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This article lacks paragraphs with criticism. The history shows that those have been written, but some users reverted ALL. I would view such action as being vandalism. 134.247.251.245 (talk) 12:33, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Any criticism must be reliably sourced. Removing unsourced claims is not vandalism. Lard Almighty (talk) 13:02, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removing ALL instances of criticism and leaving nothing, thus creating the illusion that there is no criticism IS vandalism. There IS criticism: https://onemileatatime.com/skytrax-credibility/ 134.247.251.245 (talk) 18:24, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Ridiculous Games Airlines Play To Win Skytrax Awards, And Others… (godsavethepoints.com) 134.247.251.245 (talk) 18:28, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://skift.com/2012/11/10/airline-review-site-gets-spanked-by-uk-advertising-industry/ 134.247.251.247 (talk) 18:37, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/skytrax-research-a12-196416.html 134.247.251.247 (talk) 18:38, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removing things that aren't reliably sourced is not vandalising. Feel free to read what constitutes a reliable source and add anything that has been covered in one. Lard Almighty (talk) 18:56, 22 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like you did not bother to even take a look at the many sources I provided. Is Skytrax itself a reliable source in your view? It is an official Skytrax statement that e.g. Lufthansa gained five star for a business class that was at that time three years into the future, which contradicts the offical Skytrax policy that a feature must be rolled out to 80% of the fleet. Does 0% match the 80% criterion?

Btw., other Wikipedias (other languages) do list a couple of critisims. 134.247.251.247 (talk) 13:40, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

None of those are Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Self-generated content like GSTP are generally not not RS. The criticisms need to be covered by reliable sources in order to be included. Here is a list: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources The Lufthansa example is Wikipedia:OR. Lard Almighty (talk) 14:02, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"None of those are Wikipedia:Reliable sources.". Wikipedia Germany obviously has a different view on this Skytrax https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skytrax#Einzelnachweise 6 ist a well renowned German newspaper (FAZ): Andreas Spaeth: Aus der Luft gegriffen? In: Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung. 17. Dezember 2017, S. 68.134.247.251.245 (talk) 14:25, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, IMHO, you could ask yourself some questions. E.g. why Zurich is listed as one of the best airports - but does NOT have a five star ranking? There are more (twice as many!) five star airports then best airports, and even in that light (20:10) Zurich is a 4 star... Sorry, I do not want to offend you, but to me you create an image of not being totally impartial here... 134.247.251.245 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 13:57, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Again any questions I might ask myself and answers I might give are [[WP:OR]]. Lard Almighty (talk) 14:03, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]