Talk:Eastern Ukraine campaign

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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 23:24, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did anything actually come of that? The article got redirected, and I can't find much about it online. I've been considering whether it should even be mentioned in this article. HappyWith (talk) 15:28, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've merged the Kharkiv material from Northeastern Ukraine campaign into this article. If I have time, I'll fix this myself later, but just to notify other editors: I copied basically all of the relevant material over in a bit of a rough and indiscriminate way, so there is a ton of trimming and copy editing that can be done to integrate the additions better into the article and remove unnecessary detail that can be covered in a child article. HappyWith (talk) 02:21, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Russia has captured all of bakhmut Napalm Guy (talk) 19:20, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 19:22, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In the status part of the infobox, it lists that Russia captured the cities of Bakhmut, Avdiivka, and Marinka. I understand the first two, but Marinka? Marinka is not a city but a suburb of Donetsk City. I propose removing Marinka from the list of cities taken by Russia in Eastern Ukraine. 2601:85:C100:46C0:C198:5F25:73F0:DB5D (talk) 02:22, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is officially a city, see list of cities in Ukraine. Alexis Coutinho (talk) 22:43, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

None of the sources in the "Russian breakthroughs and capture of Avdiivka (January 2024–present)" section actually refer to the Russian actions as a "breakthrough". IMHO using "breakthrough" here constitutes WP:SYNTH at the very least, if not full on WP:PUFFERY and should be replaced with more neutral language such as "push" or "confrontation". pinging @RopeTricks Tdmurlock (talk) 01:00, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's an exaggeration. "Breakthrough" is descriptive language and very logical in that context. Why do you think the Ukrainians had to retreat in a hurry from Avdiivka, leaving wounded behind? Because the "push"/"confrontation" you're advocating for was fast, hence the chaos. A fast push is a breakthrough. This isn't stretching the imagination nor synthesis gymnastics. It isn't hard to find sources using "breakthrough": [1][2][3]. One could constrain the breakthrough though to be localized to Avdiivka and not necessarily to other settlements (a major frontline breakthrough). Alexis Coutinho (talk) 15:36, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hold up. I think you are referring to using "breakthroughs" outside Avdiivka? If so, then I would agree. There were pushes/advances on other parts of the front, only Avdiivka was fast and relatively chaotic. Alexis Coutinho (talk) 15:38, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What happened in Avdiivka was by all intents and purposes a Russian breakthrough, anyone that monitors the war daily and understands what the term means militarily, should comprehend that. No "puffery" and no synth necessary. As for non-Avdiivka advances, I used the term for consistency purpose because of the Eastern Ukraine campaign#Russian breakthroughs (December 2022–March 2023) also used the term "breakthroughs" and no one had an issue with that one a year ago. I am now convinced by Alexis that using "breakthroughs" this early may be jumping the gun, so I'll neutralize the text with their point in mind. RopeTricks (talk) 16:43, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Let me also add that the Avdiivka breakthrough seems to not be only limited to the city, i.e. it still continues. This is because Russia appears to be in a "recapture spree" there as evidenced in Territorial control during the Russo-Ukrainian War#2024. Alexis Coutinho (talk) 15:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Russia launches a new offensive in the Kharkiv Oblast 2409:4063:4212:31A6:0:0:C7A:A8AD (talk) 11:08, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]