other admins, as opposed to the non-admin EFMs. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 23:59, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
:::If this is going to contain any changes from the current content that are meaningful, like criteria for revocation, we should have a slightly more formal discussion/approval of the changes. E.g. "The editor has failed to report to an administrator after noticing unauthorized use of their account..." - if I were ever to notice unauthorized use of my account, I don't think I would be reporting it to admins on each wiki I have advanced rights. I would change my passwords and probably mention it to stewards, perform a crosswiki audit of every action performed recently, and likely reach out to the WMF security team since I have 2FA and would be curious how someone had bypassed it, but why do I need to tell an enwiki admin if when compromised the account didn't make any changes on enwiki? --[[User:DannyS712|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712|talk]]) 01:00, 21 June 2024 (UTC)


Just another thought today, but because global abuse filter helpers can view every single filter on every project (whether public or private) including the English Wikipedia, I was wondering if we could at least give them access to the edit filter mailing list on lists.wikimedia.org. They might share some other private (including LTA) filters from other wikis, including non-content projects such as Meta. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 17:58, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
== Request to change line 4 of filter 98 ==
:If they request it, I see no problems, but as far as I know they usually don't. [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 20:07, 6 July 2024 (UTC)


== [[:Wikipedia:Edit filter manager]] has an [[WP:RFC|RfC]]==
{{efl|98}} (Creating very short new article, public)


<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning orange.svg|48px|alt=|link=]]</div>'''[[:Wikipedia:Edit filter manager]]''' has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the '''[[Wikipedia talk:Edit filter manager#RfC about the status of this page|discussion page]]'''.<!-- Template:Rfc notice--> Thank you. [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 19:03, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Per [[Wikipedia:Edit filter/Traps and pitfalls#user_rights]], I would suggest changing <code>!"extendedconfirmed" in user_rights &</code> on line 4 with <code>!contains_any(user_groups, "extendedconfirmed", "sysop", "bot") &</code> because of this: {{tq|but this will not work as expected if the user did not grant editprotected when setting up a bot password.}}. <code>user_rights</code> may be limited if the user has logged in using a bot password, or is editing with an OAuth application. Thank you. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 00:41, 21 June 2024 (UTC)


== EFH nomination for PharyngealImplosive7 (second nomination) ==
:@[[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] {{done}}, nice catch: [[Special:AbuseFilter/history/98/diff/prev/32847]] --[[User:DannyS712|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712|talk]]) 00:57, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

:{{rfplinks|PharyngealImplosive7}}
:[[WP:Edit filter noticeboard/Archive 12#EFH for PharyngealImplosive7|Link to my previous nomination]] (withdrawn).
:Pinging the admin who closed the last nomination: @[[User:0xDeadbeef|0xDeadbeef]].

:{{countdown
| year = 2024
| month = 07
| day = 14
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Hello everyone. Back in February, I had my last self-nom for EFH. I was relatively new in general, and even newer to the edit filter space. As I've reflected on that failed nomination, I've tried to take in to account your feedback and I think that now I have a much more solid nomination.

First of all, I have made about ~1100 edits to [[WP:EFFPR]], and have tried to be as cautious as possible while clerking all reports, private and not. (as can be seen on xtools: [https://xtools.wmcloud.org/topedits/en.wikipedia.org/PharyngealImplosive7/4/Edit%20filter/False%20positives/Reports]). I also have made numerous contributions to filters, such as helping to create the private filter {{efl|1313}} (courtesy ping to @[[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]] to our conversation over email, before he sent the code we made together to the mailing list for further improvements), as well as the public filter {{efl|1298}}. I also helped create some regex for the private filter {{efl|1161}} (to enforce [[WP:DADASAHEB]]). I've also made quite a few minor improvements to filters {{efl|54}}, {{efl|614}}, and a few others, but they all help catch unwanted edits that wouldn't have been otherwise. I believe that these examples can show that I have enough experience in regex that I can help author filters on this wiki.

I know the responsibility of this user right and know the sensitivity of private filters. As a result, if I gain this permission, I will only discuss information about private filters on the mailing list. I also care a lot about security, and although I don't have 2FA enabled, I do have a strong password, so I think that is highly unlikely that my account will be compromised. I also have signed the access to nonpublic information agreement ([[:m:Special:Diff/26090538|verify]]).

I thank everyone for their participation and feedback last time, as it helped me get a better sense for the gravity of this permission. Thank you in advance. – <b>[[User:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#78866b">Pharyngeal</span><span style="color:#6495ed">Implosive7</span>]] [[User talk:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#7f1734">(talk)</span>]]</b> 23:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
=== Support ===
*'''Support''' as last time, trusted and competent editor. – [[User:DreamRimmer|<b style="color:black; font-family: Tahoma">DreamRimmer</b>]] ('''[[User talk:DreamRimmer|talk]]''') 15:39, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
*No objections here unlike last time, and you would be a good fit for this high-trust role. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 16:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

=== Oppose ===
=== Neutral ===
*Not seeing the need so far, sadly. Some concrete examples of substantial involvement with regex/edit filter code would help my confidence, but the single hit in the mailing list doesn't say much. <span style="font-family:Iosevka,monospace">0x[[User:0xDeadbeef|<span style="text-transform:uppercase;color:black">'''Deadbeef'''</span>]]</span>→∞ ([[User talk:0xDeadbeef#top|talk to me]]) 12:40, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
*:Just sent you an email about I private filter I'm in the process of creating with the help of [[User:Codename Noreste|Codename Noreste]]. – <b>[[User:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#78866b">Pharyngeal</span><span style="color:#6495ed">Implosive7</span>]] [[User talk:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#7f1734">(talk)</span>]]</b> 17:14, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

=== Discussion ===
* '''Questions:''' {{u|PharyngealImplosive7}}, aside from 1313, I have a couple of questions for you:
# Have you sent private filter regex updates to the mailing list or to an EFM?
# Do you intend to create a private filter that you can send to an EFM or to the mailing list?
If so, please explain them in a non-beansy manner. Thank you. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 00:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

:1. No. I have not besides for 1313. I only helped create thee other private filter I worked on, 1161. However, I do plan to do so in the future.
:2. Yes in fact! I have a few ideas kicking around in my head, but my most developed one is for BBB. – <b>[[User:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#78866b">Pharyngeal</span><span style="color:#6495ed">Implosive7</span>]] [[User talk:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#7f1734">(talk)</span>]]</b> 00:20, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
::There are already some filters trying to track what you said in number 2, and that's all what I'm allowed to say in public. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 16:53, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Ok thanks for letting me know. – <b>[[User:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#78866b">Pharyngeal</span><span style="color:#6495ed">Implosive7</span>]] [[User talk:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#7f1734">(talk)</span>]]</b> 17:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
* If you're willing to share, is there any specific reason you don't have 2FA enabled? While it's not a requirement for EFH (and isn't a formal requirement outside of interface admins), I'm curious to know if there's a reason, or if it's just that you haven't necessarily turned it on (I'm aware it's not available unless a steward activates the global group). [[User:EggRoll97|EggRoll97]] <sup>([[User_talk:EggRoll97|talk]]) </sup> 18:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
*:Yeah. I just haven't turned it on, because I haven't asked a steward yet to enable it. I don't really have a specific reason besides that I haven't done it yet, though if I get sesnitive perms like this one, I'll think about enabling it. – <b>[[User:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#78866b">Pharyngeal</span><span style="color:#6495ed">Implosive7</span>]] [[User talk:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#7f1734">(talk)</span>]]</b> 18:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

== Page protection ==

I protected [[Wikipedia:Edit filter/False positives/Reports]] for <s>1 day</s> 3 hours due to persistent vandalism from multiple accounts. {{u|Ohnoitsjamie}} and other administrators, please feel free to lift the protection earlier at your discretion. [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] ([[User talk:Daniel Quinlan|talk]]) 03:26, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

:Good protection, but it looks like these diffs ([[Special:Diff/1233248166]], [[Special:Diff/1233232866]], [[Special:Diff/1233232682]], and others with more than 100,000 text bytes added) will need to be revision-deleted because of disruptive Zalgo text. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 03:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
::Done. [[User:Daniel Quinlan|Daniel Quinlan]] ([[User talk:Daniel Quinlan|talk]]) 04:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

== Set 365 To Warn? ==
{{Atop|OP blocked, and consensus against. –[[User:Novem Linguae|<span style="color:blue">'''Novem Linguae'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:Novem Linguae|talk]])</small> 13:42, 9 July 2024 (UTC)}}
*{{Edit filter|365}}
365 unusual changes to featured or good content i think to warn [[Special:Contributions/51.235.113.220|51.235.113.220]] ([[User talk:51.235.113.220|talk]]) 07:09, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

:What's the point of requesting changes to random filters and at the same time being disruptive elsewhere (in filter logs and edits)? This is the third time I've seen you do this ([[Special:Contribs/128.234.127.100|1st]], [[Special:Contribs/128.234.101.4|2nd]]), and while the second one resulted in a filter being set to disallow, your disruption does not seem worth it. &ndash; [[Special:Contributions/2804:F14:8081:3201:68BD:7960:8513:E752|2804:F1...13:E752]] ([[User talk:2804:F14:8081:3201:68BD:7960:8513:E752|talk]]) 08:23, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' I see no good reason for this change. [[User:1AmNobody24|<span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;background-color: #4D4DFF;color: white">Nobody</span>]] ([[User talk:1AmNobody24|<span style="color: #4D4DFF">talk</span>]]) 08:58, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''': no good reason provided. – <b>[[User:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#78866b">Pharyngeal</span><span style="color:#6495ed">Implosive7</span>]] [[User talk:PharyngealImplosive7|<span style="color:#7f1734">(talk)</span>]]</b> 14:18, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
:'''Strong oppose''' per everyone, no reason was provided. [[User:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0024FF">'''''Codename Noreste'''''</span>]] 🤔 [[User talk:Codename Noreste|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0A16A5">''Talk''</span>]] 13:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
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    Set 491 to disallow[edit]

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    I think 491 end ! To disallow 128.234.101.4 (talk) 10:23, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Wouldn't be against it, though warn seems to already be working fairly well. Basically, I see the technical accuracy, but not the necessity of setting it to disallow. EggRoll97 (talk) 20:36, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I would support disallow in this case, as it seems to be doing its job pretty well and we want this junk out of our articles. – PharyngealImplosive7 (talk) 01:15, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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    Edit filter helper for Codename Noreste (third nomination)[edit]

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.



    Codename Noreste (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · rfar · spi · cci) (assign permissions)(acc · ap · ev · fm · mms · npr · pm · pc · rb · te)
    The earliest closure has started. (refresh)

    Hello, everyone. This has been a few months after my failed nomination back in February, but after I have addressed your concerns seriously, I am requesting the edit filter helper right again. But this time, I now intend to assist with writing filters using my basic knowledge of regular expressions.

    I have proposed additions to filter 936 (hist · log) (implemented by Suffusion of Yellow via email), and I have written and requested updates on 1292 (hist · log) (a global filter that tracks 1292's target was implemented on Meta as 344 (Meta admins only)) and 1308 (hist · log) (both filters are maintained by Ingenuity except the global filter, in which that global filter is maintained by SHB2000 on Meta), and 1313 (hist · log). Given these filters' sensitive detection strategies, I do not intend to discuss their details on public or outside of the edit filter mailing list.

    With respect to account security and nonpublic information, I use a strong password and have 2FA enabled on my main account, and I have signed the confidentiality agreement for nonpublic information (verify).

    Thank you for your consideration. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 03:48, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Discussion[edit]

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    Edit filter 53[edit]

    I'm just sending an FYI that one of my updates to this filter accidentally added a | at the very end of one of the string variables (it causes ALL edits to be flagged as a hit). It was caught and fixed two minutes later. Any false positive notifications regarding this filter can be closed as 'resolved'. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:35, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    And that, fellow users, is why EFMs are recommended to test their updates thoroughly before implementing said updates to any filter. There is the test interface in which admins, edit filter helpers and managers can access, or there's User:Suffusion of Yellow/batchtest-plus but you still need the same permissions to access that interface, just so that you can also use that script. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 16:55, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Perhaps if it weren't for my sudden curiosity about such edit filters, this could have gone unnoticed.102.159.221.21 (talk) 04:50, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Should global abuse filter helpers have access to the private filter mailing list?[edit]

    Just another thought today, but because global abuse filter helpers can view every single filter on every project (whether public or private) including the English Wikipedia, I was wondering if we could at least give them access to the edit filter mailing list on lists.wikimedia.org. They might share some other private (including LTA) filters from other wikis, including non-content projects such as Meta. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 17:58, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    If they request it, I see no problems, but as far as I know they usually don't. EggRoll97 (talk) 20:07, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia:Edit filter manager has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. EggRoll97 (talk) 19:03, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    EFH nomination for PharyngealImplosive7 (second nomination)[edit]

    PharyngealImplosive7 (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · rfar · spi · cci) (assign permissions)(acc · ap · ev · fm · mms · npr · pm · pc · rb · te)
    Link to my previous nomination (withdrawn).
    Pinging the admin who closed the last nomination: @0xDeadbeef.
    There is 1 day, 6 hours, 17 minutes and 47 seconds until the earliest closure. (refresh)

    Hello everyone. Back in February, I had my last self-nom for EFH. I was relatively new in general, and even newer to the edit filter space. As I've reflected on that failed nomination, I've tried to take in to account your feedback and I think that now I have a much more solid nomination.

    First of all, I have made about ~1100 edits to WP:EFFPR, and have tried to be as cautious as possible while clerking all reports, private and not. (as can be seen on xtools: [1]). I also have made numerous contributions to filters, such as helping to create the private filter 1313 (hist · log) (courtesy ping to @Codename Noreste to our conversation over email, before he sent the code we made together to the mailing list for further improvements), as well as the public filter 1298 (hist · log). I also helped create some regex for the private filter 1161 (hist · log) (to enforce WP:DADASAHEB). I've also made quite a few minor improvements to filters 54 (hist · log), 614 (hist · log), and a few others, but they all help catch unwanted edits that wouldn't have been otherwise. I believe that these examples can show that I have enough experience in regex that I can help author filters on this wiki.

    I know the responsibility of this user right and know the sensitivity of private filters. As a result, if I gain this permission, I will only discuss information about private filters on the mailing list. I also care a lot about security, and although I don't have 2FA enabled, I do have a strong password, so I think that is highly unlikely that my account will be compromised. I also have signed the access to nonpublic information agreement (verify).

    I thank everyone for their participation and feedback last time, as it helped me get a better sense for the gravity of this permission. Thank you in advance. – PharyngealImplosive7 (talk) 23:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Support[edit]

    Oppose[edit]

    Neutral[edit]

    Discussion[edit]

    1. Have you sent private filter regex updates to the mailing list or to an EFM?
    2. Do you intend to create a private filter that you can send to an EFM or to the mailing list?

    If so, please explain them in a non-beansy manner. Thank you. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 00:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    1. No. I have not besides for 1313. I only helped create thee other private filter I worked on, 1161. However, I do plan to do so in the future.
    2. Yes in fact! I have a few ideas kicking around in my head, but my most developed one is for BBB. – PharyngealImplosive7 (talk) 00:20, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There are already some filters trying to track what you said in number 2, and that's all what I'm allowed to say in public. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 16:53, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok thanks for letting me know. – PharyngealImplosive7 (talk) 17:04, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • If you're willing to share, is there any specific reason you don't have 2FA enabled? While it's not a requirement for EFH (and isn't a formal requirement outside of interface admins), I'm curious to know if there's a reason, or if it's just that you haven't necessarily turned it on (I'm aware it's not available unless a steward activates the global group). EggRoll97 (talk) 18:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      Yeah. I just haven't turned it on, because I haven't asked a steward yet to enable it. I don't really have a specific reason besides that I haven't done it yet, though if I get sesnitive perms like this one, I'll think about enabling it. – PharyngealImplosive7 (talk) 18:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Page protection[edit]

    I protected Wikipedia:Edit filter/False positives/Reports for 1 day 3 hours due to persistent vandalism from multiple accounts. Ohnoitsjamie and other administrators, please feel free to lift the protection earlier at your discretion. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 03:26, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Good protection, but it looks like these diffs (Special:Diff/1233248166, Special:Diff/1233232866, Special:Diff/1233232682, and others with more than 100,000 text bytes added) will need to be revision-deleted because of disruptive Zalgo text. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 03:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Done. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 04:40, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Set 365 To Warn?[edit]

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    365 unusual changes to featured or good content i think to warn 51.235.113.220 (talk) 07:09, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    What's the point of requesting changes to random filters and at the same time being disruptive elsewhere (in filter logs and edits)? This is the third time I've seen you do this (1st, 2nd), and while the second one resulted in a filter being set to disallow, your disruption does not seem worth it. – 2804:F1...13:E752 (talk) 08:23, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Oppose I see no good reason for this change. Nobody (talk) 08:58, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Oppose: no good reason provided. – PharyngealImplosive7 (talk) 14:18, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Strong oppose per everyone, no reason was provided. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 13:28, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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